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Lol, I dont think your taxes would BB Putting the obvious dislike of the club aside I really think this is the best way any club can be run. Everyone knows that Barcelona is the club that is run this way, but by Spains socialist tradition, so are other Spanish and German clubs. The very word 'club' suggests a shared ownership and participation, and although we're lucky to have a debt free single owner, most other clubs are run by an owner or a couple of blokes, or a tribe of dodgy brothers in Man Uniteds case, solely to make profit for them alone. Not only that, but they've borrowed the money in the first place, so for every £40 replica shirt or £50 admission £10-£15 of that is paying off their overdraft.

From BBC News Liverpool supporters are to launch an ambitious plan to buy the football club from its current American owners. US tycoons George Gillett and Tom Hicks recently finalised a £350m refinancing of the club which they bought in 2007. But the Share Liverpool FC Group is to reveal plans for a buy-out of the club by 100,000 Reds fans around the world. The model proposed will be a Barcelona style, "member-share" scheme, aimed at raising £500m to purchase the club from its US owners and build a new stadium. 606: DEBATE Can the fans succeed in their bid to take over the club? As well as UK-based fans, a website will be launched to attract interest from Liverpool's supporter base around the world, particularly in East Asia. Club refinancing Those behind the move are football business lecturer and Liverpool fan Rogan Taylor, former director of communications at the Premier League Phil French, and lawyer Kevin Jacquiss - an expert in launching co-operatives. "The time is right to offer a different solution to the rising concerns that football fans have about the patterns of ownership developing at our major football clubs," said Taylor, who is director of the Football Industry Group at the University of Liverpool. He said the "time is right" for such an initiative in the UK. Full details of how the fans' group hopes to buy the club will be revealed later on Thursday, although the initial figures seem to suggest an investment per supporter of £5,000 each. Thousands of Liverpool fans have already demonstrated their dissatisfaction with the current state of affairs Rogan Taylor, Share Liverpool FC Group Many Liverpool supporters have been unhappy at the recent uncertainty surrounding the refinancing of the club. After much delay, and reports that either one or both of the owners was willing to sell a stake to Dubai's DIC, a refinancing deal was signed last week with the Royal Bank of Scotland and US bank Wachovia. Hicks confirmed to the BBC last week that of the £350m refinancing package, £105m of that will be debt tied to the club. Of that total, £45m will be used for future player transfers and to meet the club's working capital needs, and the remaining £60m is thought to be free for start-up money for a new Liverpool stadium. However, some supporters are unhappy about debt being placed on to the club, and there is also a perception that the owners' support for manager Rafa Benitez has not been as strong as it might. Debt burden "Thousands of Liverpool fans have already demonstrated their dissatisfaction with the current state of affairs," said Taylor. "Large amounts of debt often devolves onto clubs newly purchased, but the fans know that in the end, it will be they themselves who will have to pay it off through increased ticket prices and other schemes. All looked rosy when the US duo took over in early 2007 "In such a case, why not simply buy the club yourselves?" He said that many fans were unaware that there were other ways of financing and taking ownership of big clubs. Taylor said that in Germany and Spain most top-level football clubs were not for sale as they were owned by many thousands of "member fans". "The Champions League has been won on six occasions in the last 15 years by clubs owned and run in such a way," he said. Barcelona, which won the Champions League in 2006, is owned by its 100,000 fan-members. Stadium plan Earlier this month a survey carried out by the Liverpool Supporters' network showed that 76% of 2,000 fans questioned said they would "seriously consider reducing their financial commitment to the club" if the current owners stayed in charge. When asked to choose between the owners and the manager as to who had the best interest of the club at heart, 99% backed Benitez. However, Hicks and Gillett have insisted that they are fully behind Benitez. They also say the club plans to build the 71,000-seat venue close to Anfield in Stanley Park in time for the 2011-12 season.

Hi Cracker. Are you a Spuds fan, or yid as they love to be called, as .Biru suggested ? Introduce yourself to everyone in the New Members forum bit. As far as Grant is concerned - he got the job because hes a Jewish mate of Abramovich, and CM is right Jews do have a knack of positioning themselves where all the dosh is. It may be clever on their part, but if you start calling that anti semitic, it seems as though 'the lady doth protest too much'. As Martin Samuel in The Times said - 'Beyond ''anti -semitism'', there is thinking that your manager is a muppet and got the job only because the owner is his mate. Now, as Chelsea fans will know, this stance is something entirely different. Nobody is denying that there has been some dodgy stuff on various internet sites since Avram Grant got José Mourinho’s job, but there is always dodgy stuff on internet sites. That is the nature of the beast. Half the world is trapped in a strength-sapping porn cycle and much of the remainder is furiously composing the 21st-century equivalent of green ink letters and calling it a blog. The biggest mistake that Chelsea’s executives could make would be to confuse the foam-lipped ranting of anonymous madmen with the genuine disquiet of those who have soldiered on through several decades of turmoil at Stamford Bridge and fear that defeat will be snatched from the jaws of victory because the owner would rather his wisdom go unchallenged in the dressing-room.'

Mutu at a party

Well we might give them a thumping, though history shows otherwise. -not beaten Reading in a home tie since 1929. That said, they've been apalling on the road of late, and a win is definitely favourite.

Bender

...on live TV. If Ashley did that I suppose it would be ok. ''Stern Warning'' Grrrrrr.

He certainly shone yesterday, and the Africans do play with a lot of pride, although the pace of the ACN games can be a lot slower than the Prem.

At the risk of flogging a dead horse, I dont believe Grant has equalled anything that Mourinho has done. There have been at least two managers that have managed our team at work that have at best been ornamnetal, and at worst been a hindrance. Either way they needn't have been there. They inherited an experienced team who knew what they were doing, and in essence became number crunchers. Myself and colleagues have actually helped them do their job, and that is WITHOUT two experienced assistant managers helping them. The main thing is that Chelsea FC are doing well. I think Grant would be clueless, just from what his previous colleagues have said, and from his press talks and bodylanguage, trying to manage anything other than a newspaper stall.

I'm really confident that there is a fantastic team spirit at the moment. All players seem genuinely privileged to be playing for CFC. Either would be great to come back ASAP, but we can manage.

There is definitely a glut of Chelsea players being attacked in the media at the moment. I'm sure you could go and find many of the Premierships African folks, from Arsenal etc who also live in poverty. Still, come on Michael buy him a fucking fridge for fucks sake.

Well the yid phisio will be on overtime now, he has a Robbenesque way of getting injured.

Though theres probably a special FA rule that says Mikel wont be able to play till he waits another three games.

Agree with above -is there any danger of this site going down ? Do we still need to click on the ads now and again ? I do when I remember.

Ivory Coast winning 1-0 atm, however should Mali make a comeback, and Nigeria go out, Chelsea FC have a private jet on standby to bring Obi back. The good news is that his suspension should have expired (3 games ) now.

Hes but a young spring chicken. 'Grant equals Mourinhos record' brilliant. I reckon one of the teletubbies could have done a better job taking over from Mourinho.

Lol thought exactly the same but didnt want to say Enjoyment and having the skin sheared off dont go together. Long term and short term the futures bright for CFC -constant 'top four' member, but lets hope it doesnt get too sanitised, and can we have our Royal Blue back ??

Exactly my thoughts. They might even have a punch up as well.... He should give away a few penalties as well. Ideal spuds signing.

Yeah the Barca 4-2 game is up there and this one http://www.mediastorehouse.com/pictures_64...a35615c9bb80cd9

Which bit ?

''Stand by Your man....''

There was research into Bushs' election 'wins', and there is clear evidence to prove they were rigged. Blacks were prevented from voting because they didn't have the 'right papers' 98% of Blacks vote Democrat. Completely agree about the miners policing the cops demo. My mate scouse John was saying the exact same. They were Thatchers tools in decimating communities. Also the cops have above inflation pay rises for the past 12 years, whereas nurses, firemen, teachers etc and other Public sector workers have not. They have the best pension in the country, and retire early after fitting up a few hundred people.

Lol just read the Sunday Mirror story as well. Some other girl saying that he paid her to shut up after shagging her. She said he had a small dick etc, and puked halfway through. Tweedy supposed to be leaving him now. If you' re young and rich probably best to stay single and put it where you want for a few years. The worst thing for Chelsea fans is how it may affect him on the pitch, though he showed he's the skin of a rhino when taunted by away fans.

Well his Israeli counterparts have said he knows nothing about football and everything about positioning himself amongst the wealthy and powerful to increase his bank balance. He did this with Gaydemark , and then sidled up to Abramovich when in Israel. OK you say its not Clarke and Ten cates because I ''dont see training sessions every day''. No but I've read the reports. ''Players know more what he doesnt do than what he does'' Conversely what evidence do you have he's doing a good job? Do you see the training sessions ? Do you fuck. Ok the managers I've seen deserve some respect -Sexton, Neal, Hoddle, Bobby Cambell, Gullitt, Shellito, Blanchflower, Bobby Gould, , Vialli, Ranieri, Mourinho even fucking Porterfield, Geoff Hurst and Rix. This is the first cunt that deserves zero. You're what 18 ? From your blind adoration of the charlatan, it would be easy to label yourself as laughable, and pathetic as well. But I wont. Anyone can buy a McDonalds franchise for £200 000+ and make a profit, yet know fuck all about manageing it. You have managers and staff to do that. Grant is a shyster. The main thing is that Chelsea FC are doing well, we have two lynch pins with a Toad croaking in the middle, a void, which could be filled with someone who knows what they're doing. But it's Romans money and he can squander it on a fraud if he wants.

Ballack would be good for this one I'm sure he will -Chris Sutton anyone ? Yeah Wigan havent beaten us yet since in the top flight so the omens are good. Right off for a few jars, half day. Later. CAREFREE!