Absolutely vital that we avoid defeat here. Must aim to gain at least 4 points from the two matches against Shakhtar. If we do that, then we are likely to be on level points(8) with Juventus after Matchday 4 as one would assume them to beat Nordsjaelland home and away to get that 6 points. And just to add, Shakhtar are unbeaten in their last 33 matches(W31 D2) in all competitions. Last time they lost was back in November, where Porto won 2-0 in Ukraine and ultimately knocked Shakhtar out of the Champions League last season.