OneMoSalah

You never answered any of the questions though. Good managers develop players and the team. For example, and this is just ones off top of my head recently and over past seasons: Rashford with EtH, Bernardo Silva with Pep, Son with Conte, Odegaard with Arteta…. Etc etc. Who has GP developed or improved? A man whos renowned for developing players? Name me one from his spell here? May be short but there hasn’t been anyone who has really set the world alight or even improved considerably. The only one who I think could of actually been considered would of been Kepa. And that says it all considering the last 2 games. And when was the last time we comfortably beat a good team under him? Probably was the AC Milan games… in October…. months ago.

The guys played in Portugal, Spain and all over internationally, he knows its a red card as soon as he makes the challenge late. Even Stevie Wonder would of seen that as a red card. I mean look how high he was and the force. Unlucky? I am beginning to worry for some of you.

A lot of excuse’s there mate. Lets be frank. If you insist on a lot of that then heres another way to look at it. Tell me one player who has improved considerably under Potter? His reputation is specifically meant to be built around developing players and coaching teams. Who has come on and is playing good consistently he’s came in? Or is it not his fault and all 25 of our squad are inconsistent? A big bulk of this squad won the CL, CWC & Super Cup in the last 2 years so cut the shit squad nonsense. Lacking in areas, yes, but hardly shit. Not as good as City & Liverpool maybe but definitely as good as United, Spurs, Arsenals squad. And then, barring the AC Milan games, who were the last half decent team we dispatched comfortably? You’ll be scratching your head for a while tryna answer those mate because I think we’ve lost or drawn to most top teams we’ve played under him so far. Also, the 2 AC Milan games were in October for fuck sake. Would be may as well saying about us beating Fulham 3-0 under Rafa in 2013. It would be about as relevant as using those 2 games which were Potter’s 3rd & 4th matches in charge IIRC - and most new managers get that first couple wins from the new manager bounce regardless - so it is absolutely stupid to use that as a barometer because it was that long ago and things started going downhill pretty fucking quickly after we played Brentford 2 weeks later. But yeah 2 games v AC Milan wow he’s done a fantastic job…..

So hypothetically, lets just say keep GP to the end of the season meaning that it will all but confirm we have no chance of salvaging the second half of season? All but sealing our fate of finishing outside the top 6 and having no European football? Yeah great how we gonna make any progress next year with no CL or European football? I don’t think people understand, if we finish outside the top 8, we aren’t signing any top players in the summer. Nada. Zilch. Because they will all go somewhere else for the CL/to compete for trophies. Its like the first half of the AVB season all again. But worse.

Some nice touches in the game but an absolute brainfart moment. I mean honestly, what was he thinking? I get trying to win the ball back but jesus christ, you don’t need to be that clever to know that you cannot tackle like that in any European league. Now he has 3 PL games to sit out and we’re back to square 1.

100% It doesnt matter what walk of life your from or sport or business etc your in, leaders are developed and if the guy at the top of the food chain doesn’t inspire/lead well then its ultimately not going to work. Is it any wonder why guys like Azpi, Jorginho, Kante etc all of a sudden developed huge leadership qualities under Conte and Tuchel? No, its not, because both managers had huge personalities and were leaders themselves. They clearly had an influence. I don’t see Potter having a positive influence on anybody. The football under Tuchel wasn't quite as bad compared to this. It wasn’t great, but it wasn’t necessarily this bad. For me, its only because Potter played good football at Brighton that it always seems to be used as the stick to beat TT’s difficult spell here with.

Simeone leaving Atletico in the summer apparently - whats the bet we get him.

Tbf we all knew there was always a risk. The will he wont he side of can he transmit his work at Brighton to this level of club, with the pressure and demands, whilst also following on from a world class manager who won the CL, Super Cup and CWC and made countless other cup finals. It is so clear now he can’t. Blatantly obvious. Boehly is a smart man apparently but if he keeps letting this go on, the damage will continue. Also wait and see now he will go and bankroll us the opportunity to throw another 50-100m on 1 or 2 players as a quick fix after tonight when the problem is as much the manager as it is personnel.

Might as well start speculating now for a bit, I don’t think it’ll be too long if results keep going this way. Who next then? Poch? Zidane? Bielsa? Someone else?

Nah the biggest problem is the manager. Clearly. I mean it has to be no? There is no way this standards would stand under any other competent manager with experience and know how at a big club. We struggled with Tuchel start of season and last season but was it ever this bad? Like the run we’ve been on (granted we had more shots tonight and their GK was busy) has anybody seen anything and thought this is getting better? Or we’re making progress? I haven’t seen anything from the last few months or so to think that his appointment is going to lead us somewhere positive.

Read this sentence back. Particularly the first word. Klopp. Lets be honest, Potter will never be on that level. Not in a million years. So lets end this Pep and Klopp needed time/comparisons/whatever bullshit. I am still speechless Potter even tried to say that himself. Klopp and Pep have proven track records at big clubs, they can get away with that. Because people know what to expect from them and their teams. This was the same nonsense that was spouted when Frank was here - those 2 will never ever ever be on JK & PG’s level as managers and will never achieve what they done so get that shite out of your head. There is no amount of time in the world where Potter becomes good in this job for this club. Barring 3 or 4 games after his appointment, we have nosedived. Say what you want but questions have to start with the management. The players weren't this bad with Tuchel so what does that tell you?

Has to go. Or we end up in between 10th-15th end of the season. Simple as that. How the fuck can he have this squad playing so shite? Its not necessarily as if its a bad squad.

Yeah Potter needs to go. Clearly. This Chelsea side is worse than we were under AVB. And with a much better squad. And you can blame the players and injuries and whatever but there has been NO improvement in anybody under GP. Everybody has collectively and individually regressed/struggled. His time has to be up if we are to salvage anything from this season. Which is looking more and more unlikely. Every passing week it is beginning to become more and more obvious that Todd Boehly is a fucking clown.

Probably. His last few years are going to wind up being mediocre.

He wouldn't even get a game for Arsenal. Hes past it. I mean the likes of Martinelli, Saka and Smith Rowe who can even play out wide, are better players. He only has himself to blame for how his careers gone, he had the chance to be a genuine world class player ie in the top 3 or 5 players for a prolonged period of time but he never truly looked after himself well or pushed himself to that next level.

What sort of bullshit is this 😂 They didn't raise their game for us, we were just absolutely pathetic, if thats City raising their game then they wouldn’t have won what theyve won under Pep 😂. Be interesting to see how the Manchester Derby is but I reckon they’ll find another gear and beat United, who are in goos form, City always seem to be able to.

Everton owner put an open letter out to the fans saying he’s backing Frank. Ah well hope they are looking forward to another relegation battle. Maybe if Potter is out a job in the summer Everton can appoint him? More his level.

Jesus christ I hope not. Also talks Barca want Auba back but only if its on a free and he takes a reduced salary. Boehly is fucking hopeless if he lets this happen. He will get laughed out of the country at this rate, clown.

Not sure. Seen something about the already registered things too so maybe more that.

Nothings unjinxable. But yeah who knows

I don’t know. I would of thought if he didn't have some sort of option/clause, we wouldn’t of been able to buy him due to the transfer ban. Could be wrong but don’t see how we managed to get him otherwise.

Yet the manager needs time. It is concerning to look at statistically.

Pretty sure hes not even done a medical yet. Bit premature opening a thread no?

We've had our pants pulled down if I am honest. Despite the fact he could be a good signing. If he does well and we get up the table wont mind as much but wouldn't think he will be coming here next season. Full wages for 6 months which are 250k per week, a €11m loan fee and no option to buy. Plus he’s renewed his contract there to protect Atletico’s investment in him there also. Not even a mention of an option like the Kovacic loan either. Some places even speculating now that they aren’t sure Potter specifically wanted him either. Apparently consulted but thats as far as it goes as they see him as “head coach” more than the manager. Although his job title is head coach, going on this info, the signings from now I would imagine will be targets chosen more by a recruitment team. Similar to how Salzburg and Leipzig do it.

Similarly I think Todd Boehly has proven that the way he operates also “makes peoples eyes water”. I don’t think either are blameless for the whole situation that occurred but currently one of them looks incredibly incredibly stupid and the other not so much. I’ll let yous figure out who's who. In fact Tuchel’s decision to be a bit less collaborative re transfers etc and more wanting to focus on the coaching side of things was probably justified in all honesty.