OneMoSalah

So they’ve offered Kante a 2 years extension with option for further year which he’s rejected.. months after giving Koulibaly - same age - a 4 year deal. Kante may of struggled with injuries in the past calendar year but he’s still world class. Him resigning needs to be addressed. Urgently.

That quote is alarming re the board/owners/those at the helm’s ideas about managers getting chances at elite clubs after “failing” at other clubs. I mean do these owners really have any idea about football? Not just elsewhere, specifically here. Have they not done any research into the hire and culture here from the past regime? And how elite level managers have gone and done after being sacked here for instance? I cannot think of many of the supposed elite level managers who after having been sacked, failed or left here in whatever circumstances, that haven’t gone on and achieved something significant elsewhere. I mean Mourinho, Ancelotti, Benitez, Mourinho again, Conte and Sarri all won trophies elsewhere and got big jobs after here. I really am getting more and more worried about Boehly and Clearlake with the amount of sheer nonsense thats come to light in the last few days. Really am. It seems as if they’ve came from Mars and are alien to almost everything that seems to be the norm in football.

I am sorry but what? 🤣 The situations aren’t even removedly close. Or comparable because the levels are different.

After a good start initially when he came in, I am now a bit more dubious and also curious to see how things go from here on, seemed to be a lot of noise about him in the window and now after sacking a manager, lots of talk of situations which you wouldn’t necessarily want to see at an elite level football clubhouse . First and foremost if you don't want someone as manager don’t let them spend 270m and sack them 7 games after full pre season. For me that is amateurish. If he wanted Graham Potter before the season started, cut the cord, make your intentions clear… don’t go on talking nonsense about giving another manager a new deal, wanting him central to the club etc. Absolutely amateurish. Secondly the Ronaldo situation as mentioned above also by another member. Let the football people make the football decisions. Or appoint some competent football people first. Ronaldo would of purely been a statement signing and a commercial one, as he clearly like Lukaku wasn’t going to fit TT’s team. No wonder pundits such as Neville and Souness weren’t waiting about to take pot shots at him but also rightfully so in some regards. Thirdly his refusal to follow Tuchel’s idea to meet certain players who were targets and get a feel for their character, personality and figure out how they may fit in the group as well as in the team and just purely trusting performance data. I think after the Lukaku debacle, their character and how their personality fits into the group should be hugely considered. Fourthly scrapping a whole football infrastructure without having any real key components in place or at least some personnel to try and smooth it over, this has also contributed to the Tuchel situation and furthermore whilst it may not affect Graham Potter immediately, may when things are in place. Could always be a clash of personalities, opinions etc. this guys need to all be on the same page for us to be successful. I am still hopeful after this whole summer and the Tuchel sacking that Boehly’s intentions are obviously to challenge and improve the club on all levels so that it can be highly successful but I am a bit more sceptical now. I might end up eating humble pie eventually but I just feel the guy was full of shit on all the messages and praises on Tuchel so who’s to say he wont be with Potter? Or anything else that he made out to be his intentions? Anyway onwards and upwards.

His Brighton teams haven’t necessarily been big scorers during his time there, that is a big concern for me. Or been efficient at keeping clean sheets either. If he can have a similar effect to what TT did when he first came in though with the structure of the team improving and the likes of xG, chances created, key passes etc going up then its a good start but I still think that barring Sterling and Aubamayang, our attackers are still too inconsistent in this aspect. I get he is going to be working with a supposed higher quality of player but these things are telling. Also the likes of United, Arsenal and Spurs are much better now be it due to certain signings or managerial appointments so the room for error with this appointment in both the short and long term is very slim because once you start slipping down that table, it is a very slippery slope. For me, Boehly is either going to look very good or very foolish by the end of this season because sacking an elite manager and going for someone who, whilst he is promising as a coach, has no experience at an elite level, it is risky. TB will undoubtedly have had to give GP certain assurances (no way he takes this position in the same way the likes of a Tuchel, Conte, Mourinho or even a Pochettino may have due to their reputation and knowledge that they will likely get a big club again regardless because of what they’ve achieved in the game already) and time will be one of those. It remains to be seen if TB isn’t full of shit - he obviously was when he was pumping out the message that Tuchel was his man, the man who would be central to how the club would be under their ownership, how it was his say only on transfers etc although turns out he wasn’t convinced entirely since last season, was annoyed TT basically publicly made it clear he didn’t want CR7 and that a majority of the signings were club led and not coach led … - if he is going to let GP come in and try change the ethos of the club, the footballing style etc, it will take time so he has to let him get some. And has to take a step back from picking the targets.

Oh god 😂 Now thats Potter basically confirmed, lets hope he can get going quickly. Although with some of these players, its going to be a process to extract something out of them as a lot are either not bothered, very very out of form or some of them nowhere near it (RLC, Ziyech, Pulisic are 3 who will undoubtedly get another shot due tot the new manager appointment and the usual “I can get more from him” thinking despite the 3 of them being nowhere near the level required here). (Side note - if Pulisic is still here by the start of the next season then it will be for one of two reasons, 1 highly probable and 1 highly unrealistic. Highly probable being his US nationality for marketing potential which aligns with new ownerships ambition to improve and grow the marketability of the club and then, the highly unrealistic one being he’s somehow able to perform to a high standard for more than 3 games in a 18 month period and doesn’t get injured most of the time he participates in a game or training… which we know isn’t happening). GP has a lot to adapt to in terms of the lack of footballing infrastructure compared to what Brighton had in place, bigger ambitions, bigger player egos to manage and ultimately by the looks of it, a much more ruthless owner who has just shown he isn’t afraid to pull the plug on things despite the fact it is known that he doesn’t have a lot of very knowledgeable football people in place compared to other elite level clubs. It’ll certainly be interesting….

Im sorry but that is one of the most moronic things I’ve ever heard. To use an excuse such as the players aren’t believing in what their doing for a lack of basic effort and showing a bit of fight or passion for the shirt is beyond me.

Pity its not at the Bridge, be interesting to see what the atmosphere would of been like. More so if the owner was present.

If the players buy in and give their all. That shouldn’t ever be an if but thats the problem here. We have guys in the squad who have CL winners medals, for some of them perhaps undeservedly based on their careers here and what they’ve done in the game and what they will have achieved when their careers finish, who will inevitably sour on another manager if they don’t play or get tough with them or sulk because they don’t want to be here. So I’ll put my neck out and say it, Graham Potter when he’s appointed will last a maximum of 12-18 months, get sacked when we hit a bad run or when the owner wakes up on the wrong side of the bed/has another bright idea and it will be the same again. If Boehly didn’t want to keep Tuchel he should of just said to him at the end of the season, told him he wanted his own man, brought in a manager who fit his new direction and given them a full pre season and the signings they wanted. Then they’ve got a clean slate, a man they wanted In place and they can build their infrastructure up and around them as well as giving the new guy some time to actually put things in place. In terms of his first big big decision as new owner, the signs do not look good and thats without mentioning he’s cleared out a whole footballing infrastructure, hasn’t replaced it and now has sacked a manager he didn’t want to keep because he was too arrogant or stupid or whatever to get rid of him in the first place, who he had initially said he wanted to give him more job security and responsibility in terms of recruitment etc as well as input on how the clubs infrastructure should be. Confusing, isnt it?

All well and good but not playing well and not trying are two different things. Totally different. I didn’t see a team that wanted to fight to win last night, they basically rolled over and accepted that the game was done when the game got scrappy and that is something that has been labelled at this team before under Sarri, Frank and now Tuchel. Zagreb didn’t win because they outplayed us completely as we did create chances in the second half, they won because they actually tried, they ran, they won tackles, made interceptions etc you know the basics that this team has been criticised for not doing too well periodically. It is clear players have downed tools for whatever reason. Completely clear. If you don’t believe me, go and watch Hakim Ziyech’s highlight reel back. The guys performance was absolutely piss poor and exactly what people claiming that certain players have downed tools are going on about. He couldn’t of cared less. Mason, Kai, Kova are a few others who again were anonymous and piss poor from every aspect of the game. Would of seen more effort and fight if we put the u23s out v Dinamo last night.

Luis Enrique 🤣 ffs he had one class season at Barcelona when he won a treble with the worlds best front line. Hes done fuck all else at club level. £20m compensation for Potter apparently. “Throwing money at it” narrative will continue. Also Sky now running that Boehly and co wanted rid of Tuchel for a while. And want Potter to change ethos, coach players and cosch the new players. I mean I know its only a report but what the fuck did Boelhy and co expect TT to do, none of that? I mean it really is laughable isnt it… biggest circus in town.

I mean if we don’t get someone in soon enough for the weekend maybe even if just to be there and not be involved with the match, I think it leaves him open to even more criticism from outside. And boy, he will get some for todays decision for sure.

I honestly think they’ll beat us if we perform like we did last night. I dont even think there will be a bounce because TT’s gone. Determination and intensity is two things we’ve lacked for weeks, why would it change now? Throw in the individual mistakes we’ve made every week since the season started, its not going to be great is it?

It is anything but. Either that or the new owner has been full of shit on his stance about Tuchel and wanting long term success with him since day 1 and has always had his own ideas about appointing someone else but didn’t do it for whatever reason (find that hard to believe considering he changed a lot of big pieces in the previous regimes operation without hesitation). I mean you don’t give your manager all the extra responsibility even if he didn’t want it, the power, everything they had given him and throw it away after 6 or 7 games into a season on a whim if you are a competent operator. You just don’t. It is knee jerk. Any other club and you’d agree. Also does anyone really think this group of largely inconsistent or underperforming players is going to be tenfold better with a new manager? We aren’t talking about a Chelsea team with players the calibre of a Hazard, a Fabregas, a Costa, a Terry, a Lampard, a Drogba etc. Theres a handful of good players and good pros but largely inconsistency has been this groups biggest problem since Frank came in. I mean who does the next manager come in and lean on? Our best and consistent player so far has been our right wing back. Whoever comes in next has a lot of work on their hands, as did Tuchel, because this group is struggling horrifically.

After last nights performances I hope he is demoted to the u23s. That is his level. Pathetic performances and attitude since he came in. He will undoubtedly be one of the players who’s relationship with TT soured too but not surprised, based on his reputation with his international manager, its no surprise. Primadonna.

This is a colossal mistake. Absolutely colossal. After so much talk of building long term with and having absolute faith in Tuchel, Todd Boehly’s basically shat the bed and underperforming mediocre and inconsistent players have basically sealed the fate of another manager. Potter, Poch, Zidane or Rodger Schmit? Are the club for real 😂 Perhaps Potters up and coming yes but if anyone thinks he is going to come in and do a good job here straight away then they are dreaming. The expectations at Brighton and here are so different. Plus hes been allowed to shape his squad over the last 3 seasons. He clearly wont get that time here if this is anything to go on. Todd Boehly again will be painted negatively in the press, more so after the whole “buying every player” narrative this summer but deservedly so this time because this is clearly the decision of a man who has no real footballing advisors around him. This is a knee jerk move. Not even Roman would of pulled the trigger this early into a season.

Definitely a lot of blame on the players. Maybe just for making poor mistakes/decisions/effort more than anything. I mean we have played a 352, a 343, a 4222 this season and thats after people kept saying change to 4atb or 3atb. Its clear that it isn’t a formation issue, its the personnel in it. If theres something going on behind the scenes, I don’t know, but poor performances and body language is worrying. TT isn’t a manager to mince his words either in public so whether or not the pre season comments after the Arsenal game, the soft team comments, the need for quality players comments etc haven’t gone down well either (but it’s not like he’s wrong in most instances) but whatever’s going on, I don’t see a team fighting for each other, to turn their fortunes around or for their manager who is maybe under pressure.

Real acid test for Ange Postecoglu and his style/philosophy but so far so good for Celtic, in fact unlucky not to be ahead. Playing some brave but great stuff. And there is Madrid, doing what they do best, as they did last season against us, PSG and Liverpool. 1-0.

Going to get a lot of stick but ultimately the expectations on this guy with a largely inconsistent group of players and 9 new signings, I don’t think we will pull the trigger any time soon. Needs to be change though, real soon, in terms of performance levels.

Mental he has subbed on Ziyech and hasn’t subbed him off already. He is utter shite.

You just said “your not blaming Fofana for the goal per se” now hes not entirely blameless, make your mind up 😂 Maybe he isnt fit (again I would imagine hes either as close to or basically fully fit) but I would hope that his fitness wouldn’t be to such a poor extent that it’s affecting how he’s playing.

How can you blame KK for losing out on a header but not blame Fofana for being unaware of where his opposite numbers positioned and not dropping off when he’s the last player in the backline? That is basics… If he was positioned better he would of controlled the whole situation because he controls the space behind him better.

Oh come on…. Even if he’s not fully fit, their goal didn’t happen purely because he’s not fit or he’s lost a step. Its so basic, it happened because he’s not aware who’s around him and doesn’t drop off 1 or 2 yards like any ordinary CB would do there, never mind a supposed top top one who can be the best in the world in a few years. And before that KK loses an aerial duel which a certain fat spanish waiter did say to the media that aerial duels and concentration wasn’t necessarily a huge strength of his. Hopefully its just that both are playing in a struggling team and everyone’s making mistakes as opposed to being glaring weaknesses in their game to fail to do the basics in those situations. Also Kova just played that pass one sec too late 🙁 would of been the start we needed

Age old saying though, you couldn’t hang your hat on Havertz. For all the talent he supposedly has, what does he bring? Sterling and Aubamayang need time to gel but I feel sorry for both. Leaving City and Barca to play in this.

Feel sorry for Sterling. Really do. Leaving City to play in this attack, jesus christ, poor guy. Also whilst KK getting stick for goal, Fofana has to do much better too…. Surely? I mean he must see the man behind him and anticipate the knock on? I mean KK 100% has to go for that header but Fofana’s ball watching and doesn’t anticipate KK losing the header to drop off….. 2 CBs who cost £100m got schooled by failing to do the basics.