OneMoSalah

Im sorry but that is one of the most moronic things I’ve ever heard. To use an excuse such as the players aren’t believing in what their doing for a lack of basic effort and showing a bit of fight or passion for the shirt is beyond me.

Pity its not at the Bridge, be interesting to see what the atmosphere would of been like. More so if the owner was present.

If the players buy in and give their all. That shouldn’t ever be an if but thats the problem here. We have guys in the squad who have CL winners medals, for some of them perhaps undeservedly based on their careers here and what they’ve done in the game and what they will have achieved when their careers finish, who will inevitably sour on another manager if they don’t play or get tough with them or sulk because they don’t want to be here. So I’ll put my neck out and say it, Graham Potter when he’s appointed will last a maximum of 12-18 months, get sacked when we hit a bad run or when the owner wakes up on the wrong side of the bed/has another bright idea and it will be the same again. If Boehly didn’t want to keep Tuchel he should of just said to him at the end of the season, told him he wanted his own man, brought in a manager who fit his new direction and given them a full pre season and the signings they wanted. Then they’ve got a clean slate, a man they wanted In place and they can build their infrastructure up and around them as well as giving the new guy some time to actually put things in place. In terms of his first big big decision as new owner, the signs do not look good and thats without mentioning he’s cleared out a whole footballing infrastructure, hasn’t replaced it and now has sacked a manager he didn’t want to keep because he was too arrogant or stupid or whatever to get rid of him in the first place, who he had initially said he wanted to give him more job security and responsibility in terms of recruitment etc as well as input on how the clubs infrastructure should be. Confusing, isnt it?

All well and good but not playing well and not trying are two different things. Totally different. I didn’t see a team that wanted to fight to win last night, they basically rolled over and accepted that the game was done when the game got scrappy and that is something that has been labelled at this team before under Sarri, Frank and now Tuchel. Zagreb didn’t win because they outplayed us completely as we did create chances in the second half, they won because they actually tried, they ran, they won tackles, made interceptions etc you know the basics that this team has been criticised for not doing too well periodically. It is clear players have downed tools for whatever reason. Completely clear. If you don’t believe me, go and watch Hakim Ziyech’s highlight reel back. The guys performance was absolutely piss poor and exactly what people claiming that certain players have downed tools are going on about. He couldn’t of cared less. Mason, Kai, Kova are a few others who again were anonymous and piss poor from every aspect of the game. Would of seen more effort and fight if we put the u23s out v Dinamo last night.

Luis Enrique 🤣 ffs he had one class season at Barcelona when he won a treble with the worlds best front line. Hes done fuck all else at club level. £20m compensation for Potter apparently. “Throwing money at it” narrative will continue. Also Sky now running that Boehly and co wanted rid of Tuchel for a while. And want Potter to change ethos, coach players and cosch the new players. I mean I know its only a report but what the fuck did Boelhy and co expect TT to do, none of that? I mean it really is laughable isnt it… biggest circus in town.

I mean if we don’t get someone in soon enough for the weekend maybe even if just to be there and not be involved with the match, I think it leaves him open to even more criticism from outside. And boy, he will get some for todays decision for sure.

I honestly think they’ll beat us if we perform like we did last night. I dont even think there will be a bounce because TT’s gone. Determination and intensity is two things we’ve lacked for weeks, why would it change now? Throw in the individual mistakes we’ve made every week since the season started, its not going to be great is it?

It is anything but. Either that or the new owner has been full of shit on his stance about Tuchel and wanting long term success with him since day 1 and has always had his own ideas about appointing someone else but didn’t do it for whatever reason (find that hard to believe considering he changed a lot of big pieces in the previous regimes operation without hesitation). I mean you don’t give your manager all the extra responsibility even if he didn’t want it, the power, everything they had given him and throw it away after 6 or 7 games into a season on a whim if you are a competent operator. You just don’t. It is knee jerk. Any other club and you’d agree. Also does anyone really think this group of largely inconsistent or underperforming players is going to be tenfold better with a new manager? We aren’t talking about a Chelsea team with players the calibre of a Hazard, a Fabregas, a Costa, a Terry, a Lampard, a Drogba etc. Theres a handful of good players and good pros but largely inconsistency has been this groups biggest problem since Frank came in. I mean who does the next manager come in and lean on? Our best and consistent player so far has been our right wing back. Whoever comes in next has a lot of work on their hands, as did Tuchel, because this group is struggling horrifically.

After last nights performances I hope he is demoted to the u23s. That is his level. Pathetic performances and attitude since he came in. He will undoubtedly be one of the players who’s relationship with TT soured too but not surprised, based on his reputation with his international manager, its no surprise. Primadonna.

This is a colossal mistake. Absolutely colossal. After so much talk of building long term with and having absolute faith in Tuchel, Todd Boehly’s basically shat the bed and underperforming mediocre and inconsistent players have basically sealed the fate of another manager. Potter, Poch, Zidane or Rodger Schmit? Are the club for real 😂 Perhaps Potters up and coming yes but if anyone thinks he is going to come in and do a good job here straight away then they are dreaming. The expectations at Brighton and here are so different. Plus hes been allowed to shape his squad over the last 3 seasons. He clearly wont get that time here if this is anything to go on. Todd Boehly again will be painted negatively in the press, more so after the whole “buying every player” narrative this summer but deservedly so this time because this is clearly the decision of a man who has no real footballing advisors around him. This is a knee jerk move. Not even Roman would of pulled the trigger this early into a season.

Definitely a lot of blame on the players. Maybe just for making poor mistakes/decisions/effort more than anything. I mean we have played a 352, a 343, a 4222 this season and thats after people kept saying change to 4atb or 3atb. Its clear that it isn’t a formation issue, its the personnel in it. If theres something going on behind the scenes, I don’t know, but poor performances and body language is worrying. TT isn’t a manager to mince his words either in public so whether or not the pre season comments after the Arsenal game, the soft team comments, the need for quality players comments etc haven’t gone down well either (but it’s not like he’s wrong in most instances) but whatever’s going on, I don’t see a team fighting for each other, to turn their fortunes around or for their manager who is maybe under pressure.

Real acid test for Ange Postecoglu and his style/philosophy but so far so good for Celtic, in fact unlucky not to be ahead. Playing some brave but great stuff. And there is Madrid, doing what they do best, as they did last season against us, PSG and Liverpool. 1-0.

Going to get a lot of stick but ultimately the expectations on this guy with a largely inconsistent group of players and 9 new signings, I don’t think we will pull the trigger any time soon. Needs to be change though, real soon, in terms of performance levels.

Mental he has subbed on Ziyech and hasn’t subbed him off already. He is utter shite.

You just said “your not blaming Fofana for the goal per se” now hes not entirely blameless, make your mind up 😂 Maybe he isnt fit (again I would imagine hes either as close to or basically fully fit) but I would hope that his fitness wouldn’t be to such a poor extent that it’s affecting how he’s playing.

How can you blame KK for losing out on a header but not blame Fofana for being unaware of where his opposite numbers positioned and not dropping off when he’s the last player in the backline? That is basics… If he was positioned better he would of controlled the whole situation because he controls the space behind him better.

Oh come on…. Even if he’s not fully fit, their goal didn’t happen purely because he’s not fit or he’s lost a step. Its so basic, it happened because he’s not aware who’s around him and doesn’t drop off 1 or 2 yards like any ordinary CB would do there, never mind a supposed top top one who can be the best in the world in a few years. And before that KK loses an aerial duel which a certain fat spanish waiter did say to the media that aerial duels and concentration wasn’t necessarily a huge strength of his. Hopefully its just that both are playing in a struggling team and everyone’s making mistakes as opposed to being glaring weaknesses in their game to fail to do the basics in those situations. Also Kova just played that pass one sec too late 🙁 would of been the start we needed

Age old saying though, you couldn’t hang your hat on Havertz. For all the talent he supposedly has, what does he bring? Sterling and Aubamayang need time to gel but I feel sorry for both. Leaving City and Barca to play in this.

Feel sorry for Sterling. Really do. Leaving City to play in this attack, jesus christ, poor guy. Also whilst KK getting stick for goal, Fofana has to do much better too…. Surely? I mean he must see the man behind him and anticipate the knock on? I mean KK 100% has to go for that header but Fofana’s ball watching and doesn’t anticipate KK losing the header to drop off….. 2 CBs who cost £100m got schooled by failing to do the basics.

I get that but say in 3 or 4 full seasons again when he or the club turns around and wants to renegotiate then again, we are looking at £300-£350k+ a week. Easily. True on his performances but £250k now just means the next one is going to be £300-£350k+ minimum and no doubt with his trajectory in say 3 years we will sit down and want to renegotiate a deal. I mean people can say what they want and this is all hypothetical but giving a 22 year old £250k a week after 128 appearances, whilst he has been pretty impressive I still think he is definitely young enough and clearly we could have given him a slightly lower wage and he would of resigned because he’s a Chelsea lad. I mean I still remember the talk when United gave Rashford a 200k + a week deal. There was a lot of criticism, giving him a mega mega contract. I would of hoped that Boehly would of been a bit more measured in particular with new deals for the likes of Reece and Mason. Not that they don’t deserve a pay rise or a wage similar to some of the other guys absolutely not, but again to not put the club in a position where 3 or 4 years down the line the wage structure has to be hugely restructured and no doubts, it will have knock on effects on other players.

Great news but personally I feel 250k a week (highest paid defender in club history) is madness. And I’ll go back to it but as soon as we gave CHO 150k a week this was always going to happen. Mason will likely renew next and be on similar terms.

It is more than a bit rich, we have won some of the biggest trophies in club football playing the same way. As have several other clubs. I mean this dominate possession but struggling to put chances away… unfortunately you don’t get any prizes for playing good football and winning nothing despite this footballing hipsters ideology that you need to play good football to be successful. Ten Hag looks like he has found a way of playing and winning which suits his squad whilst not necessarily being his style. Or certainly based on his team at Ajax but would say that no manager can recreate their previous team to the point its identical. Pep’s sides have changed slightly each club be has been at, Mourinho’s have, Klopp’s have, Tuchel’s have. Its just another sign of a good manager incorporating things or an approach that suits some of the players they already have. A win against a good Arsenal side who threw a lot at them, makes that United result even better for then. And also shows that there is again more to football than having 60-70% of the ball or more passes than your opponent. United had more shots on target, more clear cut chances, likely they had a higher percentages of duels won and distances covered too. Small details that matter particularly in big games.

The number of touches are irrelevant, even more so considering he got an assist for Gundogan’s goal…. I mean if someone only has 8 touches but still provides and assist or a goal, how is that an issue? That’s still contributing to the team. Using touch maps is pointless, particularly if someone has provided a goal or an assist. Even the other games where Haaland has scored or assisted, I bet his touches aren’t that high. Aguero was the same under Pep. Because he was in and around the box more than coming to feet. Or he was stretching teams making runs off the ball. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2022/08/14/erling-haaland-eight-touches-two-passes-man-city-bournemouth/ even the telegraph stated in an article that despite only having 8 touches he pulled Bournemouth apart.

Disagree. Just watch his back to back hat tricks. He's the real deal. Does a bit of everything.

Playing a back 4 over the last few weeks has only reinforced that we need to go back to 3 at the back IMO.