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Why should they be losing their minds though? I mean reallly. Ok. He hasn’t been great at Barca (who has really been consistent though in arguably one of the worst Barcelona sides of the last 15 years though?) but he’s only 24, his ability and potential is still there, he’s rarely injured and he’s the sort of player who could inject some impetus and ability to progress the ball forward into a mediocre midfield. I would imagine Erik ten Hag will be delighted to get someone of his profile in if true. I’d be shocked if he struggled at United if this move goes through, United lack someone of that ilk and someone with that skillset. And if ten Hag is to implement his style, this makes sense. But Utd fans are Utd fans… I guess it will be like opposition fans thinking we signed a ‘Barca reject’ in Cesc. Barcelona letting him go is also mainly financially driven. Definitely not to do with his ability.

New deal for him and RJ has been mooted. Must be top of the list. People keep trying to shoot him down but look at his stats this season. And yes that includes you @NikkiCFC How has Grealish’s season at City gone? Or Barkleys? 2 players you said were better than Mason repeatedly over the last 2 years.

Richard Keys is a grade A moron. Why would anybody and I mean anybody in the PL, want to sign Harry Maguire? He has been shocking for the best part of 18 months now at club level. Absolutely shocking. An English/homegrown core? Or Spine? Are Mount, James, Chilwell, Hudson-Odoi and Gallagher not English? Throw in a few others who are in and around the squad too either English or academy players… I mean the likes of James, Chilwell, Mount are effectively a part of the teams spine. They’ve been/were ever presents.

Sterling scores goals though. A high volume of goals. Granted he is in and out at City but I do think he’s the sort of player you cant just write off - remember prior to the Euros? Also Gabriel Jesus is also much more technically gifted and would fit our approach and style much much much more than Lukaku does. He is definitely good enough to score goals regularly for a top club. Which again he does at City even if he isn’t their first choice. I mean if those two aren’t players of quality then I don’t know. Plus they are exceptional team players.

We just have to see. Tuchel has given Ruben and Trevor a chance here when many expected they wouldn’t get one. Its tough to say he isn’t going to look at some other lads who looked like they may be on the verge of leaving/not featuring that are on loan and give them that same opportunity. I mean there is nothing to say he wont use someone like Dujon as a squad player and prioritise strengthening key positions where we are set to lose players ie. CB.

I think its definitely unfair to say that. Your effectively ruling out all players in Serie A based on one guy. Tomori has been pretty good for AC Milan since going there, playing consistently. Surprise, he’s been ever present this season for them and they are top of the league with only 31 goals against which is joint best with Inter and Napoli. For me, one of Frank’s biggest mistakes here was not playing him with Thiago Silva more at any point as I think they’d of made a pretty good partnership and he would of learned a lot too. What he lacked in reading of the game at that stage he would of learned and developed playing with Thiago. I mean why do people think Rudiger has all of a sudden also kicked on massively since TT come in? Thiago is definitely a help and the other guys will undoubtedly be picking things up off him.

Hard to judge until we see him in a Chelsea shirt though. I mean I doubt many people thought we would see Trevor Chalobah playing for the first team after his loans, but he has gotten a chance and taken it.

Statement signings are all well and good, but it has to be the right signing. Look at Lukaku. Backing TT is absolutely crucial though. We are only where we are because of him and his tactical nous has definitely made up for inconsistencies from players. Any other manager and this group wouldn’t be 3rd IMO.

Wont lie I have always rated Jesus, if City are willing to let him go even for £40-45m, I would take him here. 100%. He is an incredibly hard working footballer who has shown he can deliver with goals if played regularly. There are rumours he is unhappy at City due to lack of minutes over the years. Same with Bernardo Silva wanting to leave. And Laporte was another one at the time. For different reasons perhaps but none the less, wanting to leave. Plus you look at the type of CF we need, someone who is able to run the channels, drift in and out of central areas to link with others and ultimately, press well. I don’t think he would be a bad buy at all. In fact I think him going to Arsenal, would be a good move for both him and them.

Tuchel confirmed hes leaving this summer.

Will be next summer he moves unless one of us City or United offer a huge huge fee. Would imagine none of us or those two will due to other commitments/issues.

He will have to do so with Conte though, plus as an elite level manager he also has pulling power for players. He has effectively walked away from top top clubs because of this, he isn’t going to bluff with Spurs either, if Levy doesn’t put up a bit more he will go. And if Levy is willing to do that then he will feel a bit of backlash to say the least, from their fans. I agree with @Tomo, Arsenal top 4 is better than Spurs. Because they really aren’t going anywhere anytime fast, they’re good for 3/4 weeks, then shite for another 3/4.

Is it just me or is he looking and sounding a bit stressed/frustrated? I mean I dont want to make excuses for the guy but the last 8 weeks or so have been incredibly stressful mentally probably with all the talk or distractions from the press of Ukraine-Russia, Roman-Putin, new owners and splitting from his wife so I am not surprised that Tuchel is maybe starting to cut a frustrated figure of late. Throw in recent performances also doesn’t help clearly. He’s maybe saying that to the press but I have no doubts he will be in the dressing room tearing some of them guys apart and have clearer thoughts on how we lost tonight. The performances the last 3 home games defensively have been awful. 11 goals conceded. He also talked about mistakes also so its not as if he hasn’t said anything else and is just blaming the pitch. Its probably deflection tactics.

Still, not entirely convinced its worth persevering with someone who only seems to play alright 2/3 games every so long and ultimately has underwhelmed throughout his spell here. If we can get someone who can offer similar attributes and provide quality on a consistent basis then Werner is basically all but done here. Okay finding that is perhaps less straightforward than it sounds but even a different profile of player who can offer quality consistently. Depending on the likes of Ziyech, Timo and even Pulisic is very tough to do over the course of a season and you can’t build chemistry in a team by chopping and changing your attack due to poor/unconvincing performances every week. I don’t think he will survive here past the summer, or that he deserves the opportunity to either. Lukaku will be gone also. I am confident of this.

Not even close to compare him and Rudi’s situations. Rudi was actually pretty good under Conte and decent with Sarri, was really only Frank who froze him out. Rudiger had money in the bank so to speak from 2 seasons where he had performed reasonably well. Was Frank who didn’t play him/tried to let him go. And arguing to keep Werner but let Lukaku go is also so stupid (although aye Rom must go as it looks like his relationship with TT is broken). Like yes Rom is an ill fit (incredibly) but if people are willing to give Werner 3 seasons to prove his worth as a Chelsea player then we might as well give everyone more 3 seasons. No? I mean the two of them have flattered to deceive and I don’t think we can afford the patience to persevere with mediocre players (look at the Torres situation and what persevering/being unable to move him on did to us). Also wasn’t this the season Timo had to really prove himself? And play at a high level consistently? Or is it just keep going to he does it even if it takes another season or two or until his contracts done now? Get rid before we cannot/whilst we can get some resale value. Ziyech also in that group just now, not done enough.

Disagree on him getting the chance to resurrect his career here. Sell him in the summer. Has played 83 games now across 2 seasons only scoring 22 goals which ultimately for someone who was renowned for being a goalscorer is unacceptable. He has missed something like 15 easy chances across 2 seasons now too. If he stays and again doesn’t produce we risk losing out another 10m on his potential resale price probably. He is too inconsistent and also mentally seems not fully up to it. Maybe that’s harsh on his mentality but was he not blabbing to the media about how its easier to play for the German NT?

So not all doom and gloom again after Brentford and Real Madrid eh? Who’d of thought…

It will still dishearten a lot of fans, the father ‘may not’ be involved and they may have ‘distanced’ themselves from him but where do you think their wealth came from? They may have earned their places at other company’s but they own the baseball team through a family trust with their parents also as owners. I would assume that same family trust will be financing their bid for ownership here. Unless they’ve got that much sitting about under a mattress. So whatever way you look at it, their family name is bad news and an association with their father will always be there. The irony is the club is only really being sold due to our current owners past ties with Vladimir Putin, which are mainly/more than likely political. So I can absolutely see why this would be a deal breaker to some people because now we are suffering from having a current owner who has a political past with somebody who is morally a very questionable person. Well the groups have to the 11th now. The biggest hold up will be the Government ensuring no cash goes into Roman’s pocket also. Wait and see.

Hmmmmm…. I mean if he can keep playing as he is for longer than a month some would agree. But he normally tends to not, so probably overstepping the mark to say he’s too good for us right now. But Real beat us so its time for the over the top opinions to everything calms down when we win at the weekend.

Take more than just Broja and Gallagher though. Even at the beginning of the season Broja was never going to be the man or enough to lead our attack every week when trying to compete for a title when some suggested it (although clearly it is fair to say neither is Lukaku). Both have had good seasons so far but I think we would all like to have seen them play like this, in the PL, at this level, for longer than 1 year. I would imagine one will definitely be involved with the squad whilst another maybe on loan again to keep progressing based on how many loans they’ve had already. I mean look at when the guys came in under Frank, they were a breath of fresh air for a while then we hit a wall with inconsistencies. Two thirds of our attacking players are struggling/not at the required levels not to really further progress/compete with City and Liverpool as a team as well as Azpi/Rudi/Andreas all potentially leaving so its obvious that we will need a few.

🤣 so the knives are out after 2 poor team performances a few weeks after hes agreed to sign Barca. He’s basically been Mr consistent (at a very high level) for 80-90% of Tuchel’s reign, some of you need to settle down. It is embarrassing. Yous gonna turn on Rudi too if he leaves?

Pretty sure we had bad results prior to the CL games, particularly v Porto (WBA game) last season. Wouldn’t worry about this today in regards to the CL, form goes out the window for knockout football. Plus Madrid may be top of La Liga but they are an older side. Would expect TT to outwit Ancelotti tactically if I am honest, well, only if he plays 343 as us using a back 4 is horrendous.

Every time we use a back 4 with Tuchel, we struggle. What a shite result if it stays this way. And people have been continuously muttering about wanting to see a back 4 this season too. Doesn't work. Also RLC and Werner yikes. Not good enough.

Yep. Must be difficult not playing against Israel every week for Germany.

If we are stuck with Werner for another season we are doomed. In fact some of the attackers we have need a serious kick up the arse but Werner is clearly not a good fit to stay here for another season.