Tomo

Am i the only one who thinks Pique is over-rated? criminally, people talk about him like he is the best in the world but whenever he is put under serious pressure (IE against us at The Bridge) he looked out of his depth. If he played for us there be no talk about Luiz being the mythical liability thats for sure.

If Valencia pull off a win at the Camp Nou, which isn't beyond possibility, Valencia will be 4 points behind Barca and with the way Barca are playing right now could a battle for 3rd be on?

Any user on Talk Chelsea up for challenging them-self on this game? we need 2 more manager's for the new season to keep up our quota of 24 teams (3 division's, 8 team's in each). You can either take over a current team that has no manager, or you could create a team of your own and start from scratch. If you are interested or even curious, have a look at the Original Post in this thread by Blue Lion who basically explain's everything about the game, what i do however is 2nd a quote by LDN Blue "if you enjoy football manager, your defiantly enjoy this "If you enjoy Football Manager, you'll definitely enjoy this!".

Do we really want our well fed past it players to win again? they did this under Scolari but at least back then they had something to offer and were at their peak, now there past it and still think their managers? fuck off. Any player disrespecting AVB can leave, whoever it is, some will say that is "disrespecting" club legend's but acting up and sulking is hardly showing our club any respect is it? and as far as im concerned Chelsea FC > any player.

Moyes would flop at big job IMHO. He has worked wonders at Everton but Sam Allardyce did similar with Bolton (three top 6 finishes with a squad that cost just over £10m) but still made a pigs ear of it when he got a big job.

Bit rusty at times for obvious reason's but the quality is there, its hardly like he got skinned. A run of games for Ryan now is needed.

Genk at home and Everton in the carling cup.

The one's in the orange or yellow?

AVB has been doing his best to get shot of the player power, yes he may have gone a bit too far with the Alex and Anelka situation but would you rather Malouda's hairdresser was still coming into Cobham and Cole was bringing air rifle's in?

The service excuse is about 6 months too old, for a supposed world class forward to go on a 17 game run without a goal then beat that baron run the following season renders me speechless. 5 goals in 46 games, take away that mini 4 goals in 4 run he went on in September thats 1 goal in 42 games for 180k a week, unacceptable. Watching Torres is like watching Kalou without the hope of a "lucky tap in" to win us the match.

No he shown glimpses of liveyness, made a few runs just needs more service

If he was signed for £5m from Cardiff we would have cut our loses in January if not loaned him to the championship.

Enough is enough!!!! The first few months we could excuse him because A: He came mid season and was not fully settled. B: He was thrown in the deep end with new team mates. C: Rooney, Drogba and even Henry have suffered from baron spells in front of goal in the past. But 5 goals in a year in unacceptable for a supposed world class forward at his peak regardless of service behind him, and to go on a 17 game baron run and then beat it the next season renders me speechless. If it's so ultimately impossible to score in this team then why does Sala Kalou (who is regarded by a lot of Chelsea fans as the worst Chelsea player in the Roman era if not longer) chip in with a respectable amount? Kalou gets regularly picked on for sub par displays on 60k a week but atleast he makes up for his frustrating displays with goals, Torres is on 180k a week (what possessed us to pay that much when he would surely have accepted much less) and is producing displays that make Kalou look like Pele. We should try and pull on Leti's heartstrings and try and muster up a swap (or even a bit of money on our behalf) for Falcao, we could use an extended loan for Courtious as bait too.

one of my best mates is a Birmingham fan so this is a bigger game for me tommorow than it would have been else. He has hated Cahill ever since he scored that overhead kick against Brum for Villa and ive joked that he will be doing it again tommorow

It would just be typical if Torres bags a couple tommorow then.

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I so hope thats true, these players need putting in their places.

Its sentiments like that which has got us in this shit in the first place.

If AVB gets sacked we could be starting next season with "another chance" for Malouda and co with Rafa Benitez in the dugout, be careful what you wish for, very careful.

Ive said all along during 2004-2008 we should have done what Barca are doing now and keep strengthening and evolving the squad while we were on top. While we build the new team we need to set our current players who actually have some hunger namely DL4, R7 and JM10 as the players to build around, well fed "superstars" and the past their best players need to leave and accept a significant lesser role respectively.

Bale would work at Barca as a left back and with Abidal getting on it would be a good move. It's what we should have done when we were amoungst the best in Europe, strengthened and evolved the team while we were on top.

Well it was Torres who persuaded Mata to join, so can we class that as we spent £73m on Mata?

I think we have actually forgot just how bad last season was!!

All out now in terms of excuses for Torres. I was one of his biggest defenders in the first 6 months, i was convinced that the summer would see a return to form for Nando but excuses (especially the one about lack of service) can only go so far. Our service was poor last season yet Kalou (who is regarded by a lot of user's on here as the worst player in the whole squad) chipped in with 11, world class forwards will still find away to goal no matter what service is behind him, he is 27 he should be hitting his prime but he is so far from that it's depressing. He is very unlikely to get back to his best, best chance we have of re-coupling a decent fee, loan him out to spain for the season and if he shine's that hope Anzhi or PSG come in with a crazy ass offer. Patience can only go so far, if he wasn't signed for £50m he would have been in the reserves.