Tomo

That's what they said about Falcao

A lot are thinking it's Torres vs Lukaku for starting most games, if we don't get a forward i think it will be more Lukaku vs Ba.

48 in 48 the season before last Could be worth a shot if the price is right, i suppose.

Not to mention that he is probably the reason the reason we hesitated with other big money moves (ie Cavani), its actually unbelievable, he has fucked us on so many levels.

Im still haunted by losing out on Aguero, the lads fucking amazing and was practically whoring himself to us.

wtf? Are you trying to imply i played any part in you getting banned? that's insane, i was about to write saying you didn't deserve to but then i saw Steve's thread saying you asked to get banned.

I was one of the main one's defending him when we were about to sign him, when he was getting dismissed as "only a Bolton player" i was saying from the start he will be a decent squad player then when it went too far the other way (new captain, like JT in his prime) i bite my tongue for months, it wasn't until someone said he was much better than Luiz (roughly last December) i took the bait. He's never going to be more than a squad player, i don't see the shame in admitting that.

As in get's snapped up by a big club a bit late into his career and shine.

I actually think if a top club got Rickie Lambert, he could do a Diego Milito. Even at Bristol Rovers i knew there was something really special about him.

He already is, there's a reason Barca are prepared to break the bank for him.

Kojo he isn't a scapegoat, we have a right to question his defending for Miller's goal, it was woeful, if Luiz did that this forum would crash. With Cahill it's always one extreme or the other, anti Cahill's call him only a Bolton player, pro Cahill's react by calling him the next JT any time he makes a last ditch challenge or has a half decent game, anti Cahill's react next time he has he has a bad game, rinse and repeat. He's not the perfect defender, which is why he is not first choice, a good squad player, i really hope Mourinho can sort out his tendency to back off and let opponents have free shots. He also has a tendancy to get sold dummies easily (Miller tonight, Gomez in Munich, Gibbs vs Arsenal at home), he has got good passion however i like how he celebrates close shaves (to conceding a goal) like we just scored.

It won't be Torres, after what Jose said about him struggling against teams that will defend deep, won't it be a bit contradictory by the special one to play him against what will probably turn out to be one of the most defensive teams in PL history? It's between Ba and Lukaku, and my gut instinct is saying Ba with Romelu as an impact sub, Ba did well against Roma when he came on.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0YU-DCo-aY

@Jype, Vertonghen is hugely over-rated, his goals cover up some glaring defensive frailties, Spurs had a mere 3 clean sheets in their last 19 league games last season and he was one of the main reason's for that.

Watford look good for a promotion push this term, imo he should go back there and if the hornets go up, there again. There's no rush for him.

Got to say i like the thought of DDR, Rami and MVG rotating pivot roles. Mikel, Essien and Lampard can back them up in that respect.

Mourinho's not Harry Redknapp he wouldn't reveal something like that without an ulterior motive.

Wonder who will start out of Ba and Lukaku? After Jose's comments about Torres struggling against teams that will play deep he will completely contradict himself playing Torres for this one.

It was the reason we were struggling for 4th, if we had a proper forward we would never be losing at home to QPR, ever!!!

You can't say Torres has not cost us results last season?

Well what about this from who 90% of Chelsea fans seem to desperate to sign.

Yilmaz

Jose's first two season's were the exception and the reason we got away with it is because Drogba and Eidur made up for lack of goal's in other ways, Torres doesn't. Since Jose left there has only been one season we have had a forward consistently banging in goals during the course of the season and that's the only season since we have won the league.

One last chance under Mourinho? how many last chances is he going to get? 2011 it was give him a full summer break, more service and a full pre season with us. The result? a 24 game goal drought to beat his 17 game one the previous campaign. Last summer it was give him a chance now he doesn't have Drogba's shadow and we have signed more creative number 10's, then in November it was lets see how he does under Rafa the result? 5 months without a PL goal under a manager he supposedly thrives under aswel as another run of 1 goal against Brentford in 16. Now it's give him a season under Mourinho. What next summer when this experiment is yet another epic fail? Get Alonso and Mascerano in as they were playing for Liverpool when he was at his peak? It's time to accept we signed a dud, Liverpool did it with Carroll and Downing, we did it with Sheva, it's time we do the same now.

Although i hate Arsenal it's been overlooked just how much Walcott stepped up for them last season after RVP left, maybe he is finally starting to live up to his potential, and he is only 23 years old. Maybe we should have got him when we had the chance.