Tomo

Ba showed today he is better than Torres but still nowhere near good enough to lead the line for us, hopefully we get a forward who can rotate with Lukaku, Martinez or Yilmaz would be ideal.

My stream froze just before the ball dropped to Wiemann for that chance late on, i didn't know what to do with myself.

We played shite but still got 3 points, those type of games wins you title's.

Could we be in danger of dropping down to pot 2 if we have another poor CL campaign? lets be honest 11/12 aside we haven't done anything of any note in the CL since Hiddink was around.

MVG will be a great player for us no doubt about it, but it's a bit unfair on the lad given him that type of burden at 20, best to ease him into the team before pining our hopes on him.

After last season i want the weakest group possible, i remember in previous years some want a tough group for entertainment, after last year i don't think ill be alone now in wanting the easiest group possible, get this done after 4/5 matchday's.

What an incredible player we have, superb engine, under-rated finisher and his technical ability is getting better by the day, it will never be up there with the best, but that isn't his job so it doesn't matter. He will be our most important player this season, we can rotate the 6 behind the forward depending on who we are playing, but whenever Rami is out, we will feel his loss. He will get even better under Mourinho. What i do hope is Jose starts working on aspects of his game other than pace, because that won't be around forever and if he carries on relying on that, his decline when his pace does go (or god for bid gets a nasty injury) will be steeper than Essien's.

It was Curbishley leaving that caused Charlton to nose dive down the league's, they were still just as good for a few years after Parker left, a couple of months into 05/06 they were at one point our closest challengers in the league

Your right. Swap KDB for Shurrle in my lineup.

Arsenal's Champions League opponents Fenerbahce will not learn whether the appeal against their ban from competing in Europe has been successful until after their qualifying tie. The Court of Arbitration for Sport has confirmed that it will issue its decision on Wednesday, 28 August - the morning after the second leg at the Emirates Stadium... You just KNOW what's going to happen, don't you???

-----------------Cech-------------------- Azpi-------Ivan-------Terry-------Cole ------------Ramires---MVG------------ KDB-----------Mata-------------Hazard -----------------Lukaku------------------

2 of those title's were because we had stupid injury crisis's that was never seen before in football. He only had 3 goals in over 40 games combined against Chelsea and Liverpool, theres a reason for that, he's was a the time a flat track bully

Ronaldo use to constantly disappear from games when he was at Man.utd (especially big ones).

Another media sulk is on the cards i imagine.

I do agree in a sense, but out of the top 8 i can only see City and possibly Tottenham being a nuisance to us physically. The physical teams below the top 8, we still should be far too good for if we bring anything above our b game (for example, see the Stoke away game last season). I think we will be in a similar way to United under Fergie this campaign under Jose this term, their's still weakness in our squad but domestically it won't harm us too much, it will be the CL were we will get our fingers burned.

We finished 3 points behind City last season and have considerably improved our squad, the only difference between us last season was the head to head's. I can see City dropping a lot more silly points than us this term, which could be the difference even if they beat us twice.

I just watched back Jose's interview after the City vs Madrid game when he was asked about Robbie getting sacked for Rafa and looking at it now, you could tell in his eyes he was not liking the fact his arch rival was in his (what was at the time) former seat.

So one whole week of hearing how City are this super team that will take over the world, great.

Funny how there's always people here to defend Torres no matter what, i wonder were these people were when Kalou was getting it, joining in probably

Ivan--Luiz---JT---Cole That back 4 = clean sheets.

Because he cost £50m, i can't think of one forward in my life time as a Chelsea supporter (with the exception of Sutton) who hasn't looked like Pele in comparison to Torres.

I dont think letting Sturridge go is as big a mistake as some make out (eventually we will have a world class forward that will stop us bumping Danny's thread every time he scores for Liverpool) but to say Torres is better than Sturridge and worse try and give reason's for it, is a joke.

Offer him to Real Madrid, Carlo can't fall for this twice, can he?

@Muzchap, Despite sitting back a bit in the second half Hull only had one real good chance which was the Curtis Davies header. We were in complete control.