Tomo

How are they are rivals, exactly?

Moyes is United's Roy Hodgson.

tbf he is right, Drogba's penalty happened to be one of the worst in the shootout but it doesn't matter in the end because it was the one that one it

Nice to see he is finally getting some praise, this is something that probably belongs in unpopular views but...... .....he will be starting more games than De Bruyne this term, and rightly so

Best keeper i have ever seen, yes including Schmeicel, if Cech was his successor at United instead of going to Chelsea it wouldn't be debatable.

He looks like making good out of the (previously horrific) Cahill and Luiz partnership. He is a genius.

Sadly you're right, i have got it at points in the last year or so (including a couple of times recently), sometimes to the extent where you would think i did something that was worthy of a ban.

I voted for Cahill, i have criticized his bad games in the past, so it's only fair i show recognition when he has a very good one.

Fair play to him, he was good tonight but in the grand scheme of things its still too little too late.

All tonight done was further strengthen what i have been saying all summer and why i was more than happy for Cavani to come. Lukaku is going to be a great player for us, just not yet.

You were practically campaiging against the Cavani signing in the summer so Lukaku got a chance, now you want Lukaku to be shipped out on loan to give time to one off the worst players in our history? Jesus fuking christ.

@Kojo, is ignored, for good this time, fed up of personal attacks every time i try and make a point (like in the Cahill thread) and to think i defended him when he got banned.

Like the time you acused me of scapegoating Cahill, despite the fact you have been doing the same to Mikel for years. grow up.

Fuk that, worry about the good teams later, the group stage is about getting through as quick as possible.

This isn't about blaming anyone, numerous members are going to click on this thread expecting analysis about the match and see a petty argument taking over, its not just you two, it happens a lot and should be tookto the pub or pm.

I apoligise for playing mod, but can you two take this to the pub or private messaging.

The Russian league isn't as bad as made out, they have the Moscow teams and Zenit who are strong, certainly not that much weaker then the french league (for example). We don't even need him at his previous best, with the midfield we have a striker who knows what he is doing should be fine.

The CL has got so much stronger, few years back there was some weak teams in even pot 2, now pot 4 is quite strong.

Viktoria Plzen or Austria Wien please

Im guessing he has gone back to not caring about results

You were saying?

He took a paycut before (to move from Leti to Liverpool) so there's hope. Im guessing it's his choice, money or world cup. It can't be that hard, City managed to get shot of Adebayor in the end.

Don't you mean this? see left to David Luiz.

I would laugh if the club tell Torres Eto'o is getting his #9 shirt.

Torres wants to play football, i could see him trying to force a move through (even if its on loan) as his place in Brazil looks under threat. After Munich he went sulking to the media saying he might consider his future until we made that obscene promise to him that he will be number 1.