Tomo

and how do we know Lukaku wouldn't have? Azpi waited months and got his reward. He would have probably been rotating with Eto'o by Christmas. Regarding the quotes, i haven't jumped on any of them, you can check my posting history.

I dont think Jose loves Rami as much as people think, the Cesc and Tiago deals will mean he is by no means untouchable.

If the rumours if him potentially leaving are true would that be the biggest hint yet we are reverting back to 4 3 3 full time?

Azpilicueta didn't get a single minute in those two games yet kept working and working and hey presto, ended up one of the best players in our season and will probably be starting for the defending world champions in the World Cup. He's a talented young player but has a lot still to prove to even be considered as #1 here, yes i know he scored a lot of goals for the 5th best team in England, so did a certain Seneglese striker in 2012, now who's that again? With the team's profile, especially with the youth of our AM's, Eto'o was a better option, look up the impact he made on Hazard and the link up play they shared, a 20 year old leading the line with 22 year olds behind him just simply wouldn't have worked. I have hope for Lukaku and really don't want him sold, at the same time do i believe loaning him out cost us the title? no i don't and nothing will convince me otherwise.

Name 1 of these 'so many games' and ill go and have a look.

Ummmm when did Eto'o fall over exactly?

it will boost his confidence

Last season wasnt a failure, despite contary belief by Brendan Rodgers and his sheep defending is part of football and we have built a solid foundation to add the likes of Cesc in. Next season if we dont win anthing it would be a failure but I still wouldnt want Jose sacked.

Post's like these are part of the reason to why i think he is overrated. I don't think he's rubbish but i certainly don't think he would have made the difference needed to win the title that people make out. For the team last season, an experienced option like Eto'o was needed more, especially with all our AM's bar Willian and Mata till he left 22 or under.

I don't think Cahill is captain material, id put Azpi before him, Gazza needs stability in defence to perform his best, which, for me, rules him out as next captain.

He is probably the most overrated player in our squad atm bar Torres (the fact not everyone thinks he's absolute shite makes him overrated by default). If he stayed with us he would have faced the same rotation policy the others have (with such young am's, no way would a player with rough edges be no 1) with that i reckon he would have got roughly the same amount off goals as Eto'o did, who's contributions last season are criminaly under rated. Gary Neville said a few weeks back he now see's why he went on loan, Everton fans are not convinced about splashing big money on him, there's a reason for that. KDB was getting the same type of hype which ended in the meltdown, and before some one accuses me of discriminating against Belgium players im constantly on the Hazard thread saying he's our best player by a distance, i say Courtois should be our keeper next year and i was practically starting a campaign to sign Witsel before Matic became available. I say it how i see it and for me Lulu has a long way to go

I don't think any other person in sport has as many myth's created about him than Jose does, some of the shit people spout is utterly mindblowing.

I honestly wouldn't sell this guy for any price, we sell him for 80 and to replace him with similar quality would cost the bulk of that money anyway, what's the point?

As good as our transfer policy on signing young players is, this summer unless it's to boost our HG quota we should delay it for 1 year and solely focus on players approaching their prime or players that can offer a role in the squad NOW, early signs are that's happening, which is good. In future summers we should strike a balance between the two, meaning the squad will continually evolve and we won't face another massive stagnation then transition period (to the same extent as this one atleast) ever again. I hate using other clubs as examples but there is a reason Fergie only had 1 transition period the 20 years after he built a winning team.

I can almost see it now Costa has an average debut in a match we win anyway, next pre match thread opens we have a group led by thekid9 saying Costa's been average and Torres deserves a chance to start.

In an ideal world we would sign both him and Shaw and put the latter on a loan programme akin to Courtois, but this is the real world and that is unrealistic. Looks like this and not Shaw is the deal happening and while i desperately wanted (still do really) Luke for many reasons, this won't be a bad deal at all, one of the best LBs in the world, can give us 3-4 good years, which is a long time (to put it in perspective Ivan broke into being a CFC regular only 5 years ago, feels longer right?). We need some HG players and Shaw would have been ideal but this guy would be a very good addition.

I had been thinking that, only issue is unless Oscar is moved to the middle it would almost certainly mean 2 off the other AM's would face serious lack of games. Hazard is untouchable while fully fit unless he completely loses form, which would mean 4 players effectively fighting for one spot, even if Oscar goes into midfield, that would still be Schurrle, Willian and Salah fighting for one spot. One would almost certainly face similar problems SWP did.

If our board pulled that of it would almost be revenge for the Torres deal.

Two and a half weeks since the trophy drought was broken it's like it never happened, the fans back to criticising Wenger and the board, saying if they let Cesc come here it would be Wenger's lowest moment, they are also having a complete meltdown over the Gazidis q and a thing. It was annoying seeing Le Arse win the cup, but if that is what made Wenger re sign then it was a necessary evil.

That's a good point, the likes of Costa and Drogba battled adversity (in Drogs case life as well as football, have no idea re Costa's childhood backstory) and faced a long hard battle to get to the top. Nando had it made for him at Leti and Liverpool, which goes a long way to explaining why he struggled to cope mentally when thing's started to unravel with us because in football he always had it good.

Unless he specifically wants 19 and Demba leaves to free that spot i would actually give him 9 and lump Torres a rubbish number. It needs to be made clear to him he won't be playing if he stays.

He got 20 in 44 the season before despite playing 2nd fiddle to Falcao, the 1 season wonder thing is a myth. Also Leti's system is a more advanced version of what Jose is turning us into, it's not like say SAS who has benefited and helped themselves to goals due to Brendan's borderline brainless attacking approach.

I gave up on him after the carling cup loss to Liverpool, i have been angry at the situation since then made worse by the fanboys and special treatment he received. Slowly the anger is turning to laughing at the situation. Lets say for argument sake Torres stays and Costa has an average debut, you just know that people will be clamouring for Torres to start in the next pre match thread after, i can see it now.

This has got to the point were im starting to make light of the situation, playing five a side earlier i kept chanting "Torres Torres Torres" at people every time they missed sitters.

We need to tie him to a new contract asap, he has 3 years left, it slowly starts to enter player control terroritry from then on. As for any one who wants him gone get real, he's on another level to anyone else we have. We sell him for 80 then what? whoever we spend the money on won't be fit to lace Eden's boots.