Kostas

One's a poacher with everything the word entails, the other is a hopeless excuse of a footballer. It's clear you're, for some reason*, trying to argue that the Ivorian is a poacher therefore he should get away with almost stealing from our club while being in the wrong sport. One gets on the end of loose balls and crosses due to his intelligent aggressive movement, positioning and *REAL* pace(=not imaginary) and scores due to actually having an ability to finish that is worthy of the level he plays. One escapes from his markers with his agility and speed while the other is rarely marked due to defenders knowingly ignoring him and being busy double-marking his, obviously better, partner in attack and him enjoying some, rare at this level, freedom and occasionally flourishing due to it . One wins good headers due to opponents underestimating him while the other doesn't even bother going fully into aerial challenges and waits hopes for a mistake so he could take a advantage of a spilled ball -which while statistically rare has happened and gave him the equally rare chance to score-. Nevertheless, (unfortunately) the only thing poachers are rated on is goals. One scored 13 PL goals in his first season in the league while the other's total at his current team, 36, was achieved 5 painful seasons after his purchase and is inflated by the overwhelming majority of them coming from games won by 4 or more. You can argue semantics as much as you want. If you can't see how a winning goal in a close match is worth more than one after a team is 3-4 goals ahead there's no point discussing. For the record, I don't even rate Hernandez. *I'd guess that's the only semi-viable line of defense as poachers are traditionally excused due to their good goalscoring record. Not something that Kalou can claim to have.

God you still haven't accepted that that argument is never going to convince anyone?

Our fullbacks are actually better dribblers than some of our forwards. Bosingwa may have only pace but Ash and Ferreira are more than decent and could easily challenge the likes of Kalou and the modern Malouda.

Do you think I'd have written that without considering Torres' transfer? That's insulting. The way Torres' transfer has turned out is precisely why I wrote what I did. Hazard's hype is in no way comparable to Luiz'.

He's definitely not a dribbler in the traditional way but when he glides past players using his agility and his deceptive pace he, in fact, dribbles past them.

Seems a tad too high profile for us and the January transfer window.

How come I've never heard of this Baker guy before seeing him yesterday? Is he in the same age group as Swift?

Sturridge, Luiz, Ramires. Probably in that order too.

Co-fucking-sign. Jesus it's like some of us have not witnessed dozens of negotiations throughout the years.

Poor McGarry, even when he guesses he can't be more wrong.

Congrats WHS

He got that from McGarry, safe to say it's bollocks.

I guess I've gotten so used to thinking in pounds and weekly wages when it comes to football that anything else seems alien.

Can you blame them? The same fans who hailed last January as a huge statement of intent in hindsight slaughter the club as if the owner bought toys for himself.

:censored: :censored: :censored: I even converted the sum from Euros but didn't notice it was per month. Who the hell calculates such things per month anyway?

*snip*

Suarez ahead of the likes of David Silva ...

By his standards that would be more than enough for me. But unfortunately he is more inconsistent in terms of workrate than you'd expect a player in his form.

Not getting drawn into another Kalou war but this gets worse each time I read it. Imagine the players WINGERS we could have given a chance over him.

Good thing he opted for Dijon. Can't imagine what the people at the club were thinking agreeing to sent him to the Greek league.

I watched only the last 30 minutes of yesterday's game but he didn't look particularly bothered to me. Despite getting 2 assists I'd say he looked more similar to the Torres we saw against Tottenham than the one against Wolves.

^Doubt they'll pay 3m for him only to start in the Reserve league..

Virtually the only thing that could make the managerial decisions in this game more disappointing would be a Ferreira for Bosignwa sub midway through the second half.

Bosingwa being as far away from the first team as possible. Mata being rested. McEachran and Bertrand starting. That's just off the top of my head.