Clockwork

I am saying for example if over a period of 5 years Man United performed better than West Ham then they should be in the CL, and if vice versa was true than West Ham should be in the CL. I think it makes sense to grant CL qualifications based on some historical data, it has merit and it rewards the clubs that are most consistent.

How is it favoritism if United have performed better than West Ham over a period time? That is another way of rewarding based on merit, and that is favoring consistency over outlier.

He shouldn’t be sacked, let’s be real everything goes through Roman and he has to sign off on it. Also it is unwise to give in to bully tactics.

Honestly why should West Ham be in the CL based on one fluke season? It is still merit based if you award teams who are consistently playing at higher level. Teams like West Ham are too volatile, one season they may push for push for top 4 and next season they may struggle to stay at the PL level.

Lmao you guys are so melodramatic. The super league was never going to happen anyway too many barriers.

I am not for the ESL, but the overreaction is insane, it is not the end of the sport. Like It or not, changes is part of life cycle.

It is a shame people can’t let go of their agenda, he has been playing some fine football since Tuchel took over. Against top competitions too.

Chelsea are unbeaten in the last 18 games when Jorginho has started. Honestly it is incredible how Chelsea fans constantly moan and bitch about him when he hardly even featured during a terrible stretch that ultimately got Lampard fired.

We have really hit rock bottom when you are wishing to see Alonso play again.

The only superior side you could argue was Inter, and Rafa Benetiz was so poor even an incredible second half season by Leonardo couldn’t help them overcome the odds. The best work any manager has done in Serie A over the past ten years is Conte and Sarri, and we hired both of them and fired both of them. I am done talking about Allgeri; because none of you could argue why he is a good fit, and it all come down to this nonsense He Is a WiNnEr.

Serie A was respectful league back then; FFP and rise of Qatari and UAE clubs destroyed the league. The thing is most Serie A owners were not in the business of making money out of their club, it was a hobby to them not a serious business. Regulations and unable to compete financially left the league in shambles.

Ibramovic carried his ass, once he was sold, Allegri was exposed and fired soon after. Seems like at 39 years old Ibra might carry another Milan manager to a title. Serie A is a broke league, do you even realize the quality of their squads. Inter have built a side on top of players that can’t compete at higher level of leagues.

Allegri is a winner? Lol, people are discrediting any manager who won with PSG. yet Juventus have been even more dominant in Serie A, they have won 9 straight league title. He has not won shit outside of grandpa league.

Who do you prefer?

How about those signings though like Morata, Bakayoko, Rudigar, Drinkwater, Kepa, and Jorginho?

I disagree with your lining of reason, you can’t judge it in hindsight. Your intention might be ambitious or not, but it is not dependent on results. Madrid hired Zidane after sacking Carlo, a coach as experienced as Lampard. Did you say they lack ambition at the time? His hiring resulted in unprecedented success in the CL. Barca hired a novice manager in Pep too. Madrid also hired Lopetegui who basically the same pedigree as Sarri, which failed, Barca hired a dozen of mediocre coaches post Pep. The popular thinking at major clubs years ago was to hire a manager who had won before at other places, rinse and repeat. Pep, Zidane, Conte, etc have proven that is not the only way, in fact finding the right fit could lead to more success. personally I don’t think you even understand what the term ambition means, it is not synonymous with success.

Are you for serious? Sarri was one of the most admired and attractive manager at the time, did you forget we had a transfer ban before we hired Lampard? You are also saying our standard has been lowered after being the arguably the biggest spender in Europe. Actually our standard were much lower when he had Willian and many other deadwoods in the squad. We had Hazard and failed to surround him with better talent. For god sake have some perspective man, it’s fair to say Lampard is not competent to lead this team forward, but in the grand scheme of things he has built a squad that is much better than before and someone else could win with. Trial and error is part of football.

It amuses me how this guy has barely played in our terrible slide, yet most Chelsea fans want to blame.

Imagine having all these talented players and going for Allegri. Are you out of your minds?

I don’t think the frustration from players are there where they point the finger at the manager. Still young and trying to settle in. btw I haven’t been on the forum lately, who is the TalkChelsea popular choice to replace Lampard.

I think he is still largely respected, even if if there some doubts. Still that doesn’t mean they buy in to the next guy, it’s a delicate situation. This is not Chelsea squad of the past, where it is a room full of veteran or players in their prime who have went through the manager merry go round.

Most of the players we signed in the summer are primary here due to Lampard, got to bring someone who the players buy in to.

The only defense I can think of is what are the alternative?

It pains me to say this but he has to go. I don’t understand his obsession playing Pulisic on the right and Warner on the left. This squad is too talented to play this poorly.

I think the dilemma is both best position is LW, it will be interesting how Lampard utilizes them.