MrBlueGuy

If he turns out to be their Dave 22m is a bargain

Not mention all the fans here will bitch about if we pay Koke'e release clause, which imo us or Barca will have to if we want to sign him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naQaRjuRFSQ

1m less but to live in London and play CL every single season, even though MU is likely to get back into it after next anyway. Hmm tough choice, if I was him I would think about the system both managers are planning to use or at least speak to managers about it before making a decision. Or if he is just after money then we will clearly lose out.

Now he is claiming he will sign a 5 years deal, hahahahaha yeh because a doctor would know about these negotiations, assuming he is even a doctor at Chelsea as I searched his name on Google and we got a doctor with that same 2nd name.

Not mention we got a reject from Madrid as manager, sold a reject to PSG for world record fee, sold a reject to MU earlier this year. Why do teams keep signing these damn rejects? Because they are top class people in this sport and just because they doesn't fit in a team doesn't mean they won't fit in another one.

Doubt it, not if they continue to play the same way all the time using the same mentality. Arsenal had RVP, Nasri, Fab, Song...etc all at their best a few years ago and lost to Birmingham in the final+facing same old problems in title race.

Mourinho's power is much more restricted now compared to previous spell and at Inter/Real. At Inter for example he would never say things like ''I need to ask the board's permission in picking a weaker team'' like he did against Liverpool 2 months ago. He knows that his reputation has been tarnished after Real spell so now if he fucks up here many top teams will start to doubt him and wonder whether it is worth it to hire someone so disruptive. Of course he is still a powerfully figure as evident by the fact that he could persuade the board to sell Mata and Luiz, I doubt RDM or Rafa would have dared. Basically if Mou leaves Chelsea again, the only major team that would welcome him imo is PSG and I doubt he would want to go there.

Both are majorly inflated. Some of it comes from last few mins when Barca/Real have been winning 2-0/3-0 already and usually it is just a breakaway and a tap in for Morata/Neymar/Messi...etc. If they played in BPL they would be on around 10-15 max and that is if they have a really good season. Ozil had like over 30-40 in 2 seasons combined with Real if I am not wrong, last season he only had like 15 for Arsenal. Now I am not saying they are bad, but those type of statistics are no reason to judge the player or compare them.

Tbf they won nothing under Jose last season but yh I agree it is ridiculous argument

Agreed, we don't always have to go for obvious names. Ramires in WC 2010 for example...Who knows we might find someone like Gary Mendel after the WC

Also he played mostly on the LW as well, Tata sometime love to use him there. After like 10-20 articles per month you have to do it. Got a way to get around though-delete cookies from the telegraph in setting.

Let them have him, so that is Mata/Rooney/Kagawa and Fab fighting over that no10 role. Well unless they are planning to use him as a CM next to Carrick which imo wouldn't be effective.

Fabregas played as a CM earlier in his career, for the past few years he has been playing as CAM and false 9 mostly for Arsenal(toward the end), Barca and Spain. If we are gonna use Fab in a no8 role I would prefer us to sign Paulinho instead as I believe he will do a better job defensively, we have enough creativity and attack with our 3 CAM

That would be one of the biggest irony in football history

Who are you referring to? Oscar or Fab? Either wouldn't be good as a CDM next to Matic. They are both CAM

And sell Oscar to PSG? Otherwise there is no place

Could say the same about Shaw, he really came to life during this season, last season I doubt many people even knew who he were. Also Filipe has actually been considered a top LB since 3-4 years ago, during 1 point there was rumors of him going to Real but he broke his leg so it was off so he moved to Atletico.

Unless you are Messi, Ronaldo, Suarez

He is a weird player, for some reason all the managers seem to feel sorry for him despite him being crap. Yesterday for example he missed an open 1 on 1, scored a pen and afterward Del Bosque praised+included him in the final squad. Same with Jose, after criticizing him after that Palace game, he was picked again a couple of weeks later. At this point his transfer fee doesn't matter anymore, and I doubt it is his reputation either. He must work extremely hard in training, even though his body cannot take it anymore.

Included in final squad, he is going to the WC. Hope he doesn't fuck up his injury even more or we will have to cancel the deal. In 2 weeks technically he should be fully fit anyway.

I know, I am not saying we should sign him as he is not really a CM that we need, I am just talking about people who are seriously underrating him as player. Btw if he could be a good replacement for Oscar if we sell him to PSG but that is not going to happen. Obviously for our team Pogba would be a better fit.

Loving the unappreciative of Koke in here, yes he isn't worth 48m in the same way Pogba isn't worth anything over 35-40m, Shaw 20m...etc. But teams will still have to pay these prices. You know why? Because they don't want to leave at any mean and their clubs don't want to sell as well, well not for acceptable prices. If you don't take inflation into account, Koke is worth 25-30m min in today's market anyway. He is better now than Mata was when he joined us in 2011. So people not wanting him here because the price is one thing but underrating him is unacceptable. You guys need to understand that just because he doesn't bang them in from 30 yards like Pogba doesn't mean he is shit or average. His crosses are possibly one of the best in Europe atm and we witnessed some of it 1st hand when he hit the bar early on against us, he has been doing that regularly for Atletico-but most of you don't watch Liga so you wouldn't know. Koke is better than Willian, Oscar, Salah and Schurrle atm. I would say he is even on par with Mata/Cazorla based on this season's form.

Naaa but any style associated with Jose cannot be wrong?

For 4 months? Naaa, maybe for a couple of weeks toward the end of the season.