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Coronaviral

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Coronavirus: Italy records 743 deaths on its second deadliest day

US has third-highest number of confirmed cases globally behind China and Italy as WHO warns it could be next epicentre.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/03/uk-closes-warns-pandemic-accelerating-live-updates-200323234651419.html

 

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3 hours ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Unfortunately politics affects everything

Fortunately, at times like this most politicians, of all parties, have the basic common sense and decency to put party politics and points scoring aside. Yes, by all means scrutinise and amend/improve legislation as much as possible, as our parliament has been doing, but nothing more than that.

Outraged to see a gang of  20 fucking scumbags having a barbeque in the street and even refusing Police orders to stop it. Again, because of the extreme PC state we've got ourselves into,  the Police were having to tread extra carefully when it comes to certain sections of society.

If these measures aren't enough, then bring in fecking Marshall Law. Arrest  the bastards, take them away and put them  in a camp for a year.

 

 

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There are a few crazies around who think the virus is a hoax.
The first one I came across in facebook I knew he was a certified nutcase so I was not impressed a great deal.
But the second one was an artist fairly well known in Greece. I knew he had some strange ideas but I was absolutely astounded when he suggested that all that is happening in Italy is ... a hoax !
I also listened to Donald Trump's crazy speech.
They should be locked away ...

 

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Queuing patiently outside my local chemist (only 2 people allowed in at same time, which is exactly what we need. so well done to the shop) some brain donor walks up and asks what's going on and why people were standing so far apart. 

Sorry, but cnuts like this should not have children!

 

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On 3/22/2020 at 8:54 PM, Fulham Broadway said:

DM  thrives on dividing people. It has endless stories about immigrants, celeb scandal, and always backs the tory party, which allows its billionaire owner to not pay any tax. 

It backed the Nazi party in the 1930s, its journalism is generally like a satirical comic, but its real.

 

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4 hours ago, chippy said:

Queuing patiently outside my local chemist (only 2 people allowed in at same time, which is exactly what we need. so well done to the shop) some brain donor walks up and asks what's going on and why people were standing so far apart. 

Sorry, but cnuts like this should not have children!

 

we may vehemently disagree politically, but I admire and thank you for your stance on this (social distancing)

cheers

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Dont think using the term good is appropriate under the circumstances but the UK have tailed off a bit re Italy's projection in deaths, few days ago we were neck and neck and now nearly 400 behind (at the same stage).

I guess at this point it's all about looking for the small battles. Still a long way to go but Italy's numbers going down is certainly a small baby step as would China slowly getting back to normality without another mass outbreak.

Seriously concerned about Spain though, can't believe how badly it's escalated there.

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'Healthy' 21-year-old dies after contracting coronavirus in UK

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/healthy-21-year-old-dies-17977959

Chloe Middleton's family have pleaded with people to stay at home and protect others after her tragic death

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The family of a healthy 21-year-old woman who has died after contracting coronavirus have desperately urged others to stay at home.

Chloe Middleton's family took to social media to describe the "unimaginable pain" they are going through after her tragic death.

The young woman was described as healthy by her family who are urging people to strictly follow government measures to stay at home, the Mirror reports.

Mum Diane Middleton wrote on Facebook : “To all the people out there who think it's just a virus please think again.

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12 hours ago, Tomo said:

Dont think using the term good is appropriate under the circumstances but the UK have tailed off a bit re Italy's projection in deaths, few days ago we were neck and neck and now nearly 400 behind (at the same stage).

I guess at this point it's all about looking for the small battles. Still a long way to go but Italy's numbers going down is certainly a small baby step as would China slowly getting back to normality without another mass outbreak.

Seriously concerned about Spain though, can't believe how badly it's escalated there.

USA 10k +  new cases every day. I think they will be hit the worst. 

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3 hours ago, Vesper said:

'Healthy' 21-year-old dies after contracting coronavirus in UK

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/healthy-21-year-old-dies-17977959

Chloe Middleton's family have pleaded with people to stay at home and protect others after her tragic death

0_Chloe1.jpg

 

The family of a healthy 21-year-old woman who has died after contracting coronavirus have desperately urged others to stay at home.

Chloe Middleton's family took to social media to describe the "unimaginable pain" they are going through after her tragic death.

The young woman was described as healthy by her family who are urging people to strictly follow government measures to stay at home, the Mirror reports.

Mum Diane Middleton wrote on Facebook : “To all the people out there who think it's just a virus please think again.

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Young people don't listen. They are partying out in Florida and hitting the beaches in California. 

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On 3/24/2020 at 6:01 AM, Vesper said:

Pastor says only “sissies” & “pansies” wash their hands to prevent coronavirus

Christians who use hand sanitizer have "fake faith" and "no balls."
 

What a nutty, I bet he will be the first to catch a disease for tempting God and not obeying the authority, since the Bible says we must submit to the authorities. Need to respect the authority here and follow guidance. 

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24 minutes ago, 11Drogba said:

 

China’s Ban on Wildlife Trade a Big Step, but Has Loopholes, Conservationists Say

The coronavirus epidemic prompted China to permanently ban trade of wild animals as food, but not for medicinal use.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/27/science/coronavirus-pangolin-wildlife-ban-china.html

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No one noticed the information from the Chinese embassy between Christmas and Epiphany on 6th January. Johnson was having his extended toe suck on Mustique and the brexiteer gang were still hamming it large because, the tories had won.

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How the Pandemic Will End

The U.S. may end up with the worst COVID-19 outbreak in the industrialized world. This is how it’s going to play out.

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/03/how-will-coronavirus-end/608719/

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Three months ago, no one knew that SARS-CoV-2 existed. Now the virus has spread to almost every country, infecting at least 446,000 people whom we know about, and many more whom we do not. It has crashed economies and broken health-care systems, filled hospitals and emptied public spaces. It has separated people from their workplaces and their friends. It has disrupted modern society on a scale that most living people have never witnessed. Soon, most everyone in the United States will know someone who has been infected. Like World War II or the 9/11 attacks, this pandemic has already imprinted itself upon the nation’s psyche.

A global pandemic of this scale was inevitable. In recent years, hundreds of health experts have written books, white papers, and op-eds warning of the possibility. Bill Gates has been telling anyone who would listen, including the 18 million viewers of his TED Talk. In 2018, I wrote a story for The Atlantic arguing that America was not ready for the pandemic that would eventually come. In October, the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security war-gamed what might happen if a new coronavirus swept the globe. And then one did. Hypotheticals became reality. “What if?” became “Now what?”

So, now what? In the late hours of last Wednesday, which now feels like the distant past, I was talking about the pandemic with a pregnant friend who was days away from her due date. We realized that her child might be one of the first of a new cohort who are born into a society profoundly altered by COVID-19. We decided to call them Generation C.

As we’ll see, Gen C’s lives will be shaped by the choices made in the coming weeks, and by the losses we suffer as a result. But first, a brief reckoning. On the Global Health Security Index, a report card that grades every country on its pandemic preparedness, the United States has a score of 83.5—the world’s highest. Rich, strong, developed, America is supposed to be the readiest of nations. That illusion has been shattered. Despite months of advance warning as the virus spread in other countries, when America was finally tested by COVID-19, it failed.

“No matter what, a virus [like SARS-CoV-2] was going to test the resilience of even the most well-equipped health systems,” says Nahid Bhadelia, an infectious-diseases physician at the Boston University School of Medicine. More transmissible and fatal than seasonal influenza, the new coronavirus is also stealthier, spreading from one host to another for several days before triggering obvious symptoms. To contain such a pathogen, nations must develop a test and use it to identify infected people, isolate them, and trace those they’ve had contact with. That is what South Korea, Singapore, and Hong Kong did to tremendous effect. It is what the United States did not.

As my colleagues Alexis Madrigal and Robinson Meyer have reported, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention developed and distributed a faulty test in February. Independent labs created alternatives, but were mired in bureaucracy from the FDA. In a crucial month when the American caseload shot into the tens of thousands, only hundreds of people were tested. That a biomedical powerhouse like the U.S. should so thoroughly fail to create a very simple diagnostic test was, quite literally, unimaginable. “I’m not aware of any simulations that I or others have run where we [considered] a failure of testing,” says Alexandra Phelan of Georgetown University, who works on legal and policy issues related to infectious diseases.
 
The testing fiasco was the original sin of America’s pandemic failure, the single flaw that undermined every other countermeasure. If the country could have accurately tracked the spread of the virus, hospitals could have executed their pandemic plans, girding themselves by allocating treatment rooms, ordering extra supplies, tagging in personnel, or assigning specific facilities to deal with COVID-19 cases. None of that happened. Instead, a health-care system that already runs close to full capacity, and that was already challenged by a severe flu season, was suddenly faced with a virus that had been left to spread, untracked, through communities around the country. Overstretched hospitals became overwhelmed. Basic protective equipment, such as masks, gowns, and gloves, began to run out. Beds will soon follow, as will the ventilators that provide oxygen to patients whose lungs are besieged by the virus.

With little room to surge during a crisis, America’s health-care system operates on the assumption that unaffected states can help beleaguered ones in an emergency. That ethic works for localized disasters such as hurricanes or wildfires, but not for a pandemic that is now in all 50 states. Cooperation has given way to competition; some worried hospitals have bought out large quantities of supplies, in the way that panicked consumers have bought out toilet paper.

Partly, that’s because the White House is a ghost town of scientific expertise. A pandemic-preparedness office that was part of the National Security Council was dissolved in 2018. On January 28, Luciana Borio, who was part of that team, urged the government to “act now to prevent an American epidemic,” and specifically to work with the private sector to develop fast, easy diagnostic tests. But with the office shuttered, those warnings were published in The Wall Street Journal, rather than spoken into the president’s ear. Instead of springing into action, America sat idle.

Rudderless, blindsided, lethargic, and uncoordinated, America has mishandled the COVID-19 crisis to a substantially worse degree than what every health expert I’ve spoken with had feared. “Much worse,” said Ron Klain, who coordinated the U.S. response to the West African Ebola outbreak in 2014. “Beyond any expectations we had,” said Lauren Sauer, who works on disaster preparedness at Johns Hopkins Medicine. “As an American, I’m horrified,” said Seth Berkley, who heads Gavi, the Vaccine Alliance. “The U.S. may end up with the worst outbreak in the industrialized world.”

I. The Next Months

Having fallen behind, it will be difficult—but not impossible—for the United States to catch up. To an extent, the near-term future is set because COVID-19 is a slow and long illness. People who were infected several days ago will only start showing symptoms now, even if they isolated themselves in the meantime. Some of those people will enter intensive-care units in early April. As of last weekend, the nation had 17,000 confirmed cases, but the actual number was probably somewhere between 60,000 and 245,000. Numbers are now starting to rise exponentially: As of Wednesday morning, the official case count was 54,000, and the actual case count is unknown. Health-care workers are already seeing worrying signs: dwindling equipment, growing numbers of patients, and doctors and nurses who are themselves becoming infected.

Italy and Spain offer grim warnings about the future. Hospitals are out of room, supplies, and staff. Unable to treat or save everyone, doctors have been forced into the unthinkable: rationing care to patients who are most likely to survive, while letting others die. The U.S. has fewer hospital beds per capita than Italy. A study released by a team at Imperial College London concluded that if the pandemic is left unchecked, those beds will all be full by late April. By the end of June, for every available critical-care bed, there will be roughly 15 COVID-19 patients in need of one.  By the end of the summer, the pandemic will have directly killed 2.2 million Americans, notwithstanding those who will indirectly die as hospitals are unable to care for the usual slew of heart attacks, strokes, and car accidents. This is the worst-case scenario. To avert it, four things need to happen—and quickly.

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