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BlueTillIDie

Gonzalo Higuain

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Almost 32 Y / o, which in a year has been in a clear waning phase! do we want to be a pension for old gamers? take higuain would really be stupid !!!
Go all for Icardi,  we have only to pay his fuckin' clause! and he at long time (3-4 season) would be a bussiness much more better than higuain!!!

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Depends on the price tag. If he comes for Giroud money then it's obviously a great move, for anything above £25m it's a massive gamble on an ageing player

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this has shevchenko written all over it. you might argue Shevchenko was in way better shape and the serie still a better league back then. Will be an absolute catastrophe if we sell 25 y.o. Morata and 24 y.o. Batshuayi  and want to build our future on 30 y.o. Higuain and 32 y.o. Giroud. Good luck with that. and don't get to me with Tammy. He will never be even as good as Morata.

 

Higuain is the Fabregas of strikers. Should be at his peak at 30 but already has so much football in his bones due to starting at such an early age that he moves like an old man and his goalside contribution barely papers over the cracks.

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On one hand, he's a great striker. Great goals to games ratio, excellent technically, can hold the ball as well as carry it, can bring his teammates into play. Despite his chunky appearence he's actually quite mobile and nimble. Certainly an upgrade on Morata.

On the other hand, he's soon to be 31, will surely cost an absolute fortune, and doesn't appear to be in great physical shape now in his prime so how will he be in a few years? 

I definitely wouldn't say no to him because he'll score loads I think, but I'd much rather have Icardi.

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1 minute ago, Magic Lamps said:

this has shevchenko written all over it. you might argue Shevchenko was in way better shape and the serie still a better league back then. Will be an absolute catastrophe if we sell 25 y.o. Morata and 24 y.o. Batshuayi  and want to build our future on 30 y.o. Higuain and 32 y.o. Giroud. Good luck with that.

While i agree its not the best plan, if we get Sarri it is tough to say Higuain will be a disaster. Also it certainly opens the door for Tammy to learn and develop. If we were to swap Morata for Higuain I would really like if Batman would be kept. He genuinely wants to be here and showed a little bit at dortmund and always looks good for belgium. BUT lots of variables need to sort out before this becomes a reality.

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2 minutes ago, Pizy said:

On one hand, he's a great striker. Great goals to games ratio, excellent technically, can hold the ball as well as carry it, can bring his teammates into play. Despite his chunky appearence he's actually quite mobile and nimble. Certainly an upgrade on Morata.

On the other hand, he's soon to be 31, will surely cost an absolute fortune, and doesn't appear to be in great physical shape now in his prime so how will he be in a few years? 

I definitely wouldn't say no to him because he'll score loads I think, but I'd much rather have Icardi.

Icardi 100%, but the difference is I think this would be a straight swap Morata <--> Higuain whereas we would have to trigger the 110m Release clause for Icardi. (I would still prefer icardi, but thats not how chelsea operate. Although the same could be said for swapping a young asset for an old one)

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please don't be true... I can't wrap my head around the idea of swapping Higuain for Morata.. would rather keep Morata... only striker capable of trading Morata for is Icardi....

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On 7/6/2018 at 4:14 PM, !Hazard! said:

Depends on the price tag. If he comes for Giroud money then it's obviously a great move, for anything above £25m it's a massive gamble on an ageing player

cristiano ronaldo is an ageing player too?

imho the age of a player doesn't concern at all with his value. this policy of buying young players is a trend and a smart 

strategy of the owner, so he can sell the player and make money in future

 

 

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4 hours ago, Antonio8 said:

cristiano ronaldo is an ageing player too?

imho the age of a player doesn't concern at all with his value. this policy of buying young players is a trend and a smart 

strategy of the owner, so he can sell the player and make money in future

Agreed, we brought Zola, arguably the club's most beloved player at the age of 30. Key successes such as the Champions League relied on the likes of Ashley Cole, Lampard and Drogba pushing the team on well into their 30's.

Not every player needs buying with the idea that he is young and will develop at the club and have a good resale value attached to him. We could keep Morata but over the next 4 or 5 years he may never hit the heights that Higuain might hit in 1 year, and then you assess which would be more important.

At the moment Higuain is a better striker and goalscorer than Morata and 30 nowadays is not the end. He could easily perform well for 2-3 seasons which makes a move well worth it. It would remind me a bit of United's move for Van Persie (although I know it's not the exact same situation), looking to get the last peak season or two out of him in an effort to guarantee us goals.

I would though still be surprised at a move due to the club's policy on 30 and over, although they gave some leeway to Giroud on this and that turned out well so they may have softened their stance somewhat.

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30 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said:

At the moment Higuain is a better striker and goalscorer than Morata.

Not by much. 

 

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32 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said:

Agreed, we brought Zola, arguably the club's most beloved player at the age of 30. Key successes such as the Champions League relied on the likes of Ashley Cole, Lampard and Drogba pushing the team on well into their 30's.

Not every player needs buying with the idea that he is young and will develop at the club and have a good resale value attached to him. We could keep Morata but over the next 4 or 5 years he may never hit the heights that Higuain might hit in 1 year, and then you assess which would be more important.

At the moment Higuain is a better striker and goalscorer than Morata and 30 nowadays is not the end. He could easily perform well for 2-3 seasons which makes a move well worth it. It would remind me a bit of United's move for Van Persie (although I know it's not the exact same situation), looking to get the last peak season or two out of him in an effort to guarantee us goals.

I would though still be surprised at a move due to the club's policy on 30 and over, although they gave some leeway to Giroud on this and that turned out well so they may have softened their stance somewhat.

Whereas I would prefer a younger lad like Icardi I dont mind us buying a 30+ player neither. But they are a HOPEFULLY quick fix.

Contracts mean nothing nowadays and players just use clubs as stepping stones. So while its good if a player sees his contract out theres many times they dont.

The only downside to a 30+ is no resale. But buy someone like Lewa or Higuain and at least we SHOULD be able to get 20+ goals from them for 3 seasons or so.

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57 minutes ago, pHaRaOn said:

Not by much. 

 

Yes but am i right in interpreting that as he scored 21 goals with only 15 expected goals? 

I just feel the guilt edged chances that morata missed last season, someone like higuain scores most of those and those missed points get us top 4. 

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17 minutes ago, Special Juan said:

 

GUESSING that translates as we put a 60mill euro offer in for Higuain and Rugani???

I'd be happy with both but just dont see our board will think twice about Higuain at price/age.

Same as Sarri wants Martens like Conte did. Just wont happen,

 

Juventus-Chelsea, agreement for Higuain

The Pipita ready to move to London for 60 million euros: the official after the arrival of Sarri

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=it&u=http://www.sportmediaset.mediaset.it/mercato/juventus/juventus-chelsea-accordo-per-higuain_1223537-201802a.shtml&prev=search

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I think Sarri can get goals out of Morata.  Higuain's numbers never looked as good as when he was playing under Sarri.

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Just now, Sideshow Luiz said:

I think Sarri can get goals out of Morata.  Higuain's numbers never looked as good as when he was playing under Sarri.

But HE WILL be playing under Sarri lolAnd APPARENTLY agreements made

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So many variables here to consider, these are just the main ones:

1) We need to get Sarri confirmed before this even becomes a hint of reality, this is obvious.

2) Would we really swap Morata at his age and price for Higuain? I have my doubts, goes against how we do business. I have no doubts about Higuain as a player, i think he would bang goals in the PL for fun especially in a system he thrived in.

3) Could someone else offer us more money for Morata which we would then flip the majority of for Higuain and pocket the rest? Could be likely, but I still do not see Chelsea paying 50+ for an older striker no matter WHO the coach wants.

 

Unless we receive some batshit offer for Morata, i just do not see the club giving up on a record signing who is 5 years younger than the new target. 

 

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