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DavidEU

10. Eden Hazard

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8 minutes ago, communicate said:

Good minutes. Clearly our best player. In 10 minutes it is enough to show everyone that.

Leciester players were afrraid to tackle him. Still lack a bit of sharpness though

 

He looked a bit port too. Haha. 

Maybe it is the white kit, but hopefully he burns that off season fat off and can turn on the jets in those tight spaces to score some awesome goals. He did look great today though. His touch and tight ball control are something else. Not just in comparison to players in our team or league, but almost any player in the world. 

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I was crying out for him to shoot after he dribble through the middle at one point. I'm not sure if it's his mentality or he's been coached that way, but he really needs to shoot more often instead of being unselfish.

Hopes he can become more selfish and just shoot when it opens up, Pedro is the exact opposite of him in that department. 

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10 minutes ago, zakhov said:

I was crying out for him to shoot after he dribble through the middle at one point. I'm not sure if it's his mentality or he's been coached that way, but he really needs to shoot more often instead of being unselfish.

Hopes he can become more selfish and just shoot when it opens up, Pedro is the exact opposite of him in that department. 

Shut up.  Please just stop it. He could have had 2 assists in 10 mins after breaking his ankle. Get real and stop moaning like a child because Hazard is not a perfect player. Who is, every player has flaws. This isn't FIFA or some video game, it's real life. Hazard rarely shoots from long range because his long range shooting is not that good. It's common sense.

Seriously, some of you have serious issues.

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33 minutes ago, MrExcalibur100 said:

Shut up.  Please just stop it. He could have had 2 assists in 10 mins after breaking his ankle. Get real and stop moaning like a child because Hazard is not a perfect player. Who is, every player has flaws. This isn't FIFA or some video game, it's real life. Hazard rarely shoots from long range because his long range shooting is not that good. It's common sense.

Seriously, some of you have serious issues.

FFS, I wasn't whining about his performance but I was just pointing out it would serve him better to be more selfish.
Seriously, Pedro shoots when he's not supposed to while Hazard should be entitled to shoot more.

It's not just about 10 minute cameo, I've based it from watching him week in week out with us before he got injured. And why bring up the FIFA comparison? I don't even play FIFA. 

Even Cesc has pointed out last season that it would serve him better to be more selfish sometimes like other top players.

Seriously, you need to get a grip, you're the one with issues reading.

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13 minutes ago, zakhov said:

FFS, I wasn't whining about his performance but I was just pointing out it would serve him better to be more selfish.
Seriously, Pedro shoots when he's not supposed to while Hazard should be entitled to shoot more.

It's not just about 10 minute cameo, I've based it from watching him week in week out with us before he got injured. And why bring up the FIFA comparison? I don't even play FIFA. 

Even Cesc has pointed out last season that it would serve him better to be more selfish sometimes like other top players.

Seriously, you need to get a grip, you're the one with issues reading.

If Hazard shot more he'd score more but at the same time become a lesser player. I have never been a fan of speculative shooting, even shots on the edge of the box are more likely to come to nothing than something.On the odd occasion fine, but taking to many low percentage shots is infuriating to watch and murders good attack's. 

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55 minutes ago, MrExcalibur100 said:

Shut up.  Please just stop it. He could have had 2 assists in 10 mins after breaking his ankle. Get real and stop moaning like a child because Hazard is not a perfect player. Who is, every player has flaws. This isn't FIFA or some video game, it's real life. Hazard rarely shoots from long range because his long range shooting is not that good. It's common sense.

Seriously, some of you have serious issues.

His long range shooting is good. He has scored some spectacular goals form long range with his left and right foot whilst with us. Also some of his shots form range have good power and often have just been saved. But he is just such an unselfish player and shoots when he feels the right time is. No doubt though that he could shoot more and I would encourage it myself just because I know he is capable of getting a lot more goals.

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8 minutes ago, Tomo said:

If Hazard shot more he'd score more but at the same time become a lesser player. I have never been a fan of speculative shooting, even shots on the edge of the box are more likely to come to nothing than something.On the odd occasion fine, but taking to many low percentage shots is infuriating to watch and murders good attack's. 

I agree, but there are some moments throughout his time with us where he's done all the hard work, could shoot at the moment but goes for a teammate instead.

When we signed him, he was pretty much the leading man at Lille and he did score some cracking screamers in his debut season with us. So he's definitely capable, no doubt about it.


Being unselfish is one of his better qualities as a player and a teammate but he should have a selfish streak sometimes. He's entitled to it after all.
Agreed that we don't want him to go for the speculative shoots often, but just when it opens up for him.

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Just now, Stats said:

His long range shooting is good. He has scored some spectacular goals form long range with his left and right foot whilst with us. Also some of his shots form range have good power and often have just been saved. But he is just such an unselfish player and shoots when he feels the right time is. No doubt though that he could shoot more and I would encourage it myself just because I know he is capable of getting a lot more goals.

It's not good. The long range goals he's scores are either speculative (Stoke away with his left foot, Hull away) or when he was running from certain angles (Hull City away 2013/14, goal vs Burnley, vs Hungary at Euros)

Believe me I know what I'm talking about. That is by far the weakest part of his game followed by his corner kicks). Seriously he's played about 250 games for us already. This should be obvious.

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28 minutes ago, zakhov said:

FFS, I wasn't whining about his performance but I was just pointing out it would serve him better to be more selfish.
Seriously, Pedro shoots when he's not supposed to while Hazard should be entitled to shoot more.

It's not just about 10 minute cameo, I've based it from watching him week in week out with us before he got injured. And why bring up the FIFA comparison? I don't even play FIFA. 

Even Cesc has pointed out last season that it would serve him better to be more selfish sometimes like other top players.

Seriously, you need to get a grip, you're the one with issues reading.

You're taking shit because Pedro is actually better than Hazard at shooting. Much better. It's like wondering why Pedro can't dribble past 4 or 5 players at once like Hazard can. It's a moot point to make at this point to anyone with even an oata of common sense. Hazard can be unselfish sometimes (that is hardly saying anything revolutionary) but criticizing him for it in that instance he chooses not to shoot on sight is stupid. He had jus had a dribbling moment and the ball was probably still stuck under his foot. If he shot from there it will most likely have gone way over the bar.

Congratulations for turning the Hazard page into why didn't he shoot on one occassion (after he just recovered from a fucking leg break no less). 

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1 minute ago, MrExcalibur100 said:

It's not good. The long range goals he's scores are either speculative (Stoke away with his left foot, Hull away) or when he was running from certain angles (Hull City away 2013/14, goal vs Burnley, vs Hungary at Euros)

Believe me I know what I'm talking about. That is by far the weakest part of his game followed by his corner kicks). Seriously he's played about 250 games for us already. This should be obvious.

Problem is I'm not just referring to his long range shots, I mentioned he should shoot more when it opens up for him rather look for a teammate. 

It means that he's in a good position to shoot but doesn't, could be inside the box or just outside the box.

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7 minutes ago, zakhov said:

Problem is I'm not just referring to his long range shots, I mentioned he should shoot more when it opens up for him rather look for a teammate. 

It means that he's in a good position to shoot but doesn't, could be inside the box or just outside the box.

Even when it opens for him to shoot it's still a bad idea because his long range shooting is not that good. So why even mention it in *that* instance? 

 

14 minutes ago, zakhov said:

I agree, but there are some moments throughout his time with us where he's done all the hard work, could shoot at the moment but goes for a teammate instead.

When we signed him, he was pretty much the leading man at Lille and he did score some cracking screamers in his debut season with us. So he's definitely capable, no doubt about it.


Being unselfish is one of his better qualities as a player and a teammate but he should have a selfish streak sometimes. He's entitled to it after all.
Agreed that we don't want him to go for the speculative shoots often, but just when it opens up for him.

What the fuck are you on about here. See this is the problem Zakhov.The bolded part is video game esque ignorance with all due respect mate. Do you know how extraordinary it is to have the ability to dribble past 3 or 4 players consistently within a single stride? Then you expect him to get the ball out of his feet so quickly and then have an accurate shot on goal. That's lunacy. Nobody can do that in football. Not in the history of football. Except maybe Messi. Very few players in the history of football possess the talent Hazard does. Stop complaining about what you think he isn't doing right (which is mostly unfounded). Can he be more selfish sometimes, yes. But lets focus on what can make us better as a team not what you think *might* make Hazard a better player and it won't since his long range shooting is not great (except when he's running with the ball from certain angles). 

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9 minutes ago, MrExcalibur100 said:

You're taking shit because Pedro is actually better than Hazard at shooting. Much better. It's like wondering why Pedro can't dribble past 4 or 5 players at once like Hazard can. It's a moot point to make at this point to anyone with even an oata of common sense. Hazard can be unselfish sometimes (that is hardly saying anything revolutionary) but criticizing him for it in that instance he chooses not to shoot on sight is stupid. He had jus had a dribbling moment and the ball was probably still stuck under his foot. If he shot from there it will most likely have gone way over the bar.

Congratulations for turning the Hazard page into why didn't he shoot on one occassion (after he just recovered from a fucking leg break no less). 

Pedro more often than not skies his shots as well but he could hit the odd screamer undeniably. Doesn't mean Hazard should shoot less.

You have severe problems  with reading comprehension, I'm not whining nor criticising him for not shooting. I'm not entitled to wish him to score on his comeback as a fan?
I said I was crying out for him to shoot and I WISH he would shoot more in those moments. I'm not pissed nor am I unhappy that he didn't. I just want him to be more selfish and if he doesn't, that's fine as long as he performs.

You probably should put me in ignore if you don't like my posts. Not sure what ticked you off initially as I thought my initial comment was pretty harmless.

I'm through explaining myself.

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Just now, zakhov said:

Pedro more often than not skies his shots as well but he could hit the odd screamer undeniably. Doesn't mean Hazard should shoot less.

You have severe reading comprehension, I'm not whining nor criticising him for not shooting. I'm not entitled to wish him to score on his comeback as a fan?
I said I was crying out for him to shoot and I WISH he would shoot more in those moments. I'm not pissed nor am I unhappy that he didn't. I just want him to be more selfish and if he doesn't, that's fine as long as he performs.

You probably should put me in ignore if you don't like my posts. Not sure what ticked you off initially as I thought my initial comment was pretty harmless.

I'm through explaining myself.

Hazard can't shoot as well as Pedro does so doesn't take as many shots and taking shots just for the sake of it instead of applying his quality to the team (as thankfully he does) won't make us better as a team. No one gives a fuck is Hazard is not satisfying your outrageous demands at this point. 2 league titles in 3 years. Best player on both title winning teams. Chelsea legend already. Loyal. What the fuck else do you want from one man? He dribbles past 4 players and then doesn't score a 25 yard screamer afterwards? Do you know how ridiculous you sound? Make up your mind, if Hazard is helping us win titles, I don't give a fuck if he isn't firing at will from 25 yards. 

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Just now, MrExcalibur100 said:

Hazard can't shoot as well as Pedro does so doesn't take as many shots and taking shots just for the sake of it instead of applying his quality to the team (as thankfully he does) won't make us better as a team. No one gives a fuck is Hazard is not satisfying your outrageous demands at this point. 2 league titles in 3 years. Best player on both title winning teams. Chelsea legend already. Loyal. What the fuck else do you want from one man? He dribbles past 4 players and then doesn't score a 25 yard screamer afterwards? Do you know how ridiculous you sound? Make up your mind, if Hazard is helping us win titles, I don't give a fuck if he isn't firing at will from 25 yards. 

Whatever mate. We just won a match and you're spending more time ranting about my rather harmless post.

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13 minutes ago, zakhov said:

Whatever mate. We just won a match and you're spending more time ranting about my rather harmless post.

Was it really? So harmless that you were almost in tears (your words) he didn't shoot? 

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Just now, MrExcalibur100 said:

You're the one who hijacked the thread moaning about irrelevant shite because Hazard didn't shoot from 25 yards after dribbling past 4 players after just recovering from an ankle break. Next game you'll moan about how he didn't score from the opposition half. It's crazy. Maybe you've become spoiled with greatness and no longer live in the real world. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Make_a_mountain_out_of_a_molehill

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8 minutes ago, zakhov said:

You're the one who did this with your initial post. Seriously if you posted that on RedCafe or RAWK, you'll get mocked and slaughtered.

You're the one who hijacked the thread moaning about irrelevant shite because Hazard didn't shoot from 25 yards after dribbling past 4 players after just recovering from an ankle break. Next game you'll moan about how he didn't score from the opposition half. It's crazy. Maybe you've become spoiled with greatness and no longer live in the real world.

And your initial post wasn't harmless. It was a big moan about you "crying" because Hazard didn't shoot and even questioning the possibility of a problem with his mentality. Yeah let's question the mentality of a guy who put a blunt, tiring team on his back and carried that team to a league title in the 2nd half of the 2014/15 season. Or  after all the absolutely insane slander he got from the 2015/16 season they all questioned his mentalilty and see how he responded. We as Chelsea fans should know better. I don't see how any Chelsea fan can ever question anything about this particular player. Maybe I'm just a hopeless fanboy but Eden has won my heart and I have a whole lot of respect for him as a player and a person.  

Some of you sound like parents who live through their children and then expect them to live up to outrageous expectations. Hazard is the only player on this forum whose game still gets scrutinized after performances, regardless of how he well plays. No other player gets this shit. Maybe I'm just insane or something but it's getting mad. Jesus wept. 

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Just now, MrExcalibur100 said:

You're the one who did this with your initial post. Seriously if you posted that on RedCafe or RAWK, you'll get mocked and slaughtered.

You're the one who hijacked the thread moaning about irrelevant shite because Hazard didn't shoot from 25 yards after dribbling past 4 players after just recovering from an ankle break. Next game you'll moan about how he didn't score from the opposition half. It's crazy. Maybe you've become spoiled with greatness and no longer live in the real world.

And your initial post wasn't harmless. It was a big moan about you "crying" because Hazard didn't shoot and even questioning the possibility of a problem with his mentality. Yeah let's question the mentality of a guy who put a blunt, tiring team on his back and carried that team to a league title in the 2nd half of the 2014/15 season. Or  after all the absolutely insane slander he got from the 2015/16 season they all questioned his mentalilty and see how he responded. We as Chelsea fans should know better. I don't see how any Chelsea fan can ever question anything about this particular player. Maybe I'm just a hopeless fanboy but Eden has won my heart and I have a whole lot of respect for him as a player and a person.  

Some of you sound like parents who live through their children and then expect them to live up to outrageous expectations. Hazard is the only player on this forum whose game still gets scrutinized after performances, regardless of how he well plays. No other player gets this shit. Maybe I'm just insane or something but it's getting mad. Jesus wept. 

Seriously mate, just put me in ignore. If my posts when I'm not actually whining or moaning about our players bother you this much..

I'm afraid of what it will do to your blood pressure when I do actually whine and moan about our players...

We just won a match today and the players came out unscathed but from the way you're posting it's as if we just lost 4-0 and lost Hazard for the season because he broke his leg through shooting from distance...

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Lmao at this thread complete pointless argument you have just had . He should do this this n that. Let hazard do what hazard does best and BE hazard, I dont want him to change nothing about his game.

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59 minutes ago, BluesMadLad said:

Lmao at this thread complete pointless argument you have just had . He should do this this n that. Let hazard do what hazard does best and BE hazard, I dont want him to change nothing about his game.

I was only expressing an opinion, I didn't realize it was going to provoke such a strong response.

What harm does a meager opinion on a football forum would do for a top footballer? I'm not even attacking or moaning/whinging at him for not doing this or that.

I just thought it would do him better if he would be more selfish in those situations, it's just wishful thinking on my part...end of story.

But agreed, I probably could've just let it slide after the first response I got. .
It was indeed a pointless argument...circle jerk and all that... 

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