Official - AVB confirmed as Chelsea boss

[Jose M 140]

Bookies have Villas-Boas much higher on the list than I thought after all of his comments about sticking with Porto, maybe they know something we don't. I think it will be van Basten.

Music to my ears Bookies always know somthing extra. What are the odds exactly?

[Guest justin_3d]

Perhaps Roman isn't seeking for CL, but to build something for the long term ?

Long term??

So to get a coach that is lesser then Carlo is building for long term?

[Guest justin_3d]

I've posted this before about Van Basten; he didn't win one single game outside of the first round in either the Euro or World Cup. He has only managed one season at the club level. That was with Ajax and not only did he not win the league with the most storied Dutch club, he couldn't even get them into the Champions League.

I'm ambivalent about Carlo's departure but MVB doesn't inspire much hope. I agree that the positive is he will likely be happy to remold the club. I think this is absolutely necessary. The problem is that he hasn't actually shown he can win.

Exactly what i been saying. He does shows he can bring in youth, but so can Marcelo Bielsa. And he has shown more then Van Basten.

Getting him will show our club is totally run by fools.

[Henrique 9,133]

Long term??

So to get a coach that is lesser then Carlo is building for long term?

mate, after all these topics and months of discussion about Carlo you still come with "lesser coach than Ancelotti" argument ?

[Rambo 1,729]

I believe only Avram Grant would want to take this position.

[Guest justin_3d]

mate, after all these topics and months of discussion about Carlo you still come with "lesser coach than Ancelotti" argument ?

Lesser coach, by the success they had.

Van Basten has not done nothing great. Carlo has, and even Bielsa has done better then Van Basten.

[Peace. 4,352]

Long term??

So to get a coach that is lesser then Carlo is building for long term?

That wasn't my point, not at all. I wanted to mean that "say goodbye to CL glory" wasn't an end... I mean give up the UCL next year isn't a bad thing, because if we want to build a long term team, to want and to expect to win the UCL would be a bad thing... I do not know if I explain well my view...

But anyway, i'm gonna to answer to that question :

Yes.

First off all, and that's my opinion, Carlo hasn't the abilities required to be a long term manager.

Then, a coach who is a long term coach, even if he is not better than Carlo, will probably do a better job than him.

Finally, a coach like Van Basten is young, so he isn't a finished product. So he could grow up as the team grow up. Know what I mean ?

[Guest justin_3d]

That wasn't my point, not at all. I wanted to mean that "say goodbye to CL glory" wasn't an end... I mean give up the UCL next year isn't a bad thing, because if we want to build a long term team, to want and to expect to win the UCL would be a bad thing... I do not know if I explain well my view...

But anyway, i'm gonna to answer to that question :

Yes.

First off all, and that's my opinion, Carlo hasn't the abilities required to be a long term manager.

Then, a coach who is a long term coach, even if he is not better than Carlo, will probably do a better job than him.

Finally, a coach like Van Basten is young, so he isn't a finished product. So he could grow up as the team grow up. Know what I mean ?

Nope.

Why get a coach that has done nothing, when you might as well risk it on Villa-Boas, Pep, and even my fav. Bielsa.

Van Basten has got nothing on them.

There is a reason why he did not do nothing with Ajax.....

[Eluwande Yomi 15]

According to reports, after June 4th Hiddink would become director of football, then van basten 2 become coach!

[Styles 9,790]

I think Justin is Bielsa.

[Guest justin_3d]

According to reports, after June 4th Hiddink would become director of football, then van basten 2 become coach!

Stupid club.

Watch how Henrique, Styles, Spuds, and kilamnjaro will be saying sack this guy in a couple of months!

[Styles 9,790]

Stupid club.

Watch how Henrique, Styles, Spuds, and kilamnjaro will be saying sack this guy in a couple of months!

:goodpost:

Ifwhoever takes the job proves to be as clueless as Ancelotti I won't hesitate to ask for his dismissal.

[Peace. 4,352]

Nope.

Why get a coach that has done nothing, when you might as well risk it on Villa-Boas, Pep, and even my fav. Bielsa.

Van Basten has got nothing on them.

There is a reason why he did not do nothing with Ajax.....

Lol ! You make me say what I didn't say.

I ain't backing Van Basten or whatsoever. I know fuck all about what he has done. I am just saying that a coach lesser good than Carlo won't necesseraly do a worst job.

[eldo 868]

I've posted this before about Van Basten; he didn't win one single game outside of the first round in either the Euro or World Cup. He has only managed one season at the club level. That was with Ajax and not only did he not win the league with the most storied Dutch club, he couldn't even get them into the Champions League.

I'm ambivalent about Carlo's departure but MVB doesn't inspire much hope. I agree that the positive is he will likely be happy to remold the club. I think this is absolutely necessary. The problem is that he hasn't actually shown he can win.

I was surprised with what Frank de Boer did with Ajax this season.

[Waterfall 893]

Marco lacks experience and any succes. Only Chelsea-men should get the chance to manage Chelsea without those things.

I disagree. Look at guys like Ancelotti, Mourinho, Villas-Boas and Guardiola when they first won their European cup. They weren't considered world-class managers then. I think right now we are too concerned with the candidate's resumes that we are passing up some great managers who simply never had the chance/squad to have much success. I'd rather hire an up-and-coming manager who's never won a trophy than a guy like Scolari who did but was terrible. I really believe that what's helped create this mess is that attitude that thinks we are too big of a club to take risk with managers.

Now I'm not saying we should hire Van Basten, but the fact that he's never won a trophy is not a huge concern for me.

[St Abramovich 175]

Music to my ears Bookies always know somthing extra. What are the odds exactly?

SkyBet has it at 2/1

[Peace. 4,352]

Stupid club.

Watch how Henrique, Styles, Spuds, and killamanjaro will be saying sack this guy in a couple of months!

You're absolutely wrong mate. I won't ask for our next manager to be sacked in a couple month... I'm already asking for his sack right now

[Styles 9,790]

You're absolutely wrong mate. I won't ask for our next manager to be sacked in a couple month... I'm already asking for his sack right now

[Guest justin_3d]

You're absolutely wrong mate. I won't ask for our next manager to be sacked in a couple month... I'm already asking for his sack right now

Well whatever.

In the past I only back a new manager as long he breeds new blood. I am willing to loose trophies at the cost of youth a la Wenger.

So if this Van Basten guy can bring in more youth, then i will be happy.

And if the club let him work so he can bring more youth regardless of not winning anything, then i will say, ok this is a long term project.

But if they do it again like Carlo, then there will be no point in anything no more with this club.

[Henrique 9,133]

I think Justin is Bielsa.

LMAO, indeed. At least both are crazy.