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3 hours ago, Special Juan said:

Liverpool were fabulous, took the game to a City side who are actually beatable despite popular belief.

Press high, work hard and you win games.

City were dreadful. Worse passing and retaining of the ball I've seen from them all season. Not to mention the mistakes that led to at least 2 of Liverpool's goals. Liverpool played well, but they were also the fresher team of the two. City were poor. Aguero is shot, he hasn't got the legs any more, they were missing G.Jesus up top badly. We all knew City were beatable though, they have been fortunate in a few games previously, and vs Crystal Palace they could have lost it. Unfortunately, we have been even worse and haven't capitalised when given the opportunity. 

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3 hours ago, BlueLyon said:

Yes we could play more entertaining indeed.

But when you read and hear everywhere how quality is stones and otamendi and fernandinho, and then you see them roasted when they get under pressure, I laugh at city. 

So much for world class defenders. One gets outmucled by firmino like a doll and the other two agression freaks with zero composure when under pressure. 

Dont let their attack decive you how poor they actualy are when they are 1v1 or under pressure. 

Bunch of pretenders. Where is the football when top top teams actualy had quality players like Vieira, Scholes, Ferdinand,...

Remember this City will get spanked by either Barca, Bayern, Psg, Juve or even maybe Real althrough they are shit. 

Beating evertons and and west hams is one thing when they chicken out before the game starts and oppisition makes city players play the most comfortable way. 

Top teams will press the shit out of them and I look forward for the rape of Otamendi Stones and whoever pep throws because they while being good footballers are average defenders at best. 

I can see Spurs beating Juventus and Real getting beat by PSG, so that only leaves Barca, Bayern and PSG to beat City. Maybe it will be a Liverpool vs City final haha. Oh god! I dread. 

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Don’t have anyone in particular to quote, but I pretty much disagree with the majority of the posts around city-Liverpool game.

City and Guardiola style of play is a choice, nothing more nothing less. When well executed it can be very effective especially in long championships, but less so in single-elimination competitions.

Pressing high or defending deep have worked well against this system,  but that does not make it a bad system, just a choice that uses possession as a form of defense.

of course defense and defenders are more exposed in this system! You are far more dependent on possession and if you don’t keep the football (like city couldn’t bc of pressing or sloppy play - Fernandinho) you will be attacked and this system is more vulnerable to attacks - it needs to see less of it to work.

you just can’t have it both ways. As you focus on attack and play a more open game you expose your defense. Liverpool also conceded 3 goals at home. There is no rule that says your defenders will physically win every dispute esp if you pick skillful defenders that better fit your system (again a choice).

I hope the folks asking for a more attacking approach are prepared to live with less defensive solidly, because that's the cost of it.

 Btw, still think Fernandinho is a lousy midfielder. :)

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6 hours ago, It's too big said:

I can see Spurs beating Juventus and Real getting beat by PSG, so that only leaves Barca, Bayern and PSG to beat City. Maybe it will be a Liverpool vs City final haha. Oh god! I dread. 

Why would you ever joke about it!! Just imagine.

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21 minutes ago, Beigl said:

People still think we will finish over Utd in the league? They might not be much better than us, but they have the firepower to overcome small teams. 

Nahhhhh. Hopefully finish 3rd...but way we're going it's slide time... If we finish  below Spurs... 

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6 hours ago, Beigl said:

People still think we will finish over Utd in the league? They might not be much better than us, but they have the firepower to overcome small teams. 

We were never finishing above the top 2, they are a class above us. A Bakayoko hat-trick against Barcelona would be more realistic.

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Didn't watch the game, despise United. Saw the goals on SKY this morning and their wank fest over Pogba.....I also saw a Tweet salivating saying his 90M now looks a bargain, well I have some news for you.....N'Golo Kante.

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