The Big Drog 1,110 Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 And by the same token, ask Alex Pato why you're at it.We can all be selective with our arguments.Yes we can but I bet you can probably find more examples of Ancelotti not developing young players into proper starting 11 players than you can find of him doing it. I mean the AC Milan side (before their recent investmenr )where the vast majority were members of Ancelotti's squad during his 8 year tenure were a living, breathing testament to that fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spuz 143 Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 Big Drog I agree with everything you say.Remember the bottlers Arsenal and the terrible season they've had? Well they're a measly 3 points below us,despite us spending £100m since last summer.It's just not good enough, but Roman isn't daft and can probably see the problem we have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldo 868 Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 Look. You are expecting young players, who just started to play first team football, to be in the starting 11. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZanSnake 1,211 Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 Ask Yoann Gourcuff how that stability of Ancelotti aided his AC Milan career.And ask Roman how much he has invested to make the academy and the youth system one of the best in the world?I don't think Roman is someone who will want to see his investments go down the drain, especially with the reported £300 million invested for the youth, and i think he would be wanting to see it at work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neel 257 Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 And ask Roman how much he has invested to make the academy and the youth system one of the best in the world?I don't think Roman is someone who will want to see his investments go down the drain, especially with the reported £300 million invested for the youth, and i think he would be wanting to see it at work.and for the same reason he won't be happy with Carlo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZanSnake 1,211 Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 and for the same reason he won't be happy with CarloYes, but i am hoping that Roman still has some little faith in Carlo. It doesn't really matter what we think, it's all about the big man's decision. But, like i said, you can only hope Roman chooses the right decision, and leads the club in the right direction, unlike that summer.(Releasing players and not getting any cover for the wholes in the team.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinineUltra 1,170 Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 Yes we can but I bet you can probably find more examples of Ancelotti not developing young players into proper starting 11 players than you can find of him doing it. I mean the AC Milan side (before their recent investmenr )where the vast majority were members of Ancelotti's squad during his 8 year tenure were a living, breathing testament to that fact.But that's life, i want to be a footballer but im too shit, no Ancelotti nor Mourinho can mould me into a profilic football star. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace. 4,352 Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 I think some people here misunderstand the motivations for which some of us want Ancelotti to be sacked. I don't know if here I speak for every single person who want such a thing, but I'm gonna try to clarify a point.If I - and I think some other - want an other coach for next season, it is not because we end up trophyless or because we failed in 1/4 in the Champions League. Even if we would have won today and thus win the League, I would still be for Carlo out.If he has to go, it is because of the way we end up trophyless, the way we played throughout the season, and because of his youth involvement record.Some members (The Big Drog, for instance) have already well explained the reasons for which we should change our manager, and I also have already explained it. So, as I ain't in a good mood, I won't explain those reasons again, lol. I just wanted to make it clear that the motivation wasn't about trophy(ies). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 I think some people here misunderstand the motivations for which some of us want Ancelotti to be sacked. I don't know if here I speak for every single person who want such a thing, but I'm gonna try to clarify a point.If I - and I think some other - want an other coach for next season, it is not because we end up trophyless or because we failed in 1/4 in the Champions League. Even if we would have won today and thus win the League, I would still be for Carlo out.If he has to go, it is because of the way we end up trophyless, the way we played throughout the season, and because of his youth involvement record.Some members (The Big Drog, for instance) have already well explained the reasons for which we should change our manager, and I also have already explained it. So, as I ain't in a good mood, I won't explain those reasons again, lol. I just wanted to make it clear that the motivation wasn't about trophy(ies).Remind me please who you want? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spuz 143 Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 I think some people here misunderstand the motivations for which some of us want Ancelotti to be sacked. I don't know if here I speak for every single person who want such a thing, but I'm gonna try to clarify a point.If I - and I think some other - want an other coach for next season, it is not because we end up trophyless or because we failed in 1/4 in the Champions League. Even if we would have won today and thus win the League, I would still be for Carlo out.If he has to go, it is because of the way we end up trophyless, the way we played throughout the season, and because of his youth involvement record.Some members (The Big Drog, for instance) have already well explained the reasons for which we should change our manager, and I also have already explained it. So, as I ain't in a good mood, I won't explain those reasons again, lol. I just wanted to make it clear that the motivation wasn't about trophy(ies).:goodpost: I'm the same. I look at the bigger picture,not just at a trophy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldo 868 Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 Some people still don't understand. Making a player is like building a house. It takes time. Sometimes it takes few months, sometimes year or more.It takes time for a young promising player to become a player you expect him to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace. 4,352 Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 Remind me please who you want?As our manager you mean ?Well, I'm not well aware of all managers out there, so... But I can tell you what kind of manager I want. First of all, to my mind it's the most important thing, I want a manager with fresh ideas and who plays a modern football. Then, I want a manager who is able to introduce youth into the first team. That doesn't mean I want a team like Arsenal, but I want a manager who could do the same with the young player,just as Ferguson and Guardiola are doing. And finaly, I want a coach who inspires his players, who isn't worried to bench the big names and who makes his team play his very own playing style.Basicly, I would like someone of the likes of Guardiola, Boas, or even Jürgen Klopp (Dortmund's coach). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 As our manager you mean ?Well, I'm not well aware of all managers out there, so... But I can tell you what kind of manager I want. First of all, to my mind it's the most important thing, I want a manager with fresh ideas and who plays a modern football. Then, I want a manager who is able to introduce youth into the first team. That doesn't mean I want a team like Arsenal, but I want a manager who could do the same with the young player,just as Ferguson and Guardiola are doing. And finaly, I want a coach who inspires his players, who isn't worried to bench the big names and who makes his team play his very own playing style.Basicly, I would like someone of the likes of Guardiola, Boas, or even Jürgen Klopp (Dortmund's coach).thanks for replying ,,I wasnt being sarcastic ..Pep is a non starter tho ,,,and think Boas is the flavour of the month ,,Know very little about Kloppexcept he has very little experience of managing at the top level Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,570 Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 Ancelotti NEED TO STAY.We need to give him 1 year,last opportunity to prove his name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 Nothing official, but there are rumors that Ancelotti was sacked, and an official statement can be made in next hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 Nothing official, but there are rumors that Ancelotti was sacked, and an official statement can be made in next hours.Source? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,535 Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 Surley gotta be crap..whats the point in that?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 Source?João Castelo Branco, a brazilian journalist whos been living in London for 21 years. He works for ESPN Brasil, in fact he said that the board will communicate Carlo of its decision, but an official statement might wait 2 weeks ( when the season ends ). His fate was sealed even before the match.Lets see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 Nothing official, but there are rumors that Ancelotti was sacked, and an official statement can be made in next hours.Stop stirring trouble Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldo 868 Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 That doesn't mean I want a team like Arsenal, but I want a manager who could do the same with the young player,just as Ferguson and Guardiola are doing. Barca B are playing in Spanish lower leagues. 2-4 tier. Chelsea reserves are playing some joke reserve league.Thiago Alcantara played 15 games, just like Josh. Bartra, Montoya, Muniesa... have less than 5 games overall.Could you imagine our young players having 46 games in Championship or League Two to play for their own club. How their own club wants them to play, not some different club with their own problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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