zolayes 14,489 Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 I don't know why I love seeing Barcelona loosing....great technique in the finish from Pique! :lol:you spoke too soon ..Barca given a gift and Messi takes it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
termninja 5,290 Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 Bielsa. Nice work.Shame Bilbao didn't win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 you spoke too soon ..Barca given a gift and Messi takes itYeah Bilboa totally wasted the win. But still Barcelona didn't win, and they're 3 points behind Real Madrid, I'm not too upset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmin 2,484 Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 I think this will be Real's season in Spain. Think & want, actually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blauw 105 Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Im happy that Real is leading and i hope they win the title from uefalona Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Ronaldo: The £80m bargainWhen Cristiano Ronaldo moved to Real Madrid from Manchester United in 2009, he faced a tough task justifying his world record price tag.Two-and-a-half seasons and just 105 games later, Ronaldo has reached 100 goals for the club.He brought up his century on Wednesday night with a brace against Lyon, including a viciously powerful free-kick.It is a staggering achievement, which shows Real Madrid have achieved the impossible and got themselves an £80 million bargain.In a world where Andy Carroll costs a cool £35 million and Charles N'Zogbia sets you back £10m, surely Ronaldo classifies as an absolute steal? Who wouldn't break for a player who guarantees excellence week after week?Ronaldo's consistency has been truly breathtaking, averaging virtually a goal a game from the moment he arrived at the Bernabeu.2009/10: 35 games, 33 goals2010/11: 54 games, 53 goals2011/12: 16 games, 14 goalsAnd this from a man who does not even play as a traditional out-and-out striker.Ronaldo genuinely has it all - skill, imagination and trickery allied with strength, pace, aerial ability and almost perfect two-footedness.Yet somehow, for all his talent, fame and success, Ronaldo is something of an underappreciated player.THE SHADOW OF MESSIIf Ronaldo's feats are extraordinary, Lionel Messi's border on the superhuman and leave his rival firmly in the shade.In the time it took Ronaldo to score 100 goals, Messi netted 122, and recently reached 200 total goals for Barcelona aged 24.The Argentine is two years younger, more popular and at a more successful club. He has performed better in 'Clasico' encounters, outscoring his rival 6-3 when they have gone head-to-head.But then Messi might just be the best player of all time, and his supporting cast outshines Ronaldo's by a distance.There is no shame in being 'only' the second-best player in the world; even if Ronaldo himself would probably baulk at the description.Just because Messi is transcendentally brilliant, it does not follow that Ronaldo is a donkey.A TRUE WINNER?There remains a lingering perception that Ronaldo is not a proper 'winner' - that he struggles in the really big games and is quick to sulk when things go against him.Messi's superior record in 'Clasico' matches adds to the impression. Real have beaten Barcelona just once in nine attempts during the Ronaldo era - an extra-time victory in last season's Copa del Rey final.But this should not be enough to dismiss Ronaldo - he is, after all, part of an inferior side, yet he always carries the can for collective failure.When he plays for the team, he is accused of disappearing; when he tries to be a hero, he is accused of selfishness. He cannot win.Messi appears the ultimate winner at club level, but that all changes when he plays for Argentina, away from the fertile passes of Xavi and Andres Iniesta. Not even the world's greatest player can do it all himself.Likewise Ronaldo's roll of honour at Manchester United suggests he is hardly a born loser - three Premier Leagues, one FA Cup, one Champions League (scoring in the final).'RICH, HANDSOME AND GREAT'Perhaps the biggest cause of anti-Ronaldo sentiment is the man's staggering self-regard. He has plenty of fans, but none bigger than Cristiano Ronaldo himself.Compared with Messi's joyful approach to the game, Ronaldo appears a sneering, snarling presence who cracks a smile only when considering his own brilliance.Off the pitch, he has produced some magnificently boastful remarks including this one earlier this season: "I think that because I am rich, handsome and a great player people are envious of me. I don't have any other explanation."And how about this one from last month: "I think that all those who like football are happy when Cristiano Ronaldo is playing."The thing is, he's right.He might not be Leo Messi, he might not play for the best team in the world (the second-best, maybe) and he might love himself a little too much - but Cristiano Ronaldo is a remarkable footballer.He was a snip at £80m for Real Madrid, and is a delight to watch for any true football fan.http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/football/armchair-pundit/article/15075/Brilliant article. termninja 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 As an athlete, Ronaldo > MessiAs a player, Messi > Ronaldo LDN Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace. 4,352 Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 ^ True.If Ronaldo is that good, it is because he spent hours at training. While for Messi, it is just natural. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 I still would like to see Messi do it for Argentina, see if he can do it without Xavi & Iniesta.Ronaldo's managed to walk into United, Real & Portugal and still emerge a sensational player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Barcelona will still win La Liga with something to spare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace. 4,352 Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 I still would like to see Messi do it for Argentina, see if he can do it without Xavi & Iniesta.Ronaldo's managed to walk into United, Real & Portugal and still emerge a sensational player.While I could have argued through a long post, but I think this video is enough :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LT9H0-hm9u4 Term-X 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 While I could have argued through a long post, but I think this video is enoughAha, I knew I should've been clearer Not doubting his incredible ability on a football pitch. But just sayin', could he do it out of the Barcelona system? As Ronaldo did.To do it with Argentina would be something special. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace. 4,352 Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 ^ He can't do that, and he won't do that.People are fooled by the fact he plays for Argentina. Indeed, in most people minds, Argentina is a good selection. But it actually is a poor team. They just have some good forwards, but other than that, they are soooo poor. And when you are coached by Maradonna, no doubt you can't achieve a thing. If Messi was playing for, let's say, Chile, everybody would agree that he can't win silverwares with his national team. Plus, for Argentina he has to play as a N°10 because he is the only player able to bring creativity (he has to every thing, by the way). But it isn't his position, he is a striker. So, we can't expect him to reproduce with Argentina what he does with Barcelona. Finaly, when he plays with the Albiceleste, he isn't that poor, and he is always their best player.To conclude, people need to realize he won't win the World Cup, that is impossible. I don't think Pelé, Maradonna, Zidane, Ronaldo and co had a team that weak around them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 ^ He can't do that, and he won't do that.People are fooled by the fact he plays for Argentina. Indeed, in most people minds, Argentina is a good selection. But it actually is a poor team. They just have some good forwards, but other than that, they are soooo poor. And when you are coached by Maradonna, no doubt you can't achieve a thing. If Messi was playing for, let's say, Chile, everybody would agree that he can't win silverwares with his national team. Plus, for Argentina he has to play as a N°10 because he is the only player able to bring creativity (he has to every thing, by the way). But it isn't his position, he is a striker. So, we can't expect him to reproduce with Argentina what he does with Barcelona. Finaly, when he plays with the Albiceleste, he isn't that poor, and he is always their best player.To conclude, people need to realize he won't win the World Cup, that is impossible. I don't think Pelé, Maradonna, Zidane, Ronaldo and co had a team that weak around them.Not to win the world cup.I understand about the Argentine squad being very weak actually. They're like how City used to be, a lethal attack, but no team balance. No disputing this even today. However looking at Messi's own individual performance in that squad, it's very different than how he is at Barcelona. He doesn't dribble as effectively or score as much.I still enjoy watching Messi and no denying he's the world's best player. But I prefer Cristiano for some reason.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 I prefer Messi as a personality, he's loyal and a smart player. Cristiano on the other hand is undoubtedly a better athlete and more versatile, but he just oozes of cuntistry. Ronaldo would probably excel in any league, he ripped the prem and la liga apart, how many can say that? We will never know how Messi would adapt in different leagues and teams, because he seems loyal to his club... not what can be said of the fake Ron.Who is more exciting to watch? Imo Messi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Ronaldo: The £80m bargainhttp://uk.eurosport..../article/15075/Brilliant article.He's awesome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 Nice finish by Benzema. Valencia 0-1 Real Madrid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 Fantastic game between Valencia and Madrid. Ended 2-3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
termninja 5,290 Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 Soldado was good. He seems like he can always score. 2-3 in the end for Real. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HRiver 1,512 Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 Barca lost against Getafe and Real Madrid won 4-1 in the Madrid derby. Mourinho's side seems stronger this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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