La Liga Thread

[TacticalBlues 2,817]

Ok then fair enough. So i guess we will have to go back 10, 20 years, to see all the infamous UCL matches that Madrid has won......

Go back to all those trophies Madrid won and see how much thievery, highway robery, and all that you call it, Madrid did.

And with 2009, i agree it was a robery, but there has been far worse robery then that. But you probably don't know about it, cause it does not involve Chelsea.....One that was involved Chelsea as of late was in 2010 when Mourinho Inter rob Chelsea....

20 years ago, lol your probably right, I wasn't born I'm just talking about more recently. But like I said, I have no doubt Madrid do the same shit and have done the same shit. Just in recent years, Barca have been the worst perpetrators IMO.

[Fernando 6,585]

20 years ago, lol your probably right, I wasn't born I'm just talking about more recently. But like I said, I have no doubt Madrid do the same shit and have done the same shit. Just in recent years, Barca have been the worst perpetrators IMO.

If it's the present, then you have all the right to dislike Barcelona.

I personally don't like them both, cause they mess up spanish football. It was more competitive before, now it's just them two.

Well anyways, this topic is redundant, let's just move on.

I have to say, Casillas is one leader. That is the one player from that team I actually respect.

This is what Casillas said after the game:

Casillas: "Caer está permitido, levantarse es obligatorio"

Translated means:

To fall is permitted, but to get up is necessary.

[Peace. 4,352]

Pepe is a dirty, incest little rat. He doesn't deserve to play football. But generally we all know of the Barca antics. I'll never forget Busquets getting Motta sent off who subsequently missed the UCL final, that was just so disgraceful beyond words.

Fair enough. I won't try to argue that Barcelona players are saints, because some of their players are divers (or overdo things when falling), like Sergio Busquets, Danni Alvès, Pedro, Adriano and Masherano. But what I will argue, it's about this tag many people are putting on Barça, i.e. that they are cheaters and divers. While it is clear some of their players have the tendency to overdo when they fall on the ground, they aren't the only ones to do that. Indeed, Madrid have their share of divers and cheaters, like Ronaldo, Pepé, Di Maria, to mention few. And globally, more or less all the players playing in a latin country - or more or less all latin players - have the tendency to fall down quite easily. Don't get me wrong, I am not making a dig towards Latin culture, or latin people, no. But this is somehow just a part of their culture, for instance italians like to dive and cheat - this is a generalisation of course, but if I take this example, this is because I know what I am talking about. What I am trying to say there, it's that this is not only Barcelona players who are acting like this. And if we have this sterotype "Catalan = diver", this is because it is in the agenda of some media. Indeed, when people are talking about Barcelona, it seems that they either love it (and brag "it is the better clun in the world, blabla) or hate it (and say "it is a bunch of divers), it is either hate or love, hence we don't have unbiased opinion. I hope you get my point....??

But I don't buy this "Barça are being helped by the referees". Indeed, if the referees were really biased toward Barça, then Pepé wouldn't have played the game yesterday, because he would have been undergoing a five games ban +. Coentrao would have been suspended because of his bad and un-sportive move on Messi. Diarra would have been sent off during the game.

And we shouldn't be too harsh on the referees of the Classico. Indeed, at the moment this is the biggest game in the world, this is the most televised game, this is the game the most important (because the winner will be said to be the best team in the world), plus it is a derby. Therefore, there's a lot of pressure, even more since Mourinho is at the helm of Madrid. You can feel it when you see the 22 players on the pitch. And there an unbelievable amount of divings and bad tackles, due to the importance of the game. I think we can't imagine what kind of pressure the referee has when 22 players keep surrounding you all the game to argue your decision, and when 80+ millions people whistle when your decision isn't in favor of the home side. I wouldn't like to be at his place... We forget that referees are human. So it's kinda normal if sometimes the ref forgets to sanction a bad tackle, or gives a yellow card too easily.

[Fernando 6,585]

Fair enough. I won't try to argue that Barcelona players are saints, because some of their players are divers (or overdo things when falling), like Sergio Busquets, Danni Alvès, Pedro, Adriano and Masherano. But what I will argue, it's about this tag many people are putting on Barça, i.e. that they are cheaters and divers. While it is clear some of their players have the tendency to overdo when they fall on the ground, they aren't the only ones to do that. Indeed, Madrid have their share of divers and cheaters, like Ronaldo, Pepé, Di Maria, to mention few. And globally, more or less all the players playing in a latin country - or more or less all latin players - have the tendency to fall down quite easily. Don't get me wrong, I am not making a dig towards Latin culture, or latin people, no. But this is somehow just a part of their culture, for instance italians like to dive and cheat - this is a generalisation of course, but if I take this example, this is because I know what I am talking about. What I am trying to say there, it's that this is not only Barcelona players who are acting like this. And if we have this sterotype "Catalan = diver", this is because it is in the agenda of some media. Indeed, when people are talking about Barcelona, it seems that they either love it (and brag "it is the better clun in the world, blabla) or hate it (and say "it is a bunch of divers), it is either hate or love, hence we don't have unbiased opinion. I hope you get my point....??

But I don't buy this "Barça are being helped by the referees". Indeed, if the referees were really biased toward Barça, then Pepé wouldn't have played the game yesterday, because he would have been undergoing a five games ban +. Coentrao would have been suspended because of his bad and un-sportive move on Messi. Diarra would have been sent off during the game.

And we shouldn't be too harsh on the referees of the Classico. Indeed, at the moment this is the biggest game in the world, this is the most televised game, this is the game the most important (because the winner will be said to be the best team in the world), plus it is a derby. Therefore, there's a lot of pressure, even more since Mourinho is at the helm of Madrid. You can feel it when you see the 22 players on the pitch. And there an unbelievable amount of divings and bad tackles, due to the importance of the game. I think we can't imagine what kind of pressure the referee has when 22 players keep surrounding you all the game to argue your decision, and when 80+ millions people whistle when your decision isn't in favor of the home side. I wouldn't like to be at his place... We forget that referees are human. So it's kinda normal if sometimes the ref forgets to sanction a bad tackle, or gives a yellow card too easily.

And this the face the media and all the loving Madrid fans want to hide. Let's pin all the blame on Barcelona so that it will make Madrid look more innoncent.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l823RiyQXS8&feature=player_embedded%5B/media

[Beirut_Blues 306]

Ok then fair enough. So i guess we will have to go back 10, 20 years, to see all the infamous UCL matches that Madrid has won......

Go back to all those trophies Madrid won and see how much thievery, highway robery, and all that you call it, Madrid did.

And with 2009, i agree it was a robery, but there has been far worse robery then that. But you probably don't know about it, cause it does not involve Chelsea.....One that was involved Chelsea as of late was in 2010 when Mourinho Inter rob Chelsea....

BARCA SHOULD DIE

[Fernando 6,585]

BARCA SHOULD DIE

Ii guess I wasted my time talking to a little kid, if that's all you have to say.....

[Fernando 6,585]

First half over of an exciting game in the Rayo Vallecano vs A. Bilbao game. 2-2

Llorente is top dog. He might be moving to a new team in the new season.

[TacticalBlues 2,817]

Fernando Llorente Torres hatrick. 2-3

[Madmax 9,219]

Real concede first, again.

[zolayes 14,489]

Real concede first, again.

think they will still win ,,,are getting chances

[Fernando 6,585]

Fernando Llorente Torres hatrick. 2-3

Llorente has been great.

I think if he keeps up he will go to Euro with Spain as main striker.

There where also rumors that Liverpool where after him...

[Madmax 9,219]

Kaka misses open goal.

EDIT : He's scored now lol. Good goal too.

[zolayes 14,489]

kaka oh we MUST sign him.... 1 1

[LDN Blue 7,903]

Kaka misses open goal.

EDIT : He's scored now lol. Good goal too.

Summing up the last 2seasons of his career?

[Fernando 6,585]

Was a very hard call, but I think he is on line.