The Pre-Season Thread

[robsblubot 3,502]

10 minutes ago, Gundalf said:

Well with that logic u could never buy a player bc u would never know if the one u buy performs as well as the payer u replace him with. All signings are bets to a certain degree. 

I mean look at Enzo: we basically replaced Jorginho, a proven player and CL winner, with Enzo, a guy that has been playing in Europe for 5 months before we bought him. Big big bet, but sometimes its worth it. If it was up to you, we still would have Jorginho around and no Enzo? 

All the players we sold actually wanted to leave, for different reasons. All of them didnt have Chelsea in their heart anymore. It was the best solution for everyone. 

Yeah there is always risk, but my point above was that there is a distinct difference in risk incurred when buying a 25yo rotation player from RM vs a 21yo starter from Brighton.

Was it worth it? Enzo was less of a bet because of his WC performances, but I'd say that he's still pretty much a question mark. I like what I see, but we still need him to deliver the goods.

"All the players we sold actually wanted to leave" yup and I'm afraid that says more about us than them.

Edited July 14, 2023 by robsblubot

[Gundalf 804]

11 minutes ago, robsblubot said:

Yeah there is always risk, but my point above was that there is a distinct difference in risk incurred when buying a 25yo rotation player from RM vs a 21yo starter from Brighton.

Was it worth it? Enzo was less of a bet because of his WC performances, but I'd say that he's still pretty much a question mark. I like what I see, but we still need him to deliver the good.

"All the players we sold actually wanted to leave" yup and I'm afraid that says more about us than them.

I mean, what I saw from Enzo, even considering our season, was more impressive than what I saw from Jorginho in his last year. And these kind of players (Jorgi, Kova, KK, Mendy) had an expiration date anyway bc of their age. 

I wouldnt say its the clubs fault that these players want to leave - all of them were basically backup players, maybe except Havertz (who should have been a backup player the last 3 years lol) they want to play, and if they think they can be starters elsewhere, than they should seek happiness. But thats kinda normal in football, I wouldnt say that the club mistreated them in a way. Look at City, they sold Jesus, they sold Sterling, they sold Zinchenko, they lost Gündogan, they probably will sell Bernardo. And why? Because these players were backup players who wanted to play or just wanted to have a new experience (like Gündo).

Edited July 14, 2023 by Gundalf

[robsblubot 3,502]

10 minutes ago, Gundalf said:

I mean, what I saw from Enzo, even considering our season, was more impressive than what I saw from Jorginho in his last year. And these kind of players (Jorgi, Kova, KK, Mendy) had an expiration date anyway bc of their age. 

I wouldnt say its the clubs fault that these players want to leave - all of them were basically backup players, maybe except Havertz (who should have been a backup player the last 3 years lol) they want to play, and if they think they can be starters elsewhere, than they should seek happiness. But thats kinda normal in football, I wouldnt say that the club mistreated them in a way. Look at City, they sold Jesus, they sold Sterling, they sold Zinchenko, they lost Gündogan, they probably will sell Bernardo. And why? Because these players were backup players who wanted to play or just wanted to have a new experience (like Gündo).

Yeah sure Enzo looks good, but I talk more about actually fitting in a team and winning. "looking good" is only guarantee for some ticket sales.

Kai was a starter and Mount was very close to a starter--perhaps rotation. Nowadays teams never finish the game with the same starting 11 due to the physical demands.

I don't think the club mistreated them, maybe Mount may have a valid point but debatable. I mean that they all saw other clubs, some very close by, as better options... something that perhaps wouldn't have happened before the new ownership.

[NikkiCFC 7,942]

We are flying to USA on Monday. Now it's clear without Caicedo. We don't do business on weekends. 

[ZAPHOD2319 4,477]

 

[ZAPHOD2319 4,477]

Badiashle will not travel to the US so he can keep his recovery very going.

 

 

[James 5,195]

 

[Vytis33 1,144]

 

[Gundalf 804]

 

[NikkiCFC 7,942]

2 hours ago, Gundalf said:

 

It's absolutely true. Wouldn't be surprised if Havertz, Mount and others wanted out so badly because of fans. And they speak to each other so Colwill maybe don't want to engage with that. 

[ZAPHOD2319 4,477]

Fofana did those things with his social media before the knee problem. It has nothing to do with our fan base. 
 

 

[Vytis33 1,144]

 

[Fulham Broadway 16,835]

Chelsea will meet Premier League rivals Manchester City and La Liga leaders Real Madrid on the clubs' pre-season tour.

The Blues have confirmed a five-game pre-season series in the United States to prepare for the 2024-25 campaign.

The two latest fixtures join a line-up that begins with a match against League Two Wrexham on 24 July and is followed by games against Scottish Premiership giants Celtic and Mexican side Club America.

The fixture against City will take place on 3 August at Ohio Stadium in Columbus before the tour concludes against Real on 6 August at Bank of America Stadium in Charlotte.

Chelsea return to the US for the third summer in a row.

[Blue Armour 4,278]

11 hours ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Chelsea will meet Premier League rivals Manchester City and La Liga leaders Real Madrid on the clubs' pre-season tour.

The Blues have confirmed a five-game pre-season series in the United States to prepare for the 2024-25 campaign.

The two latest fixtures join a line-up that begins with a match against League Two Wrexham on 24 July and is followed by games against Scottish Premiership giants Celtic and Mexican side Club America.

The fixture against City will take place on 3 August at Ohio Stadium in Columbus before the tour concludes against Real on 6 August at Bank of America Stadium in Charlotte.

Chelsea return to the US for the third summer in a row.

3 years ago, facing and beating Madrid & City in key CL fixtures.

Now, just a training fixture.

Congratulations Clownlake on taking the club to never before seen heights.

[ulvhedin 507]

I wish they would scrap US tour this season and focus on properly preparing for the season. Yeah, not gonna happen.

[KEVINAA 92]

Chelsea Pre-Season tour to USA for season of 2024-25

https://www.chelseafc.com/en/Chelsea-pre-season-tour-usa-2024

WREXHAM - JULY 24 [SANTA CLARA, CALIFORNIA]

CELTIC - JULY 27 [NOTRE DAME ,INDIANA]

CLUB AMERICA - JULY 31 [ATLANTA, GEORGIA]

MAN CITY - AUGUST 3 [COLUMBUS, OHIO]

REAL MADRID - AUGUST 6 [CHARLOTTE, NORTH CAROLINA]

Edited April 18 by KEVINAA

[KEVINAA 92]

5 hours ago, KEVINAA said:

Chelsea Pre-Season tour to USA for season of 2024-25

https://www.chelseafc.com/en/Chelsea-pre-season-tour-usa-2024

 

WREXHAM - JULY 24 [SANTA CLARA, CALIFORNIA]

CELTIC - JULY 27 [NOTRE DAME ,INDIANA]

CLUB AMERICA - JULY 31 [ATLANTA, GEORGIA]

MAN CITY - AUGUST 3 [COLUMBUS, OHIO]

REAL MADRID - AUGUST 6 [CHARLOTTE, NORTH CAROLINA]

This tour in number statistics

Wednesday 24 July to Tuesday 6 August

5 Matches/Games

1 Week and 6 Days = 13 Days

Edited April 18 by KEVINAA

[NikkiCFC 7,942]

Inter coming to Stamford Bridge on August 11 for a friendly. General test one week before Premier League starts.