Ramires

[sherry33 234]

I'd sell him as soon as it becomes possible.

Slow-Minded, One-Dimensional Player. Brings a lot of Insecurity. Useless.

When he was on fire he was quite good but yeah i get your point.

If we can sell him i would sell him in a heart-beat also.

[Nike 373]

You guys understand that as ramires won't be sold under Mourinho unless we get someone better in the ramires mold.

[sherry33 234]

You guys understand that as ramires won't be sold under Mourinho unless we get someone better in the ramires mold.

We can always use Ramires and Mikel as bait for someone like Vidal

[laeth 527]

He has an awful footballing brain .

[Special Juan 27,422]

Terrible.

[Nike 373]

We can always use Ramires and Mikel as bait for someone like Vidal

Juve is going to sell Pogba before they sell Vidal

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,919]

Juve is going to sell Pogba before they sell Vidal

Even better for us because we could use a pogba too

[duhmcduh 9]

Can we keep David Luiz and sell Ramires please?

[Henrique 9,133]

I'm not a big fan of Ramires. I remember when it was still possible to "dislike" posts, one of my most "disliked" was one where I said Ramires was a poor player, and Ancelotti deserved the axe and didn't know how to buy. His first season was really bad. He got better and silenced his critics in past two season, when he was really important and one of our most consistent players.

But he just had his worst season as a Chelsea player under Mourinho, and the weird thing is the portuguese seems to be a huge fan of his football. You just need to compare his goals and assists stats with the previous seasons.

11/12: 12 goals, 7 assists.

12/13: 9 goals/8 assists.

13/14: 4 goals/2 assists.

This season he barely help the team in the attack, he runs, runs, runs, make some short passes and when he usually try something different it end up with bad results.

But what annoys me is that some "fans" are really short minded. Take Malouda's example. He had some superb seasons as a Chelsea player (he was really great in 09/10) but when he left some people here were saying a shit player just had left, because they had his last as player 11/12 in his mind, when was average at best. This season Ramires has been a pain to watch, but he is nothing like he used to be in past seasons. He was never a great footballer, but definitely better than this.

[Strike 7,217]

funnily enough, the first three months he played on the right wing (under di Matteo in 2012), he could do nothing wrong. good performances almost every time - Napoli, Benfica (away) Barca (home and away), Tottenham (FA Cup) Liverpool in final. He scored or assisted in all of those games except Benfica one, but even then he was involved in the build up to the goal

that was as a defensive winger looking to break forward. suited him really

[Shane 2,275]

funnily enough, the first three months he played on the right wing (under di Matteo in 2012), he could do nothing wrong. good performances almost every time - Napoli, Benfica (away) Barca (home and away), Tottenham (FA Cup) Liverpool in final. He scored or assisted in all of those games except Benfica one, but even then he was involved in the build up to the goal

that was as a defensive winger looking to break forward. suited him really

Think thats the only role he is very good at, Which is why he doesn't suit us as we're trying to move away from playing with a player like Ramires on the right. He'd suit a lesser team, Like Spurs.

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

I'm not a big fan of Ramires. I remember when it was still possible to "dislike" posts, one of my most "disliked" was one where I said Ramires was a poor player, and Ancelotti deserved the axe and didn't know how to buy. His first season was really bad. He got better and silenced his critics in past two season, when he was really important and one of our most consistent players.

But he just had his worst season as a Chelsea player under Mourinho, and the weird thing is the portuguese seems to be a huge fan of his football. You just need to compare his goals and assists stats with the previous seasons.

11/12: 12 goals, 7 assists.

12/13: 9 goals/8 assists.

13/14: 4 goals/2 assists.

This season he barely help the team in the attack, he runs, runs, runs, make some short passes and when he usually try something different it end up with bad results.

But what annoys me is that some "fans" are really short minded. Take Malouda's example. He had some superb seasons as a Chelsea player (he was really great in 09/10) but when he left some people here were saying a shit player just had left, because they had his last as player 11/12 in his mind, when was average at best. This season Ramires has been a pain to watch, but he is nothing like he used to be in past seasons. He was never a great footballer, but definitely better than this.

Its really quite simple for me. Ramires was bought to fit into 4-3-3 not 4-2-3-1... You play him with Matic and Lamps and his strengths come to the forefront. There's too much responsibility and it doesn't suit his skill set.

I still like Ramires, just feel he needs to be complimented better than we have right now.

[DYC. 7,542]

funnily enough, the first three months he played on the right wing (under di Matteo in 2012), he could do nothing wrong. good performances almost every time - Napoli, Benfica (away) Barca (home and away), Tottenham (FA Cup) Liverpool in final. He scored or assisted in all of those games except Benfica one, but even then he was involved in the build up to the goal

that was as a defensive winger looking to break forward. suited him really

At Benfica, he thrived playing as some sort of a half right winger/half centre midfielder, in a 4-1-2-1-2 formation. He played in a similar for Brazil before, under Dunga I think.

Di Maria played in a similar role on the opposite side. A role he also plays for Argentina since Sabella took over and now he plays in that role under Ancelotti. He's playing his best football and it's not a coincidence. Of course with a completely different style of play.

What I'm trying to say is that he's not playing in his natural/best role. He not been able to adapt his game to suit playing in the middle. not the required level that is. He was the runner, enjoying the freedom to get up and down, hassling opposition player and stretching defences. And when he got forward, he was a goal threat because he's a suprisingly good finisher when given little time to think. But the key was not to get him to too involved build-up play, use him as a decoy. Because of his technical limitations. A classic case of a footballer who is at his best without the ball.

He simply doesn't suit the current system. He makes a good squad player as a centre midfielder though imo.

[MrBlueGuy 1,552]

Cut out the brain farts occasionally and he is a very good CM, ok maybe not very but good and better than most in BPL. I think he will be the new Mikel soon too and that is not a good thing but he will probably be here for a very long time so hate him all you want he is not going anywhere.

[Special Juan 27,422]

Cut out the brain farts occasionally and he is a very good CM, ok maybe not very but good and better than most in BPL. I think he will be the new Mikel soon too and that is not a good thing but he will probably be here for a very long time so hate him all you want he is not going anywhere.

Brainfarts I would say are swinging a leg at things, this guy cannot pass for shit, that is more worrying than a brain fart.

[MrBlueGuy 1,552]

Brainfarts I would say are swinging a leg at things, this guy cannot pass for shit, that is more worrying than a brain fart.

True but tbf it was never really in his game. He is more of a runner, tackler(a pretty crap one I must admit) and as a box to box. I think he is a very useful squad player to have, he is a lot more mobile than Mikel too. Once he knows how to control his action he will be a good player for us again(by controlling I mean not stamping on players or start punching others)

[Special Juan 27,422]

True but tbf it was never really in his game. He is more of a runner, tackler(a pretty crap one I must admit) and as a box to box. I think he is a very useful squad player to have, he is a lot more mobile than Mikel too. Once he knows how to control his action he will be a good player for us again(by controlling I mean not stamping on players or start punching others)

His discipline is something that has become very poor. Asking him to make basic passes should be the minimum of a midfielder in his position, yet he struggles with that.

[Jase 43,479]

This will go down well...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/chelsea/10806112/Chelsea-manager-looking-for-a-new-team-of-untouchables-to-match-Stamford-Bridges-class-of-2006.html

“If next season we have a No 9 who we decide is first-choice, plus the stability that Matic and Ramires can give, hopefully we will have more stability.”