NiclasCFC 2,582 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Legend.http://m.skysports.com/article/football//9127882 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuvala 2,167 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 His lack of composure,finesse and football iq are the reasons why I can never feel comfortable rating him as one of the best players in his position. he might be a key player in our squad but I doubt he had walk into any top team in europe. So the fact that he's our best CM atm speaks more about the low quality of our midfield than rami as a player.You are kinda right but still he is really a key to our midfield and he has certain attributes which make him a very useful, effective player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidzeret 2,257 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 His lack of composure,finesse and football iq are the reasons why I can never feel comfortable rating him as one of the best players in his position. he might be a key player in our squad but I doubt he had walk into any top team in europe. So the fact that he's our best CM atm speaks more about the low quality of our midfield than rami as a player.He has certain gifts other footballers just envy- his stamina, running, cool headed finishing. He is the sort of footballer than can fit in any team easily.Your insight really scares me, mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshybizzle 109 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 I'm a Ramires fan personally, he gets around, he really puts in a shift and he can score and when he does they're more often than not pretty important goals (Barca chip anyone?)After seeing Matic play against Stoke i'm looking forward to seeing them both playing in the pivot with Matic's defensive solidity and Ramires energy and he may just get a licence to break forward on those lung busting runs which will be great for moving into the oppositions third, same as Matic's crisp passing The question i'd like to put to you guys is, if Ramires didn't have so much stamina, that willingness to run and run and run would we really rate him? He gets a respectable amount of goals for a deeper lying MF (since he's in the pivot 95% of the time) and assists with 5 goals & 5 assists in 37 gamesFor Mourhinio's system he's ideal as he can run around just pressing for the whole game and still play an integral part of our system and you can't ignore his versatility, that's not what i'm questioning TLDR: My question is, without his other worldly stamina and work ethic, would you rate Ramires? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuvala 2,167 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 I'm a Ramires fan personally, he gets around, he really puts in a shift and he can score and when he does they're more often than not pretty important goals (Barca chip anyone?)After seeing Matic play against Stoke i'm looking forward to seeing them both playing in the pivot with Matic's defensive solidity and Ramires energy and he may just get a licence to break forward on those lung busting runs which will be great for moving into the oppositions third, same as Matic's crisp passing The question i'd like to put to you guys is, if Ramires didn't have so much stamina, that willingness to run and run and run would we really rate him? He gets a respectable amount of goals for a deeper lying MF (since he's in the pivot 95% of the time) and assists with 5 goals & 5 assists in 37 gamesFor Mourhinio's system he's ideal as he can run around just pressing for the whole game and still play an integral part of our system and you can't ignore his versatility, that's not what i'm questioning TLDR: My question is, without his other worldly stamina and work ethic, would you rate Ramires?I'd rate him significantly lower if he didn't have the stamina.. its his main attribute IMO. And it goes together with his pace. Joshybizzle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svita 10 186 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 I just look on transfermarkt and his value is 27M, isn´t too much for non-passing midfielder? He was poor today xPetrCechx, The Chels and chelsealukas23 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilvorak 3,734 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 He was shit but this type of game wasn't where we could maximize his strengths. No point playing him against teams that park the bus.Blame Jose. chelsealukas23, Weckerz and Reddish-Blue 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,571 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 was SHIT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excalibur KTBFFH 109 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Another player who is not as good as some people think he is. And people think he is a dead cert in the future Chelsea? Bull. Gundogan, Kroos.... That's the way to go. Midfield controllers, not headless chickens who can't pass a football and lack composure in the 18 yard box. The Chels 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Another player who is not as good as some people think he is. And people think he is a dead cert in the future Chelsea? Bull. Gundogan, Kroos.... That's the way to go. Midfield controllers, not headless chickens who can't pass a football and lack composure in the 18 yard box. The problem isn't what we think but what mourinho and the hyrachy thinks. He's played more minutes and games than every other outfield player in our squad this season. Unfortunately that's a clear indication that jose rates him highly and sees him as a key player going forward. laura90 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Dire tonight, but Ramires is the player who gives his absolute all and an extra 20% on top. You can't be mad at him for that. yuvala, Ainsley Harriott, The Mak and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuvala 2,167 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 He's just suited for certain kind of games \ systems.This is not his season TBH .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milan 17,957 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Please Mo Salah, please be ready as soon as possible. Ramires on the right flank is just a disaster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weckerz 3,781 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Please Mo Salah, please be ready as soon as possible. Ramires on the right flank is just a disaster.Don't think the issue was him being played on the right in the second half, it's just that his pace and directness which are crucial parts of his game are useless vs teams that get 10 players behind the ball. yuvala 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ainsley Harriott 2,732 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 He's just suited for certain kind of games \ systems.This is not his season TBH ..Tbf I think he's just tired. He was one of our best players up until weeks ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuvala 2,167 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Don't think the issue was him being played on the right in the second half, it's just that his pace and directness which are crucial parts of his game are useless vs teams that get 10 players behind the ball.true that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mak 4,459 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Dire tonight, but Ramires is the player who gives his absolute all and an extra 20% on top. You can't be mad at him for that. Pity it was an extra 20% of shit though. BlueLion., CHOULO19 and The Chels 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Cahill is technically better than ramires our central creative midfielder. Says it all really The Chels 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleO 192 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Was so disappointing yesterday. Bad choices, bad shots, bad tackling... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky 739 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 I believe Ramiers should become a squad player next season, doesn't have the quality for a XI place in quality wining team. He will never start in a team like Bayern, Barca or Real. Don't get me wrong his a good player and his versatility and stamina will perfectly suit him as a good squad/rotation type player. Excalibur KTBFFH 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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