nadavTKL 1,787 Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 A ) I wouldn't say it is because of his suspension that he has to started to play badly. Neither because he has integrated a team which was playing poorly. We got to keep in mind that during this period, he picked up an injury to his toes. I think it was the straw that broke the camel back, ie his body has suffered from injuries too many times.B ) Wrong. Our « Bad Moment ® » started well before the Sunderland game. Actually, it started against Aston Villa. We got a draw there in a poorly way, then we have won against the Wolf in the same way. Against BBurn we were very lucky to not lose. And then Liverpool made us look like fools. So, our bad form started before Wilkins got the sack, before the Sunderland game and before Essien got that red card.C ) I don't believe Ramires was awful... He was more the scapegoat than anything else...A) But thats only your own opinion. Is it so unlikely that he will play way better next season? I dont think it is. You got to give another chance for Essien.Selling him or bring another player on his position would be an harsh move, another one for us. And to say Mikel could be a better option, for now its just a wierd thing to say. What Mikel do so well?B ) This bad moment didnt start as a Bad Moment ® . it started in one singel game, but playing poor for one game dosent mean getting into a Bad Moment.It should stop after a couple of games, Chelsea couldnet stop this because of thoes reasons that pop out one after another- Lampard couldnt play at that time,and than JT, Alex and Essien. If we had 2 of this players we could keep playing at least on a reasonable, normal form. (Oh, and dont forget sick Drogba)One not so empresive game by the team doesnt mean much, the issue is what comes next.C) You know what, thats a more reasonable thing to say. But the point is that Ramirez couldnt be effective in the team play, he was new at this team and new in this league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Severinb 309 Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 malouda and bosingwa and cash would be great!I think essien is way better than ramires Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
termninja 5,290 Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 The only thing they'll see from Ramires is his worn Chelsea shirt... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 The board would be absolutely mental to sell our best midfielder last season. I don't mind the essien-malouda swap for sneijder but keep ramires out of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.F. 1,484 Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 Essien> Sneijder,Malouda,Ramires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 Ramires is 24, Essien is almost 29......... why would we give away Ramires, and keep Essien?Inter should just take Essien and demand more cash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
termninja 5,290 Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 Essien> Sneijder,Malouda,Ramires.Once upon a time...it's not like I want him out because of bad season, but I'd rather keep Ramires who is younger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.F. 1,484 Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 Ramires is 24, Essien is almost 29......... why would we give away Ramires, and keep Essien?Inter should just take Essien and demand more cash because Essien is best defensive midfielder in the world, end of this stupid discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 Essien is degrading slowly. Age takes away physicality in sports and Essien's game is 90% physicality. Best we 'cash' in on him while there is still an interest.While now, he still fairly fantastic, how many years will it be before he is completely useless? One? Two? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.F. 1,484 Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 Sneijder is only 27. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 because Essien is best defensive midfielder in the world, end of this stupid discussion.And that's the reality because you happen to think so. right?if I assert that kalou is the best striker in the world would that also be a legitimate statement?.Essien isn't even a DM, he's more of a box to box midfielder who's just versatile enough to also play as a DM. YayaToure, busquet, mascherano and alex song are all better than him in that role Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran. 6,317 Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 Essien is past his prime, unfortunately. Tough to say because he's been a favorite of mine for years. Injuries are unfair... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,582 Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 Happy B-Day Wesley!!!Hope You Will become a Blue!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 Essien is degrading slowly. Age takes away physicality in sports and Essien's game is 90% physicality. Best we 'cash' in on him while there is still an interest.While now, he still fairly fantastic, how many years will it be before he is completely useless? One? Two?Excellent post. We have ramires who's extremely similar to essien but younger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 Essien> Sneijder,Malouda,Ramires.And you came to that conclusion on the basis of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
termninja 5,290 Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 Sneijder is only 27.Which is exactly why we mustn't give them Ramires... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 Wow, talks with Sneijder? Great stuff to hear, remains to be seen if it's true or not though.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulsterchelsea 3,221 Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 Wow, talks with Sneijder? Great stuff to hear, remains to be seen if it's true or not though.. are we reportedly in talks now or is this the same story about the end of the week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 are we reportedly in talks now or is this the same story about the end of the weekYeah the one about planned talks, in the Metro? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 the most disappointing aspect of Essiens game when he returned was his distribution . It was woeful ,,even the simplest passes when under nopressure went astray. I do hope he recovers his form and stays with us . BUT if we have to use a midfielder in a trade rather him than Ramiresor Mikel based on fitness and age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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