Predator 114 Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 Be careful then, he is thought of very highly here at Talk Chelsea. You don't want to start a flame war.I can see why, with Bayern fans, he is not thought of so highlyyour dislike was obvious in calling him "ballsack" and to say he had a failed career is ludicrous.its only a nickname yes ballack did have a failed career, captained his own country to a final twice, and to the champions league twice, only could win domestic cups, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted May 2, 2012 Author Share Posted May 2, 2012 http://www.chelseafanatic.com/2011/02/former-blue-top-10-michael-ballack.htmlBallack, Lampard and Essien bullied the MF for years.true Ballack also sacrificed his own attacking game to give stability to the midfield and allow Frank to attack.was also a natural leader , remember him dealing with Drogba over the penalty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted May 2, 2012 Author Share Posted May 2, 2012 I can see why, with Bayern fans, he is not thought of so highlyits only a nickname yes ballack did have a failed career, captained his own country to a final twice, and to the champions league twice, only could win domestic cups,I was going to carry on a discussion about what is failure but noticed your age, You werent born when Ballackstarted his career, Just how much have you seen of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predator 114 Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 I was going to carry on a discussion about what is failure but noticed your age, You werent born when Ballackstarted his career, Just how much have you seen of him.I remember watching him since 2008, great player, but my argument is that he achieved almost nothing, I may be a young fan, but football has been a big part of me,anyway mate, like Spike said, this can cause a flame war and that is something i would like to avoid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capriccioso 2,545 Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 I was going to carry on a discussion about what is failure but noticed your age, You werent born when Ballackstarted his career, Just how much have you seen of him.Not everyone was born in 1939 like you, Ron Ballack was brilliant though, didn't he win a couple of Bundesligas and Deutsche Pokal's at Bayern? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capriccioso 2,545 Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 We had probably the best midfield in the world. Ballack, Essien and Lampard, with Makelele on the bench. World beaters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 Not everyone was born in 1939 like you, Ron Ballack was brilliant though, didn't he win a couple of Bundesligas and Deutsche Pokal's at Bayern?He did.I'm kind of annoyed that Predator thinks that only mid table clubs like to win domestic honours. Everyone one at Chelsea loves winning the Premier League and FA Cup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 I can see why, with Bayern fans, he is not thought of so highlyits only a nickname yes ballack did have a failed career, captained his own country to a final twice, and to the champions league twice, only could win domestic cups,Many Players would kill to have the Career Ballack did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 Ballack is only disliked by Bayern supporters because he played our his contract to join (at the time) a bigger club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badboy 1,526 Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 When did this become a Ballack thread :banghead:. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 When did this become a Ballack thread :banghead:.When we realised that Ballack is much pleasent to talk about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capriccioso 2,545 Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 Robbery duo.Nice. But I'll still say that our former Anelkalouda was the best portmanteau made by football fans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.F. 1,484 Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 I just hope so, that we will not remember him after this final. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. 2,742 Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 Great player got injured when he come back not the same player he once was shame really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloody 209 Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 For midtable clubs, its a big achievement, for larger clubs, its not so big of an acheivment.wtf did i just read? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismada9 1,948 Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 If Aaron Mokoena had not have made that tackle, he would still be here right now as a legend, Mourinho back then would never have let him join Madrid, because in his earlier Chelsea days he was dynamite! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,539 Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 Gutted that Robben has so injury prone.Great player when he managed to play a game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulsterchelsea 3,221 Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 Would love him back if his injury problems werent so bad. Will vomit if he goes to the Yids Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 Jesus Christ, what dont Ballsack and Robben have in common? Apparently everything is all good now, but Ribery is no different in my opinionWho does this to his captain? What a cunt. I would like to see him try that with Terry or Puyol. Although I can hear the narrator saying "kapitän mark van bommel", I suppose Lahm wasn't captain back then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwylino 329 Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 Indeed, Lahm does lack physique Ballsacks days in the NT are over and he has to accept that.Ballack basically had a failed career imo.I would not say he had a "failed" career, afterall even if he has lost finals. a failed career could be like giovani dos santos's so far but maybe not as extreme or maybe not even a failure at all, but yeah i remember dos santos being touted as the next "Ronaldinho". liked to manchester united moves and such and now he's sunken into the abyss. Ballacks been brillant in his club career, and hell even getting a team to the finals cannot be considered much of a failure also.But 1 FA cup maybe i think a german title or two a Premier League. Playing for Bayern Munich and Chelsea F.C, i'd not really call that much of a failure. minding MILLIONS AND MILLIONS of people. and many many thousand youth players have come to these clubs and probably "failed" in the youth or sorts. So in a way i'll call ballacks career a success.Hell Pavel Nedved has NEVER played in a champions league final (unfortunately) i am sure, not sure if he appeared in a Euro final. But he is still considered one of the games best ever players. i could be wrong though.Another big example pretty much. of his club not being champions league winners (though i dunno if he had a WC 2002 win with brazil) Juninho (dude who used to play for lyon). but people could still say those players careers were pretty successful.shit post is shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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