🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Nathaniel Chalobah

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The club have fucked him royally this season. Waited too long to loan him then sent him to a club who didn't suit him in the slightest and now he's off to a mid-table team managed by Jose's mate after impressing everyone in the league last season.

Guy's got all the talent in the world but this year was crucial to his development and we have probably set him back at least 12 months. He might as well start looking for cheap property in Arnhem.

[The Skipper 20,609]

The club have fucked him royally this season. Waited too long to loan him then sent him to a club who didn't suit him in the slightest and now he's off to a mid-table team managed by Jose's mate after impressing everyone in the league last season.

Guy's got all the talent in the world but this year was crucial to his development and we have probably set him back at least 12 months. He might as well start looking for cheap property in Arnhem.

Hmm. Think you're overreacting a bit. Whilst we didn't do well with the Forest loan, Nat still has half a season to impress at Boro where he'll get plenty of playing time. I also think the Forest loan spell was a massive learning curve for Nat in a sense that not everything goes your way in football.

I honestly just hope he does well and reaffirms that he's head and shoulders above most in the Championship.

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Hmm. Think you're overreacting a bit. Whilst we didn't do well with the Forest loan, Nat still has half a season to impress at Boro where he'll get plenty of playing time. I also think the Foresy loan spell was a massive learning curve for Nat in a sense that not everything goes your way in football.

I honestly just hope he does well and reaffirms that he's head and shoulders above most in the Championship.

The thing is the club did perfectly with him last season and this season he should've been building on it, but he's actually regressed a bit in terms of where he's playing. So far this season has been a waste for him.

Maybe he'll learn that football isn't all wine and roses....but I'm pretty sure the Championship play-off final taught him that too.

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He and Omeruo seemed to do well today in their first starts for Middlesborough.

This paragraph also intrigued me from a blog post from Plains of Almeria about Kakuta and our loans in general: http://plainsofalmeria.co.uk/2014/01/29/the-curious-case-of-gael-kakuta/

"Nathaniel Chalobah’s disappointing loan spell at Nottingham Forest was characterised by his willingness to play football and Davies’ unwillingness to let him. Asking a player of that ability and talent, who shone as a kid at Watford in midfield, to simply play direct and not “dwell” (i.e. take a touch and look for a decent pass) does what for his development? If anything it puts a cross against him as the loan itself is looked upon as a failure. Why are we putting players into these banal long ball sides with no intent of developing them? Why are we letting inferior coaches and managers reduce talented players to simply becoming water carriers? It makes no sense."

[lucio 5,418]

looked alot better already. 4 tackles and 3 interceptions. (probably more than he managed all season at forest)

[mccg 1,528]

• Hope he has super 2nd half loan and gives Jose summer headache

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http://www.squawka.com/news/2014/02/04/loan-watch-100-tackle-success-highly-rated-chelsea-teen-shines-in-boros-latest-clash/2014020464416

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http://www.squawka.com/news/2014/02/04/loan-watch-100-tackle-success-highly-rated-chelsea-teen-shines-in-boros-latest-clash/2014020464416

the Englishman’s success in this area was in part down to his athleticism and work rate which enabled him to cover a large area of the pitch.

Nice to see an acknowledgement of this aspect of his game.

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Seems like he played a portion of the game against old team Watford at CB, more than one saying he looked more uncomfortable there than midfield.

Also Watford fans aren't happy - apparently some handbags with him and Foresteri that earned him a round of boos

[Blue Gino 377]

Why is it, according to some fans, Chelsea's fault that Nat hasn't had a great season on loan? Isn't he yet to finish playing a full 90 mins for either one of his two loan clubs this season? He's taken a step back for whatever reason and this is down to him, not Chelsea making a poor decision finding him a club, especially one like Boro hurting for money yet still took on his 30k a week wages and his return is underwhelming to say the least.

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He has finished 90 minutes three times for Middlesborough and he lnly arrived in Mid-jan, fans seem generally impressed by him, most want Leadbitter dropped and Chalobah to keep starting.

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Why is it, according to some fans, Chelsea's fault that Nat hasn't had a great season on loan? Isn't he yet to finish playing a full 90 mins for either one of his two loan clubs this season? He's taken a step back for whatever reason and this is down to him, not Chelsea making a poor decision finding him a club, especially one like Boro hurting for money yet still took on his 30k a week wages and his return is underwhelming to say the least.

It's not Chelsea's fault that he's had a poor loan, but it's Chelsea's fault that he's on loan at all. He proved his quality last season, he should be part of the first team squad right now, not out on a pointless loan deal.

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I'm going to the Riverside on Saturday for the Middlesbrough game v Leeds, my little lad is doing the guard of honor flag parade when the players walk out.

A friend of mine is well up at MFC and after the game I'm going to the players lounge and intend grabbing a word with Nat and Kenneth.

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It's not Chelsea's fault that he's had a poor loan, but it's Chelsea's fault that he's on loan at all. He proved his quality last season, he should be part of the first team squad right now, not out on a pointless loan deal.

Loaning him out in August was the right decision at the time. We already had 5 players for his position and he was never going to get any time on the pitch. Couldn't keep him here in Jan because he had a very bad loan spell.

The lad is still 19. This is only his second season playing competitive football. What's the rush?

[Yeboii 1,844]

I'm going to the Riverside on Saturday for the Middlesbrough game v Leeds, my little lad is doing the guard of honor flag parade when the players walk out.

A friend of mine is well up at MFC and after the game I'm going to the players lounge and intend grabbing a word with Nat and Kenneth.

Tell us how it goes

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The lad is still 19. This is only his second season playing competitive football. What's the rush?

This is a crucial year of development that he'll be pissing away in the Championship. Chelsea can't expect to ever develop any first team players if they're never going to take a chance on these lads.

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This is a crucial year of development that he'll be pissing away in the Championship. Chelsea can't expect to every develop any first team players if they're not going to take a chance on lads.

Would you rather he wastes it here at Chelsea? He's broken into the first team at Boro and getting games. That's already many times better than he would have got here.

Of course we're not going to take a chance on a 19yo, unless he is something like the new Messi. How many games per season at Chelsea can you afford to play a completely inexperienced youngster? You can't do that as a top team because you're expected to win every single game.

Honestly, I don't expect to see Nathanial here for another two season after he's had a few more loans, probably including a PL loan.

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It's not Chelsea's fault that he's had a poor loan, but it's Chelsea's fault that he's on loan at all. He proved his quality last season, he should be part of the first team squad right now, not out on a pointless loan deal.

He was very impressive out on loan last season but there is a big difference in making a mark at a Championship club and being part of a squad that is expected to challenge for all major trophies. Right now he would be no way near the first 11 and would of been the same at the beginning of the season and at his age the most important thing for a footballer is to be playing first team competitive football rather than playing reserve matches so the loan deal helps club and player imo.

[Thomas Williams 166]

How would Chalobah get playing time if 20 million pound Schurrle can't even get any? Jose doesn't like to rotate much, it was definitely a good idea to loan him (especially having MvG here). It's just a shame this one has been such a failure compared to the last.

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Would you rather he wastes it here at Chelsea? He's broken into the first team at Boro and getting games. That's already many times better than he would have got here.

Of course we're not going to take a chance on a 19yo, unless he is something like the new Messi. How many games per season at Chelsea can you afford to play a completely inexperienced youngster? You can't do that as a top team because you're expected to win every single game.

Honestly, I don't expect to see Nathanial here for another two season after he's had a few more loans, probably including a PL loan.

Barcelona give youngsters chances, as did United when they dominated in the Premier League, it's a cop out to say a top team can't do that. Loans to clubs that play a style that is at odds with the parent club serve to do little more than prove a player can cope at that level, so if Chalobah is still being loaned out in two seasons then his career will be on it's arse like McEachran's is, and Chelsea will have ruined another young player's development.