Liam Rosenior Thread

[whats happening 1,660]

psg wasnt even impressive against us either. we are just that shit.

[erinblue 33]

2 minutes ago, Pizy said:

PSG play in a piss easy league compared to us, though. And their league season has been very poor by their standards so it may have had side effects for them. They weren’t impressive in the UCL either until they played us.

They just have so many outrageously good attacking talents that they can still kill anyone even if not at their best.

Prem is a piss poor lge this season too....set piece dark arts specialists Arsenal are top but not running away with it, City are poor as are Pool,  so Arsenal are getting easy....Utd, Chelsea, Villa, Newcastle are shit.....FFS we have Brentford, Brighton Fulham & Everton up there contesting for Europe when every other yr they're relegation fighting....

So I think with PSG is that they feel 'we're the champs we should be winning with ease' but are getting caught out by teams playing cup final games all the time........how we'd love to be in that position but we're caught by teams willing to bloody run & fight more....& press the defence & goalkeeper til the error comes

[Reddish-Blue 2,663]

This guy is out of his depth, should be sacked before the back to back games against United and City. 

Fofana gets cooked in back to back PL games by the same mistake and he keeps starting at CB.   

[Laylabelle 9,711]

This whole thing is bonkers and like the definition of madness.. we're doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result...

We wont get that! They hire crap managers who cant manage and give them stupid contacts! 

[Vytis33 1,373]

Gonna “really really” go for it next season

 

 

[Vytis33 1,373]

 

[Laylabelle 9,711]

4 minutes ago, Vytis33 said:

Gonna “really really” go for it next season

 

 

Yeahhh...nahhhhhh no chance unless something drastic changes and we have many upgrades!

[Vesper 31,035]

WILL ROSENIOR LIFT ENZO FERNANDEZ SUSPENSION? | MOREIRA Chelsea RETURN?

 

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Liam Rosenior's job as Chelsea manager may already be under threat. L’Équipe understands that failure to qualify for next season’s UCL could spell an end to Rosenior’s reign at Stamford Bridge.

(@GFFN)

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💥🔵Liam Rosenior: "I had offers from Champions League clubs before I came here, all around Europe for the work we did at Strasbourg.

If you're thinking of the future, you're not focused on your job. That's never, it never crossed my mind. I just wanted to do the best job for Strasbourg in the moment, and it's taken me here and now, all I want to do is do the best job I possibly can here for as long as possible, because it's a fantastic football club."

(@SkySportsNews)

[Vytis33 1,373]

Started with this now and have Liam Rosenior at the helm

 

 

[OneMoSalah 9,089]

4 hours ago, Vytis33 said:

Started with this now and have Liam Rosenior at the helm

 

 

But he was “difficult to deal with” or “didn’t want to work with the new owners” or whatever other horseshit came out at the time. Bet he probably seen what was coming a mile off.

Still remember folk saying Tuchel was the problem & the new owners made the right call, has gone really really well since then 😂

[Special Juan 28,720]

The project puppet now finding out exactly what it is all about and the club are also....no sympathy what so ever

[Vesper 31,035]

lol, even our own official website is not trying to gaslight...............

 

Liam Rosenior reflects on 'massively disappointing' defeat to Man City

https://www.chelseafc.com/en/news/article/liam-rosenior-reflects-on-massively-disappointing-defeat-to-man-city

Liam Rosenior says our 3-0 defeat to Manchester City was ‘massively disappointing’ and believes the Blues must respond better to setbacks in matches.

For 45 minutes of this afternoon’s contest at Stamford Bridge, Chelsea looked the more likely to take all three points. We had the better of the chances and were unfortunate to have a Marc Cucurella goal ruled out for offside.

However, in the second period, City took control of the game. They went in front through a header from Nico O’Reilly and added a second six minutes later via Marc Guehi.

Jeremy Doku then struck a third to guarantee victory for the visitors and condemn the Blues to a third consecutive defeat in the Premier League.

While pleased with our first-half display, Rosenior accepts our performance in the second period was not at the level required against a side with City's quality.

'Massively disappointing, especially from our first half performance,' reflected our head coach. 'But it's happened too many times [that we've conceded two goals in quick succession].

'Man City start the second half better than us; that can happen against a good team. But what you can't do is concede two goals in the manner that we did, so quickly after one another.

'Again, it comes down to resilience in difficult moments and seeing those moments through and making sure you're still in the game.'

Rosenior continued: 'I felt in the first half, in our defensive structure, we were organised and difficult to break down. We had transition moments and looked to press.

'Cucurella's goal, it's maybe an inch [offside]. I don't even know how close it is to be honest, but they've made their decision.

'I don't want to talk about the positives, though, as the reality is that too many times in a short space of time we've gone a goal down and then it's quickly followed by another. That's something that just can't happen moving forward.'

END

 

"Very immature and physically out-muscled, swatted like a little fly"

The harsh line that hits home

https://siphillipstalkschelsea.substack.com/p/very-immature-and-physically-out

Unfortunately, people like Jamie Carragher and Gary Neville have actually been right about Chelsea all along. I’ve not agreed with EVERYTHING they’ve said, but the bulk of it has always been correct. None of them have liked or agreed with the project since the start, and now, pretty much 99% of the Chelsea fan base are with them.

Maybe it was just refusal to believe the inevitable. Maybe it was just hope in vain. Maybe it was false positivity. Maybe it was our blue tinted glasses. We all tried for some time to hold some sort of belief, but all of that I think has been fully drained from us all, finally.

Chelsea got rolled over in that second half against Manchester City last night, losing 3-0 at home. The fans didn’t even stick around the boo them all off at full time, they have become that sick of it.

“I can’t imagine now where the leadership is coming from in the club. Who’s calming Liam Rosenior down? This is a massive job for him, Chelsea’s a huge football club, and he’s going in at a level he’s never been in before. Who’s actually guiding him right now?,” Gary Neville asked at full time last night.

“What we saw from Chelsea is what Chelsea are. They can be really talented and bright in matches, and in the first half, they did show some elements of that, but then they can look very immature and physically out-muscled, swatted like a little fly.”

That last line is everything in a nutshell. We lack maturity, mentality, physicality, leadership across the whole club, and experience. It’s plain and simple to me.

Neville has seen it for some time. We have all now seen it, some of us actually for some time as well. But the owners are not seeing it. Quite incredible really.

Chelsea are on a slippery slope and falling fast… It pains me so much to watch it happen.

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Chelsea WANT IRAOLA? | FABREGAS TO Chelsea 😱 | ROSENIOR WONT LAST!

Chelsea should not start next season with Liam Rosenior as their manager. With Cesc Fabregas and Andoni Iraola potentially available this summer, would either of them even consider joining Chelsea with the club in serious turmoil? Let me know your thoughts on the next Chelsea manager in the comments below!

[Vesper 31,035]

The eye test and data agree, Liam Rosenior is NOT Chelsea level

When Iraola is free, removing Rosenior is a no brainer

https://siphillipstalkschelsea.substack.com/p/the-eye-test-and-data-agree-liam

This week, via Sky’s Kaveh Solhekol and The Atheltic, Chelsea confirmed again that current Chelsea head coach Liam Rosenior is their man for the long term. The club made clear they have no plans to remove him, even if Chelsea don’t make the Champions League this season.

Now as many know, I’m generally patient when it comes to managers. I am a big fan of stability, I believe its the only way to achieve sustained success, and I want to avoid reactionary short term takes. I stuck by Graham Potter and Enzo Maresca longer than many did. I generally always want managers given time before judging them.

I also don’t like how many managers we’ve been through under the current ownership, so ideally I wouldn’t want another change. But things are getting so bad, it looks inevitable.

I also realise we still have 7 games at least remaining this season, so the timing of this article might appear unhelpful. But I feel this is such an urgent issue, it needs addressing before it gets too late.

Suffice to say, both myself and many many other Chelsea fans have lost faith in Liam Rosenior already. He’s lost support quicker than almost any Chelsea manager in my lifetime. I understand the club are supporting him publicly to present a united front as we end the season, but to me to continue with him beyond the end of the season would be one of the worst and potentially most harmful decisions made by the ownership.

As much as I have huge respect for Daniel Finklestein, I disagree with his assessment on the role of the head coach. He believes it doesn’t impact results, however I believe it has a huge impact on results, performances and on pitch success.

I like Liam Rosenior as a person. He’s shown by his public comments that he knows the responsibility of managing Chelsea, and what is expected by fans. He’s made an effort to connect with fans and respects the club.

He’s also taken full responsibility for the bad results and performances, without fail, even going to fans to apologise. I have a lot of respect for that, because that’s very rare in a coach. He’s clearly a man of integrity who is doing his best.

When criticising a manager social media has a bad habit of dehumanising people, making criticism cruel and vindictive. I don’t sign up to that. I’ve got a lot of criticism for Rosenior for his coaching performance at Chelsea, but that’s as far as it goes.

Rosenior did a fairly good job at Strasbourg as far as I’m concerned, so he’s clearly got potential as a coach. I do believe he’s doing his best to be successful and his intentions are the right ones. I also think him being thrown into the Chelsea job the way it happened, with no time with the players, no pre-season, fatigue and injuries in the squad and the squad not up to standard, was unfair on him, especially given his inexperience. He could hardly turn the job down, and I have no malice towards him whatsoever.

But as a head coach, the objective, unbiased data doesn’t lie. It shows conclusively and definitively that Liam Rosenior is simply not a good enough coach to manage Chelsea.

In 11 PL games under Liam Rosenior we have won 5, lost 4 and drawn 2, a win percentage of about 45%. That’s the lowest in the PL in the modern era bar Graham Potter. In those 11 games, we have 17 points. That’s an average of 1.54 points per game. Over 38 games, that’s 58 points.

If we lose to Man Utd this weekend, Rosenior’s points per game will drop below even Graham Potter’s abysmal 1.42 points per game. That is absolutely horrendous.

CFCCentral recently posted on Twitter, that Chelsea have now lost more games under Rosenior in all competitions - 8 - than they have in the same period in any other PL league season this millennium barring 2022/2023, under Graham Potter.

We’ve also lost 5 of our last 6 games, the only win being at home to Port Vale. Those 5 defeats have an aggregate score of 15-2. Again, embarrassing and unacceptable at Chelsea. Certainly a sacking offence in the past.

We’ve also not kept a clean sheet in the league since the 17th January - literally 3 months and 10 games. In all competitions, we’ve only had four clean sheets in the last 18 games. Against Brentford, Pafos, Hull and Port Vale. Tottenham have literally had 3 managers since the last time we kept a clean sheet in the PL.

Outside Port Vale, we’ve not scored in 4 games, and 3 consecutive PL games. Chelsea have, in fact, lost three consecutive league games without scoring a goal for the first time in 28 years, the kind of record you don’t want to hold. Our last PL win was against Aston Villa on 4th March 2026, 6 weeks ago at time of writing.

Chelsea are 9th in the 2026 PL form table and we’re only a few points above the bottom half of the season table. If our current run keeps going we may not qualify for Europe at all, and could even finish in the bottom half, all of which would be simply disgraceful.

Tactically, Liam Rosenior has done some things right, but he’s also made a lot of mistakes, some bad or just strange substitutions which haven’t made any impact, and he’s potentially driving Josh Acheampong out of the club by not playing him, when at this point, there’s nothing to lose by starting him every game. Many players are regressing under his coaching, bar Jarrol Hato and Joao Pedro. The overall performance levels have gone way down.

Rosenior’s overall record is P21 W11 L8 D2 with a win % of 52%, in the PL his win % is 45%. Graham Potter’s was an abysmal 31.9%, but Rosenior’s % is below every other permanent Chelsea manager since Ruud Gullit. Mauricio Pochettino is just above him at 47%. If Liam keeps losing games, those stats are only going to get worse for him.

As much as I like him as a person, with the greatest of respect, this is simply not good enough for Chelsea Football Club. Even taking into account fatigue, injuries, taking over mid-season, there’s no excuse for such an awful run of form, the consistently poor performances or the poor defensive record. Now we’re not even scoring either, Port Vale apart.

If Liam is kept into next season, the data suggests he loses his job early-mid season due to results. That will mean yet another season at Chelsea is wasted, which could drive more top players away.

On current form we’d be lucky to get a top half finish next season, yet alone get into the Champions League. This is simply not acceptable at this club, and shouldn’t be allowed to happen. Rosenior might be a talented coach, but he is just not Chelsea level right now. He’s done nothing whatsoever to warrant a pre-season or any further games once the season is over.

And frankly it’s obvious to see, to almost everyone.

Chelsea need a proven head coach, someone with a strong reputation and some experience, who can be a leader for the players, improve them and get results even if the team is low on form and confidence. We need a head coach who isn’t learning on the job, who comes in with authority and some experience behind them, and the coaching and tactical prowess to get success consistently, to have a short and long term impact.

That’s the kind of coach you need to give the keys to, and allow to have an impact on recruitment. Not the most unproven coach we’ve hired under this ownership. Enzo Maresca may have had less experience in terms of seasons as a coach, but he’d coached at big clubs, worked with big players and been at big clubs as a player. Liam Rosenior has none of that.

If the club really commits to going for PL proven top players this summer, tweaking the model slightly and adding some healthy experience and proven talent to improve the squad, then give the keys to that to someone who can make the most of those talents. A coach who is respected in the game with a track record. If they actually do that, more managers might actually be open to taking it.

Allowing Liam Rosenior to leave this summer will apparently not cost a thing if we don’t make the Champions League - currently highly unlikely. So its not costly to remove him from his postition. Not only can Chelsea release him for nothing, there’s some coaches who are or will be unemployed this summer, so it will cost nothing to bring in, who can come in with proven ability, a track record, and authority.

The two I’m talking about are Xabi Alonso (if he doesn’t join Liverpool and we can persuade him), and more realistically, Adoni Iraola, who has now confirmed he is leaving Bournemouth at the end of the season.

Alonso we all know about. He did an incredible job at Leverkusen and was unlucky to lose his job at Real Madrid. He’s one of the best young coaches around right now and would be a phenomenal appointment, maybe the best we could make right now. But the likely reality is, he will either go to Liverpool or turn us down anyway.

I’d also add that we’re not capable of attracting, or wouldn’t look at, proven winners right now. The likes of Luis Enrique or Julian Nagelsmann, both of whom are the level of coach Chelsea should be looking at, won’t be interested in Chelsea at the moment, even Frank Lampard doesn’t want to come back. So the field is narrower.

That leaves Adoni Iraola.

Adoni Iraola has the PL experience, has shown tactical flexibility, beaten big teams and shown he can develop players. For where we are, he’s a good fit.

I’ve seen some argue Iraola is another coach who’s come from a smaller club, never faced low blocks, and might struggle to step up a level. Whilst that argument has validity, I think its it’s important to note all elite managers have to start somewhere - and most would start at a club where they don’t face low blocks. The top coaches adapt when they make the step up.

I admit, I was skeptical about Iraola for a time, but he’s adapted himself tactically recently, shifting from his high line in certain games to get results. At time of writing. Bournemouth are 12 PL games unbeaten. He’s beaten some top teams during his time at Bournemouth, most recently Arsenal away, and competed strongly with others (including us under Enzo Maresca this season). As mentioned before, he’s developed young talent, worked in a similar recruitment structure and dealt with key players leaving relatively seamlessly.

Iraola has adapted to what he’s been given, and has Bournemouth competing for European places. The key thing, outside all these factors, and his PL experience, is that is available and will cost nothing in compensation. Chelsea, even with no European football, would be a step up for him. As such, Adoni Iraola is a realistic possibility if we chose to pursue him.

When coaches of this quality are attainable and available for nothing, you have to take notice. Especially if you’re in our situation. We’re getting consistently poor results with a coach who respectfully looks out of his depth, so with all respect to Liam Rosenior, it’s just a no brainer to make the change to Iraola.

Of course there are other serious contenders. Frank Lampard, who’d be a dream choice if they gave him power and influence over team building, won’t come back right now. There’s also Cesc Fabregas at Como, and Porto’s Franciso Farioli, both of whom I really like and would be excellent appointments.

But these kind of appointments will cost more and be more difficult to get out of their current clubs. Indeed Fabregas has publicly committed to Como for next season.

That’s why Iraola is probably the simplest practical solution for where we are as a club, and it’s one which will likely satisfy a lot of fans.

As much as I like and respect Liam Rosenior, and wanted him to succeed, the Chelsea job has come way too soon for him. He’d be best off taking a smaller job in the PL or even Championship, as Lampard did, to gain more experience, before coming to a bigger job again in future if he earns it.

I’ll be honest, I’m slowly becoming a little concerned that if Liam Rosenior stays at Chelsea into next season, and if results and performances continue as they are, the club’s ambitions could be seriously hindered and our reputation be damaged. An early or mid-season change next season would be inevitable on current form.

I’d have little or no faith in achieving European football next year under Rosenior’s coaching. I’d actually be more worried about being in the bottom half of the table if I’m honest. I’m pretty confident most fans are now of the same opinion as me too.

Honestly, I’ve never seen a fanbase so united against a Head Coach before. Rosenior has lost almost the entire fanbase in record time, and once a head coach loses the fans at Chelsea, they rarely get them back. The body language of the players suggests not all of them have faith in Rosenior either.

Of course, as a fan I’ll back Rosenior and the team for the rest of the season, because he’s not leaving during the season, and because I respect him as a person and know he’s doing his best for the club. If he succeeds, Chelsea do, so I’m hoping things change quickly.

I always want Chelsea to win, no matter what, and the talent in the squad is there. But right now, with respect, I have very little faith in Liam Rosenior as the head coach to take the club forward or achieve our ambitions. As always, I’d love to be proved wrong, and will hold my hands up if I am. But right now I just can’t see it, and the longer he stays and the current form continues, the more concerned I will be

Regardless of what happens for the rest of the season, a reset is needed (again) in the summer, from top to bottom, on the football side. That should start with the Sporting Directors (though I know it likely won’t), and should certainly include the head coach and some of the squad too.

Enough mistakes have been made in the current football leadership structure. In my view that needs to change, not just for us to progress as a club, but to avoid us falling down the league even more, both this season and next.

The Score

[Special Juan 28,720]

Deep down I am some what glad this is now starting to hurt, maybe, just maybe this is what was needed to really show the fucking clowns that all this penny pinching and putting in inept players and management is a load of absolute shite.

All that's left now is to get embarrassed at Wembley by Leeds and the season is complete