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53 minutes ago, Pizy said:

What I don’t get is how we went from looking like a slick, cohesive unit the first half of the season under Maresca where Palmer looked like the best player in the league and our attacking football flowed nicely and ever since Christmas time we look like a complete mess so often. Like we haven’t worked on attacking patterns or passing at all.

He’s supposed to be from the school of Pep and yet we look more like a late stage Mourinho team. The difference in technical ability and comfort in possession between us and Flamengo was scary. 

It is simple. It was actually an amalgamation of things. First, we had Poch and his gung ho approach, with no tactics, then Diet Pep with his possession obsessed approach. In the middle, we actually hit the nivarna, where we had a young squad using their enthusiasm and nativity in a way that wasn't necessarily that easy to fathom e.g. see PSG. 

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1 hour ago, Special Juan said:

They are both a problem, thing is no cunt at the club can see it

I really don't like Sanchez, like you I see him for what he is - a middle of the road keeper (at best-) However, anyone who takes this squad and has them playing OAP walking football tactics - despite being one of the youngest squads in Europe - has significantly more to answer for. 

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1 hour ago, King Kante said:

Football is a team game, the overall strategy is given by the manager. Blaming individuals only works when they do something that is clearly not apart of the strategy.

That aside, who actually beings on Jackson in a situation like he did? I mean do you need day to day with Jackson and still not know sending him on in a game where you're chasing - just after he has lost his starting position - in a game against a sh*thouse Brazilian team is a bad idea? 

Honestly, people that don't see Diet Pep is 99.99% of the problem is deluded. 

I don’t care about strategy as this point, it’s the same shit every week shite! What I want is at least a bit of effort and basic passing and man marking done correctly, it’s fucking basic grass roots level type shit, we can put effort in for last 10 mins but not for 80 it’s bollocks, the manager is shit and the tactics are fucking pond life, but the players are also to blame and the manager can’t be used as a cop out for nearly all these players not been good enough to start with 

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4 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

If Santos or Lavia started today, we come away with at least a point. I can't stand Maresca's insistence on playing James as a MF. 

I can’t stand this 4231 bollocks, with out players it needs to be 433 Cole is fucking useless as a 10 

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53 minutes ago, Vesper said:

who would you like to see as our manager?

At this point, I am beyond caring unfortunately....don't trust these lot to choose sensibly. Not to mention that managers might be reluctant to join. Poch left after 1 season., and Enrique/Naggelsman turned us down.

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1 hour ago, YorkshireBlue said:

I don’t care about strategy as this point, it’s the same shit every week shite! What I want is at least a bit of effort and basic passing and man marking done correctly, it’s fucking basic grass roots level type shit, we can put effort in for last 10 mins but not for 80 it’s bollocks, the manager is shit and the tactics are fucking pond life, but the players are also to blame and the manager can’t be used as a cop out for nearly all these players not been good enough to start with 

At Sunday league this is an argument. At elite level it is not.

Literally, you're acting like every boy/man at top level has not had to graft to make them stand above 100,000's of boys' to allow them to earn £10,000's+ a week. You do know that youth football is absolutely cut throat? Every year there are 100,000's of 13-17 year old boys in various academies - across the world in total - who get told they sold their childhood chasing a dream and now won't make it, right? 

Yet, those boys that do make it, don't know how to graft? OK.

It is definitely that and not that since 7 years old they've been told to follow the manager's/coaches instructions......Literally only guys like Jackson - who I actually stand up for (owing to his footballing education - see how he was still playing barefoot at 15/16 - who have an argument ) Hence, why I asked you if you felt bringing him on 2-1 down in that situation was a good idea?

Either way, it is clear you think the players are them problem because they do not know how to graft. Maybe you're right, but it just doesn't seem logical to me. 

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2 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

Tunis won against Los Angeles. Draw is enough for us to secure 2nd place. 

Don't tell Enzo M that, playing for draws in the most boring fashion and playing down to the ability of the other side and still struggling is his forte. 

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