Chelsea 2-1 Bournemouth

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[Vesper 28,621]

22 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

Today was the last game for Brian Pullman after 56 years as club's press steward.

[Fernando 6,436]

10 hours ago, Thor said:

Cheaters gonna cheat.

Or pep is the best manager since saf. 

Because we and and united spend a lot of money like them and still are nowhere near. 

So more like haters are going to be haters. Can't admit to greatness when in front because of hatred.... 

[Thor 2,392]

10 minutes ago, Fernando said:

Or pep is the best manager since saf. 

Because we and and united spend a lot of money like them and still are nowhere near. 

So more like haters are going to be haters. Can't admit to greatness when in front because of hatred.... 

He is good. Clearly. The best? No. 

Pep has only ever gone to the teams with the best talent. City was the best team in the world talent wise before he got there - then they bolstered it even more. 

Bayern was the best talent wise at the time too. 

City was better at recruitment than us for long before Pep was there. They were already finding better value and promising youngsters before us. 

Then we find out they have 115 accusations. That is - cheating. Once found out. Where there is smoke there is fire. 

[bigbluewillie 1,856]

It’s a farce this FA cup admittance into to the ropey cup, we’ve done it genuinely only to get fucked by Manure if they win the Cup.

And...

Cool Palmer looked totally pissed off yesterday during the game, it was his worst game for us since he’s been here.

He was really really poor did not look happy at all, I think he was rueing the fact he left Shitty and would be lifting the League title, instead of this mess.

[Reddish-Blue 2,333]

1 hour ago, bigbluewillie said:

I think he was rueing the fact he left Shitty and would be lifting the League title, instead of this mess.

Yea I'm sure he would be way more happy lifting the league title as a bench player with around 5 goal contributions all season. 

He's probably mad seeing his mates lift the trophy but he chose to be a first team player and ended with 33 goal contributions and he's definitely in the mix for the Euros squad for England. 

[Reddish-Blue 2,333]

2 hours ago, Thor said:

City was the best team in the world talent wise before he got there - then they bolstered it even more. 

No they weren't, they weren't fighting for the title the 2 seasons before Pep got there in the 16-17 season.  

He spend a ton of money and made them the best team in the league but the team that was left behind post Mancini/Pellegrini needed a clean out to take that next step and not only win the league but also do it in the UCL. 

[Fernando 6,436]

2 hours ago, Thor said:

He is good. Clearly. The best? No. 

Pep has only ever gone to the teams with the best talent. City was the best team in the world talent wise before he got there - then they bolstered it even more. 

Bayern was the best talent wise at the time too. 

City was better at recruitment than us for long before Pep was there. They were already finding better value and promising youngsters before us. 

Then we find out they have 115 accusations. That is - cheating. Once found out. Where there is smoke there is fire. 

Again hater talking. 

At Chelsea with the same amount of money and we are not there. 

United has spends a lot of money and nowhere near there. 

[Clockwork 1,794]

1 hour ago, Fernando said:

Again hater talking. 

At Chelsea with the same amount of money and we are not there. 

United has spends a lot of money and nowhere near there. 

 Give the people who run City a lot more credit though. They have used their money much better than us and United. They have given Pep whatever he needed to succeed. 

 

[bluesman2610 1,339]

37 minutes ago, Clockwork said:

 Give the people who run City a lot more credit though. They have used their money much better than us and United. They have given Pep whatever he needed to succeed. 

 

This is what you get with manager stability you can say the same about Klopp and Liverpool to a lesser extent. If they jumped ship on Klopp first season where he finished 8th they wouldn’t have had the success they’ve achieved either. We need stability.

[Thor 2,392]

10 hours ago, Reddish-Blue said:

No they weren't, they weren't fighting for the title the 2 seasons before Pep got there in the 16-17 season.  

He spend a ton of money and made them the best team in the league but the team that was left behind post Mancini/Pellegrini needed a clean out to take that next step and not only win the league but also do it in the UCL. 

Absolute nonsense.

In 13/14 they won the title with the 2nd biggest goal difference in league history at the time. 

In 14/15 - they come 2nd after again having by far the biggest goal difference in the league. 

15/16 - they stumble just like every other team and Leicester has a historic season never before seen. 

 

Am I to believe Leicester was more talented than them when Pep took over? Or Tottenham and Arsenal? They pumped us 3-0 both times they played us that season.

City the prior 5 years to Pep joining were doing a shit tonne better than us buying, and then add on top the unlimited spending post that. KDB, Toure, Silva, Aguero, Fernandinho, Sterling, Kompany... 

Our two CL winning teams weren't that talented. The majority of these guys were in their prime when Pep took over. Or entering.

[Thor 2,392]

10 hours ago, Fernando said:

Again hater talking. 

At Chelsea with the same amount of money and we are not there. 

United has spends a lot of money and nowhere near there. 

No one here got to inherit what Pep did. They inherited a sub 40 goal scoring a season team.

Adjust the majority of City's spend for inflation and those numbers would be fun to look at too. 

City as a team have been far better run that us 5+ years before Pep came in. Buying the right talent, building a style of football internally amongst the ranks, etc.

Pep does what he always does - takes over the far and away best team, keeps spending, and coaches wins.

[robsblubot 3,482]

1 hour ago, Thor said:

No one here got to inherit what Pep did. They inherited a sub 40 goal scoring a season team.

Adjust the majority of City's spend for inflation and those numbers would be fun to look at too. 

City as a team have been far better run that us 5+ years before Pep came in. Buying the right talent, building a style of football internally amongst the ranks, etc.

Pep does what he always does - takes over the far and away best team, keeps spending, and coaches wins.

There are quite a few clubs which are well-run and don't really compete for anything substantial.

City have little to show for all that good business until Pep changed their mentality and the way to play football. Pep is also very particular in what he wants from the players they sign in terms of characteristics.
Their defenders are all very comfortable going past the midfield line for example--that's very particular to that style Pep uses.

No-one is saying the club isn't well-run (not to mention filthy rich), but not acknowledging Pep's success is bit a strange tbh.

Edited May 20 by robsblubot

[Clockwork 1,794]

21 hours ago, bluesman2610 said:

This is what you get with manager stability you can say the same about Klopp and Liverpool to a lesser extent. If they jumped ship on Klopp first season where he finished 8th they wouldn’t have had the success they’ve achieved either. We need stability.

You don't think United were patient enough with Ole Gunnar or ETG?

 

[Clockwork 1,794]

12 hours ago, robsblubot said:

There are quite a few clubs which are well-run and don't really compete for anything substantial.

City have little to show for all that good business until Pep changed their mentality and the way to play football. Pep is also very particular in what he wants from the players they sign in terms of characteristics.
Their defenders are all very comfortable going past the midfield line for example--that's very particular to that style Pep uses.

No-one is saying the club isn't well-run (not to mention filthy rich), but not acknowledging Pep's success is bit a strange tbh.

City hired former Barcas Txiki Begristain and Ferran Soriano in 2012, and hired Pep in 2016. They planned this for a while, and it was inevitable that Pep was going to coach in the PL and manage City. They shifted their playing with Manuel Pellegrini, and obviously went up another notch under Pep.

Great planning and vision by City.

To me the best way to run a club is have a clear vision of the club, have the structure above the manager. The manager is an extension of the club vision and planning.

[bluesman2610 1,339]

49 minutes ago, Clockwork said:

You don't think United were patient enough with Ole Gunnar or ETG?

 

They were the wrong fit for their project 

[robsblubot 3,482]

3 hours ago, Clockwork said:

City hired former Barcas Txiki Begristain and Ferran Soriano in 2012, and hired Pep in 2016. They planned this for a while, and it was inevitable that Pep was going to coach in the PL and manage City. They shifted their playing with Manuel Pellegrini, and obviously went up another notch under Pep.

Great planning and vision by City.

To me the best way to run a club is have a clear vision of the club, have the structure above the manager. The manager is an extension of the club vision and planning.

Heh I remember pellegrini’s city — nothing special.

Yes, the club had a clear vision. They wanted to play in that particular style; style which Pep authored. Pep successfully implemented that style everywhere he went, so they knew exactly what they were going to get with him.

[YorkshireBlue 3,118]

18 hours ago, Thor said:

No one here got to inherit what Pep did. They inherited a sub 40 goal scoring a season team.

Adjust the majority of City's spend for inflation and those numbers would be fun to look at too. 

City as a team have been far better run that us 5+ years before Pep came in. Buying the right talent, building a style of football internally amongst the ranks, etc.

Pep does what he always does - takes over the far and away best team, keeps spending, and coaches wins.

But that's what pep has earned, he isn't manager to go to a struggling team, he's a manager to go to a good team and turn them into one of the best teams in the world...... He goes to these teams because he can, and they want him, and he's top of the pile on every clubs manager shortlist? He's done that he's created that, you can't take that away from him regardless what you think, it's a ridiculous argument.

Edited May 21 by YorkshireBlue