25. Moisés Caicedo

[King Kante 1,643]

On 03/11/2024 at 20:26, King Kante said:

Still not my type of player in the possession side of the game. However, with his finish to last season and his start to this season I can admit I was wrong about my judgement of this guy. 

Srating to think my initial opinion was of him correct. I still do not see what everyone sees in this guy. If ever there was a chance for him to prove he is a big time player, it was the past three months. However, without Lavia he is still just tackling very clumsily and not having any effect on any game he plays.

Edited March 10 by King Kante

[DDA 9,924]

2 hours ago, King Kante said:

Srating to think my initial opinion was of him correct. I still do not see what everyone sees in this guy. If ever there was a chance for him to prove he is a big time player, it was the past three months. However, without Lavia he is still just tackling very clumsily and not having any effect on any game he plays.

Not having any effect on any game he plays?? 
 

I wouldn’t go that far. He is genuinely, along with Cucurella, the most consistent player in the squad.

Could he do more with the ball? Yes! Although he is playing alongside statues in attack. If there was more movement like earlier in the season, he would be more effective in going forward.

[King Kante 1,643]

1 hour ago, DDA said:

Not having any effect on any game he plays?? 
 

I wouldn’t go that far. He is genuinely, along with Cucurella, the most consistent player in the squad.

Could he do more with the ball? Yes! Although he is playing alongside statues in attack. If there was more movement like earlier in the season, he would be more effective in going forward.

Just out of interest what games in the last three months has he elevated the team, beyond winning the ball in fairly clumsy/rash fashion? 

[Stats 7,135]

6 hours ago, King Kante said:

Srating to think my initial opinion was of him correct. I still do not see what everyone sees in this guy. If ever there was a chance for him to prove he is a big time player, it was the past three months. However, without Lavia he is still just tackling very clumsily and not having any effect on any game he plays.

I think you are totally of it. He is consistent virtually every game for us. He makes the odd rash tackle because of the role he plays, however he is consistently good. Albeit against relegation fodder, he was top class yesterday and made very good tackles which he had to be very careful of, knowing a yellow he would miss both Arsenal and Spurs. Yeah, I find this quite odd you said this as in the past 3 months, I would say, he has been more consistent than Palmer.

As in for him not having any effect, he is regularly controlling games and even though he makes clumsy challenges which is normal when you are playing a 4-2-3-1 and not next to another DM who pushes forward, he is making very good challenges too. This stat was a month ago, in which since we have had a break and I doubt this has changed significantly since.

People actually underrate how good his passing is also. His for Palmer against Villa 3 weeks ago is forgotten about because Palmer missed but remember that chance where Martinez slipped and Palmer failed to capitalise in the game few weeks ago, Caicedo was the one who played him in and that was a top pass, which he has done a few times this season. Palmer had a similar chance against Southampton where he was played in and Ramsdale saved. I am not 100% sure on this one, but that may well have been Caicedo who played him in again. He defo made the pass against Villa though where Palmer somehow missed.

Yeah, I feel even when he makes the odd clumsy foul, he is still influential in virtually every game for us and he is crucial. If you are not seeing what everyone else sees, I struggle to see what you are observing then unless you are just looking for faults. Mac Allister has around 9/10 yellow card for Liverpool in all competitions this season and he plays a in a midfield 4-3-3 where is more protected but still makes fouls out of sometimes necessity and being clumsy, but he remains crucial to how Liverpool play. Caicedo has got silly yellows like the one against Villa for dissent and Southampton one was avoidable, but his performances have remained consistent.

[Thor 2,688]

He is a weapon. 

They need to start playing someone next to him so he can build from the back not just have 5 players converge on him. 

[Mhsc 1,091]

14 hours ago, King Kante said:

Just out of interest what games in the last three months has he elevated the team, beyond winning the ball in fairly clumsy/rash fashion? 

Every single one of them

We'd be midtable without him

[King Kante 1,643]

2 hours ago, Mhsc said:

Every single one of them

We'd be midtable without him

Funny you say that because in the last ten games we have been midtable. https://www.footballwebpages.co.uk/premier-league/form-guide/ten

Either way, he had to start those games as we had no one else. However, I just don't see how he impacts games apart from being a scrappy ball winner. I just expected more from him considering the way people spoke about him prior to coming. Either way, he'll be starting for the foreseeable. Hopefully he'll pick up the purple patch he had at the end of last season and at the start of this again at some point. 

[Vesper 30,083]

35 minutes ago, King Kante said:

I just don't see how he impacts games apart from being a scrappy ball winner. I just expected more from him considering the way people spoke about him prior to coming.

 

[Vesper 30,083]

Chelsea star who hasn't missed a game at risk of ban for Tottenham & Brentford because of Premier League rule

https://www.londonworld.com/sport/football/Chelsea/Chelsea-caicedo-suspension-yellow-cards-spurs-brentford-5035099

Chelsea will look to keep their bid for a Champions League place on track as they travel to take on Arsenal at the Emirates Stadium on Sunday afternoon. Ahead of the weekend, the Blues are inside the top four, two points behind Nottingham Forest in third.

The Stamford Bridge outfit are two points above Manchester City and Newcastle United while Brighton are just three points behind in seventh spot. Victory over Arsenal would give their top four hopes a significant boost and further decimate Arsenal’s chances of winning the title.

Maresca admits his long-term goal is to better compete with Arsenal moving forward. He said: “The gap right now is quite big, and the reason why is because they are working with the same manager for five years, so the difference is quite important.

“With the same players, they have already played in some important games, but our target and duty is to close that gap between us and them. In this moment, the table shows the difference is six points, so we are quite close and have ten games to go. We’re not focused on whether they can be three, six or nine [points ahead]. We are focused on our game and how we try to beat them. Hopefully, we can beat them and we will be closer.’”

Premier League suspension rules

Ahead of their clash with Arsenal, the Blues have one player who is facing a two-game ban after picking up an astonishing five yellow cards in his last seven games. Premier League rules state that any players who collect 10 yellow cards in their club’s first 32 games will be handed a two-match suspension. Will Hughes of Crystal Palace and Fulham’s Sasa Lukic are the first two players to hit the 10-caution mark this season but a clutch of players have been booked nine times so far.

One of those is Moises Caicedo, who has really racked the bookings up in recent games. The £115m signing from Brighton has been booked against Wolves, Man City, Brighton, Aston Villa and Southampton. In his last seven games the only matches he wasn’t booked in was against West Ham and the most recent win over Leicester City. If the Ecuadorian picks up a caution against Arsenal, he will be banned for games against Tottenham Hotspur and Brentford after the international break.

Caicedo has played every Premier League game for Chelsea

Caicedo has started all 28 of Chelsea’s Premier League games so far this season, and has been named captain on a handful of occasions by Maresca. The Chelsea boss is clearly a fan of the midfielder, as evidenced by his comments on him last month.

 

Maresca said in early February: “Since we started he has been doing fantastic in all aspects. He’s improving a lot, he’s understanding the game, he’s going in different positions and he’s open-minded. He’s a good guy, he’s humble, he works hard, so for a coach he is the perfect player.

“He’s playing a lot of minutes, but I think if you compare to other players at Liverpool, Arsenal or Manchester City, there are many players that play more than Moi is playing for us. Moi is playing more or less one game a week and at 23 if you cannot play one game a week that means there is something wrong.”

[Stats 7,135]

Palmer will be a candidate but has dipped second half, however nevertheless he still has been good. Cucurella been good  too, however for me Caicedo is our POTS. He was brilliant again tonight. Absolutely phenomenal. What a performance. His tackling is so on point and the way he controls the game in possession also is really impressive. You know he has been very good when no one discusses the price tag anymore. @King Kantemay disagree though.

[Fulham Broadway 17,299]

Solid and flashes of brilliance - you can see why the bindippers wanted him so much

[Fernando 6,585]

We have truly been bless having these types of players. 

Maka, Essien, Kante and now Caicedo. 

Long may it continue.