The Next Manager?

[The only place to be 11,313]

Don't talk about things you don't know.

I posted this is the Rafa out thread but I suppose it's better here...

The only argument against Moyes being a top manager is for a club like Everton he should have won a trophy, yet most people don't realise just how shit we were when he took over and the following proves that. He took over at the near on end of the 2001-02 season and here are the finishes we had not long before that.

96/97 - 15th

97/98 - 17th

98/99 - 14th

99/00 - 13th

00/01 - 16th

01/02 - 15th

Considering in his first season, first XI was:

------------------------------Richard Wright-----------------------------

Tony Hibbert------David Weir---------Alan Stubbs----David Unsworth

Thomas Gravesen----Li Tie----------Lee Carsley-----Gary Naismith---

---------------Thomasz Radzinski-------Kevin Campbell----------------

That team was somehow guided to 7th place in Moyes' first proper season, you look at that team and let's be honest it is a relegation team which was reflected the next season when we finished 17th in 03-04

Then we finished 4th in the 04-05 season when we were one of the favourites for relegation and had sold Rooney to Manchester United. Now, lets be honest here that's an absolutely amazing thing to do after finishing 17th and selling your best player for £27m and only spending £8m to cover it in transfers. I don't think many managers could have done that.

After crashing out of the champions league qualifiers to a very tough draw against Villareal we finished 11th the following year.

After that we had succession of top six finishes for 4 years before finishing 8th, 7th and 7th which brings us up to now.

Consider that when David Moyes took over, we'd only finished in the top ten once since the premier league began. In 10 years on a shoe string budget (5.6m net spend since he arrived) he has 8 top 8 finishes under his belt.

David Moyes has transformed Everton into an competitive side in my opinion. Sometimes in cups you need luck, had we beat Fiorentina on penalties in 07 we'd have faced PSV in the quarter finals of the Uefa Cup in the 07-08 season and who knows what could have happened from there considering we had already beat the eventual winners. We could have won the FA Cup in 09 but just came short.

You look at the team I posted at the top and if I told you at the time that Everton would be competing for Europe regularly in ten years time with a net spend of around £5m in the next ten years then I'm pretty sure all of us would be amazed.

I think all that is worth a lot more than a few cup wins. What do you think Birmingham City would have preferred, the league cup or the above?

However, I really can't see Moyes going to Chelsea, one thing he often eludes to is that he has a perfect relationship with Bill Kenwright, our chairman. I don't think he believes that Roman could offer the same thing.

As for the style of football, the better players he has, the better the football. we've played some great stuff this season.

Great post, very informative.

My problem with Moyes is not that he's done great things despite having to sell his best player and work with comparative peanuts, but that at Chelsea he'd have to do essentially the complete opposite. He'd be under no pressure to sell his best youngsters, he'd have maybe treble the budget and he'd be on a bigger stage (with all respect to Everton).

He's done amazing work but the types of challenges he'd face would be completely different. I like him, but it would be a gamble.

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Eva Caneiro :blue scalf:

NO WAY, she will be sacked!

[Pizy 18,848]

NO WAY, she will be sacked!

She can sack me any time she want to.

[Fulham Broadway 17,299]

NO WAY, she will be sacked!

But then there will be all the media stories feeling sorry for her, how football has rejected her, with sultry poses, and she will resort becoming a Playboy centrefold.

Possibly.

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Francois Piraux ‏@F8Piraux

Jose Mourinho has been in contact with Chelsea's owner Abramovich and senior Chelsea players and staff. (Express Sport) #CFC#TheSpecialOne

[Jase 43,479]

Well well well, what do we have here?

[Muzchap 8,966]

Well well well, what do we have here?

Hmm Daily Express? I doubt it's true TBH...

Jose has always been in touch with Senior Players and Backroom Staff (those that have survived)... Another load of shit, building up hope and then watching it crumble...

Wow - I'm positive today

[Krypt 241]

Hmm Daily Express? I doubt it's true TBH...

Jose has always been in touch with Senior Players and Backroom Staff (those that have survived)... Another load of shit, building up hope and then watching it crumble...

Wow - I'm positive today

You would most likely be more positive if it came from a reliable source

I am trying not to get my hopes up to be honest , also would Jose want to come back here ? he likes his new challenges.....

[bushman 2,043]

When Jose speaks, he is usually full of sarcasm. Will Roman ever hires him again ? I doubt it. Even though, I would like to see him at Chelsea one more time.

[Muzchap 8,966]

You would most likely be more positive if it came from a reliable source

I am trying not to get my hopes up to be honest , also would Jose want to come back here ? he likes his new challenges.....

Yup - agreed... Just hate the absolute bullshit media stories about CFC...

I would like Mourinho back, but something tells me it could never be the same, so if he doesnt come back - cool... It's like breaking up with a bird, missing her, getting back together only to break up again - because the same problems were always there...

I don't know - but hopefully this season will have shocked the Board + Roman into realising this 'Manager merry-go-round' is benefitting precisely no-one!

[Slam Dunk 1,442]

Due to the lack of options*, and now that Guardiola's out of the picture, I have a strong feeling it'll be either Benitez or Jose at the helm next season.

*Obviously things could change in the summer, but as of now I can't see anyone else in the frame.

[Jase 43,479]

I am trying not to get my hopes up to be honest , also would Jose want to come back here ? he likes his new challenges.....

Not to say we are completely far off or anything but bringing us back to the summit of English football and building a team filled with talented players would surely represent some form of challenge that any manager would like(assuming Roman stays patient), no?