The Next Manager?

[Santiago. 1,500]

If Benitez is still managing us next year and Torres is still starting, there is no way i'm watching a single game until those two clowns fuck off

[Santiago. 1,500]

I dont think Mourinho would even consider managing another club than Chelsea imo. He has always been contacting us in every way when he was in Italy and now in Spain, just look at last season

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmlWzvhUBqk

[Sheva. 5,373]

I wouldn't mind Pellegrini.

[The Mak 4,459]

Not publicly of course, but hiring Jose is, or rather looks like, admitting he was wrong to sack him. But I don't that will be the biggest issue. The issue is that Jose knows that he will have much more security at City whereas here a run of bad games is enough to get him sacked.

How?

Fact is, if José ends up here next season, it pretty much dispels this notion.

As you said, if we hire him, Roman is basically admitting he was wrong. Therefore, if this indeed does happen, there's a big probability José would be given free reign over pretty much everything at the club. If anything, I'd guess he'd have more security if he came here, rather than working under Bergiristain at City: a man who was, apparently, against his application to become Barca's manager.

We're in a pretty desperate situation regarding the manager department, no Pep, no Klopp, etc. So I wouldn't be surprised if we went all out for José and promised him he could do whatever he wanted; which I, personally, feel would only be a good thing, considering the ineptitude of our board.

[OneMoSalah 8,776]

Mourinho would be perfect in a way because hes a winner and some of these players we have with less experience and a frailer mentalility could do with a kick up the arse but yet again as soon as hes won everything he will probably fuck off like he did at Inter which doesn't make him perfect.

[Funkyflashman 187]

Jose please come home

[Blue Gino 377]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGg3SRVHTuk

[CHOULO19 24,332]

I dont think so. I really believe Mourinho would have more security here. He will have 110% of everyone's support and by hiring him RA will be stating he is aware there arent any more options on he market.

I trully think he would be like God here, his ego cant ask for much.

As far as money and players, nothing that a 150mi transfer window and Mourinho's tactics cant handle, lol.

His ego won't be able to handle getting sacked twice by the same team which will most likely happen if he joins us. And how can he have more security here than City? If Mancini was our manager, he wouldn't have lasted 2 months!

1. How many rich, powerful men do you know who aren't prepared to put success before their egos? Because they aren't going to be rich men for long.

2. How much control would he have under Begiristain?

1) We're talking about the man who still won't admit that he made a mistake by buying Torres and still insists that the manager plays him.

2) That's a completely different situation. Jose has history here, and one of the main reasons for the problems with the board when he was here was the of control he had over transfers especially Shevshenko.

How?

Fact is, if José ends up here next season, it pretty much dispels this notion.

As you said, if we hire him, Roman is basically admitting he was wrong. Therefore, if this indeed does happen, there's a big probability José would be given free reign over pretty much everything at the club. If anything, I'd guess he'd have more security if he came here, rather than working under Bergiristain at City: a man who was, apparently, against his application to become Barca's manager.

We're in a pretty desperate situation regarding the manager department, no Pep, no Klopp, etc. So I wouldn't be surprised if we went all out for José and promised him he could do whatever he wanted; which I, personally, feel would only be a good thing, considering the ineptitude of our board.

The first part does not necessarily imply the second. Remember AVB? Roman promised him time and believed in his project so much so that AVB said he sees him self still at Chelsea in 10 years and in the end all he got was 8-9 months. Roman likes to show everyone who is boss, don't think that's going to change anytime soon.

[Peppen 934]

I too consider City as the most likely destination, not considering stories in newspapers, but just my gut feeling. I would certainly love to have the Special One make his return to the Bridge, but right now I don't think we should get too excited about it.

[The only place to be 11,313]

His ego won't be able to handle getting sacked twice by the same team which will most likely happen if he joins us. And how can he have more security here than City? If Mancini was our manager, he wouldn't have lasted 2 months!

1) We're talking about the man who still won't admit that he made a mistake by buying Torres and still insists that the manager plays him.

2) That's a completely different situation. Jose has history here, and one of the main reasons for the problems with the board when he was here was the of control he had over transfers especially Shevshenko.

The first part does not necessarily imply the second. Remember AVB? Roman promised him time and believed in his project so much so that AVB said he sees him self still at Chelsea in 10 years and in the end all he got was 8-9 months. Roman likes to show everyone who is boss, don't think that's going to change anytime soon.

So you're saying an egotistical man is worried about what will happen if he gets sacked? In my experience, egotistical men don't tend to countenance failure when approaching a new task. I think he's the same. In fact Chelsea have gone through about eight managers since he left and finished outside the top four last year. The bar has been set fairly low.

Roman is not a stupid man by the way. Torres cost £50 million so of course they need to try and make that deal work but he's shown he's capable of learning the error of his ways. In fact isn't every sacking of a manager a tacit admission of failure when appointing them? Wouldn't a man capable of admitting he made a mistake still have Scolari or AVB in charge?

It may well be a slightly different situation, but there's still history with the Barcelona guys and Mourinho comes with a lot of baggage. They've shown a dislike for such shit with Balotelli, although they did stick with Tevez. I don't think Citeh are the type of club we are, or the type of club that suits Mourinho. We've always been a glamourous club who place a premium on style (which is why it pisses me off when people moan about us going for the glamour names or the drama attached to the club) and we've got that arrogant swagger that Mourinho has. It's why he was such a great fit for us in the first place and why someone like Benitez would never be right even if he didn't have his history with the club.

[bushman 2,043]

Jose might have an arrogant swagger but he just might get away with it.

He breeds confidence, sureness, know-how, tactical genius, simply the best & nothing else.

[Hamilton 2,120]

Relax guys, tonight is the first step for José to come back to us, #rmmu

[Stingray 9,441]

Relax guys, tonight is the first step for José to come back to us, #rmmu

I hope so!

[Rmpr 8,977]

His ego won't be able to handle getting sacked twice by the same team which will most likely happen if he joins us. And how can he have more security here than City? If Mancini was our manager, he wouldn't have lasted 2 months!

What Manicini has to do with all of this? He wouldnt even get the job in the first place, but if he did he would get sacked just like all the other managers (wait, isnt the fatty still here?)...

However, Mourinho is a totally different case. Roman and Jose are like ex-boyfriend/ex-girlfriend, one will only search for the other when they have no one else left. Mourinho has no other option besides England; there are no good teams needing a manager in Germany, Barcelona wont hire him and he wont go to a free-falling Italy. There are some very clear signs showing he wants Ferguson job and by going to ManCity he will totally ruin the chance of doing so, he still has a slight chance by choosing to go with us though. Abramovch has everything but good options; apart from Klopp, Simeone (which I dont like) and Moyes, everyone else is either unavailable or has been already sacked. From the 3 good options, 1 wont definetly come (and why should he?) and 2 dont trigger any interest in RA that would make him give them the time needed. Neither Jose nor Roman will be extremely happy about it, but I think they will do it for lack of better options.

Also, if the two go back together, it will probably be in common agreement. Something that will favour both sides. Mourinho will get the power he so desperatly wants and RA will get the trophies and media exposure he also enjoys. They will both give up on some picky aspects so they can thrive once again. I see it being one of the most secured jobs a manager can have, even Moyes would be jealous...

Our last 3 managers only serve to prove managers need time and support. Mourinho will simply have more support than anyone I can imagine and if RDM got a warm atmosphere from the fans, Mourinho will easily double that. The fans love him, the media miss him and The FA will love the extra attention it will get (with Bundesliga so close to it). Parting ways with Jose will be more than risky to Roman, it will probably end his aspiration to make Chelsea the biggest club in the world. The rage will be unimaginable. It will need way, way more than a set of 5 bad games for him to get sacked, it would need a season like this (with a 6th place in the league) to get him sacked and with the amount of money he will have that wont ever happen.

Jose will have full control of our squad and he is known to buy some star players (which will make Roman happy). It will be honeymoon for the first 3-4 years and after that things will get serious and dangerous. We dont know how long Mourinho will want to stay or how long Roman will be willing to give up on his sayings. Even with that, it wont be an easy "just sack him" or "I will just leave", it will be hard. I dont see it hurting Mourinho's ego if he had another successful spell. I prefer 3-4 great years and another hard time breaking, than what we are getting.

With that being said, how is this bad for Jose Mourinho's ego or how will Chelsea sack him again?

[Mufassir08 2,400]

Nicely said rmpr.My first choice has always been klopp but if he aint coming then we should do anything and everything in our power to get mourinho back.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

However, Mourinho is a totally different case. Roman and Jose are like ex-boyfriend/ex-girlfriend, one will only search for the other when they have no one else left. Mourinho has no other option besides England; there are no good teams needing a manager in Germany, Barcelona wont hire him and he wont go to a free-falling Italy. There are some very clear signs showing he wants Ferguson job and by going to ManCity he will totally ruin the chance of doing so, he still has a slight chance by choosing to go with us though.

Why? In the last few seasons, we've been more of rivals for utd than City. If managing another team will ruin his chances at Utd, then his chances have already been ruined during his time here.

Abramovch has everything but good options; apart from Klopp, Simeone (which I dont like) and Moyes, everyone else is either unavailable or has been already sacked. From the 3 good options, 1 wont definetly come (and why should he?) and 2 dont trigger any interest in RA that would make him give them the time needed. Neither Jose nor Roman will be extremely happy about it, but I think they will do it for lack of better options.

You are right about this, but you miss one huge point: Jose does not have leave Madrid this season. When he says his next destination will be England, he doesn't necessarily anytime soon.

Also, if the two go back together, it will probably be in common agreement. Something that will favour both sides. Mourinho will get the power he so desperatly wants and RA will get the trophies and media exposure he also enjoys. They will both give up on some picky aspects so they can thrive once again. I see it being one of the most secured jobs a manager can have, even Moyes would be jealous...

A lot of stuff in there depend on lots of "if"s. Absolutely no guarantee that Jose will get the control or that the trophies would be flooding in if he does.

Our last 3 managers only serve to prove managers need time and support. Mourinho will simply have more support than anyone I can imagine and if RDM got a warm atmosphere from the fans, Mourinho will easily double that. The fans love him, the media miss him and The FA will love the extra attention it will get (with Bundesliga so close to it). Parting ways with Jose will be more than risky to Roman, it will probably end his aspiration to make Chelsea the biggest club in the world. The rage will be unimaginable. It will need way, way more than a set of 5 bad games for him to get sacked, it would need a season like this (with a 6th place in the league) to get him sacked and with the amount of money he will have that wont ever happen.

Again I go back to AVB who cost more than any other manager did in history. He had a "mission" that Roman gave him. Roman promised him time and genuinely believed in him but ended up sacking him 7 months into the season. There is no evidence yet to show that Roman has realized he needs to give managers more time.

Jose will have full control of our squad and he is known to buy some star players (which will make Roman happy). It will be honeymoon for the first 3-4 years and after that things will get serious and dangerous. We dont know how long Mourinho will want to stay or how long Roman will be willing to give up on his sayings. Even with that, it wont be an easy "just sack him" or "I will just leave", it will be hard. I dont see it hurting Mourinho's ego if he had another successful spell. I prefer 3-4 great years and another hard time breaking, than what we are getting.

3-4 years? I wouldn't bet on him surviving 2 seasons here! We are a young inexperienced team; I doubt we can reproduce the 04-05 and 05-06 success that kept him here 3 and a half years the last time.

With that being said, how is this bad for Jose Mourinho's ego or how will Chelsea sack him again?

Think I answered those above.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

So you're saying an egotistical man is worried about what will happen if he gets sacked? In my experience, egotistical men don't tend to countenance failure when approaching a new task. I think he's the same. In fact Chelsea have gone through about eight managers since he left and finished outside the top four last year. The bar has been set fairly low.

Roman is not a stupid man by the way. Torres cost £50 million so of course they need to try and make that deal work but he's shown he's capable of learning the error of his ways. In fact isn't every sacking of a manager a tacit admission of failure when appointing them? Wouldn't a man capable of admitting he made a mistake still have Scolari or AVB in charge?

It may well be a slightly different situation, but there's still history with the Barcelona guys and Mourinho comes with a lot of baggage. They've shown a dislike for such shit with Balotelli, although they did stick with Tevez. I don't think Citeh are the type of club we are, or the type of club that suits Mourinho. We've always been a glamourous club who place a premium on style (which is why it pisses me off when people moan about us going for the glamour names or the drama attached to the club) and we've got that arrogant swagger that Mourinho has. It's why he was such a great fit for us in the first place and why someone like Benitez would never be right even if he didn't have his history with the club.

That sounds plausible and I would like to be proven wrong because Jose is by far the best option for us, atm. But I still just think that if I were in Jose's place and am leaving Madrid in the summer and coming to England, I would chose city.

[The Mak 4,459]

The first part does not necessarily imply the second. Remember AVB? Roman promised him time and believed in his project so much so that AVB said he sees him self still at Chelsea in 10 years and in the end all he got was 8-9 months. Roman likes to show everyone who is boss, don't think that's going to change anytime soon.

I was actually going to mention this, but I thought the differences between AVB and Mourinho are pretty clear...and I seriously doubt Roman actually wants the manager merry-go-round to continue in this vein, especially when you consider Benitez has the worst record ever and he's still in a job...