Vulture 10 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 For my part, I would chose Simeone (great job at Atletico), Laudrup (excellent at Swansea) or Klopp (huge success with Dortmund).But please no Mourinho... I do like him, I'm also a Real Madrid fan but he's not the coach we want here. Too much direct game, and he's only good on the short term.Moreover, with the young talented players we have (Hazard, Mata, Oscar, .......) we have to develop an attractive game that can be used for long term.We need a real project, something that last, and it is exactly what Simeone, Laudrup and Klopp are doing right now!And I don't trust Low. He's excellent with Germany, but managing a national team is one thing, managing a club is another... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Even though, Chelsea do have young talented players on board but still the team is too thin.Any manager looks at the team & thinks about how easy is to be fired there, as Pep has, he must skeptical to come to Chelsea.Therefore, I am worried about the next step for the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutcho 8,443 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Hiddink would be great but there is a next to 0 chance... The only great manager we have had recently who hasn't technically been fired as he came in on a temporary basis, done extremely well and went back to his international job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milan 17,959 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Hiddink would be great but there is a next to 0 chance... The only great manager we have had recently who hasn't technically been fired as he came in on a temporary basis, done extremely well and went back to his international job.He said Anzhi was his last club and last season, right. BUT he was saying for years he wouldn't return to managing a football club and look what happened. He is younger than Alex Ferguson, he enjoyed working at Chelsea, he is a very good friend of Roman's. I say let's just try it. If Roman really really tried, made a very sad face expression, maybe he would persuade him. You can't really think of better managers than Guus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Changingman_2000 876 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Don't matter really. Whoever it is will be gone the next time Roman gets out the wrong side of bed. Probably best that there is no previous Chelsea connection as it will hurt less. Would hate to see Franco treated the same way as Robbie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted January 18, 2013 Author Share Posted January 18, 2013 Don't matter really. Whoever it is will be gone the next time Roman gets out the wrong side of bed. Probably best that there is no previous Chelsea connection as it will hurt less. Would hate to see Franco treated the same way as Robbie.In Roman's defence, he gave Robbie a job at a top club when he couldn't even get past an interview at a Championship team. Sure he sacked him, but that's happened to better managers than Robbie, and he knew the deal when he signed up.I think you're overstating Roman's 'itchy trigger finger' like a lot of the tabloids do. The sackings of AVB, Scolari, Ancelotti and Robbie all came after poor results or performances. The one he probably regrets is sacking Jose, but their relationship just fell apart.For my part, I would chose Simeone (great job at Atletico), Laudrup (excellent at Swansea) or Klopp (huge success with Dortmund).But please no Mourinho... I do like him, I'm also a Real Madrid fan but he's not the coach we want here. Too much direct game, and he's only good on the short term.Moreover, with the young talented players we have (Hazard, Mata, Oscar, .......) we have to develop an attractive game that can be used for long term.We need a real project, something that last, and it is exactly what Simeone, Laudrup and Klopp are doing right now!And I don't trust Low. He's excellent with Germany, but managing a national team is one thing, managing a club is another...I thought the same as you when it came to Mourinho, but maybe he's reaching a point in his career where he wants to settle down and do something long-term. He's won almost all the top prizes, so what's the next challenge for someone like him? A project?I would hope he's learnt something from this Madrid experience and that he might have changed. The same goes for Roman. Maybe now is the perfect time for them to come together and look to build something new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted January 18, 2013 Author Share Posted January 18, 2013 Laudrup wouldn't be my first choice, but I think (if Swansea do well the rest of the year) I'd be fine with him. He's been managing for a decade and has a tremendous amount of experience as a player, playing at so many massive clubs. He's also probably one of the best players ever which automatically gives him credence with the players. We don't exactly have a good track record with Laudrups. We hire him in August and by November we'll have Bjarne Goldbaek in charge.But I'd be cool with him. He fits the system, he's done pretty well in his first season and he might benefit from the dressing room being the power centre of the club that it once was. My only reservation is that he's not really stayed anywhere long-term, but his career has been on a steady upward curve since he started and he has a good pedigree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Changingman_2000 876 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 In Roman's defence, he gave Robbie a job at a top club when he couldn't even get past an interview at a Championship team. Sure he sacked him, but that's happened to better managers than Robbie, and he knew the deal when he signed up.I think you're overstating Roman's 'itchy trigger finger' like a lot of the tabloids do. The sackings of AVB, Scolari, Ancelotti and Robbie all came after poor results or performances. The one he probably regrets is sacking Jose, but their relationship just fell apart.I thought the same as you when it came to Mourinho, but maybe he's reaching a point in his career where he wants to settle down and do something long-term. He's won almost all the top prizes, so what's the next challenge for someone like him? A project?I would hope he's learnt something from this Madrid experience and that he might have changed. The same goes for Roman. Maybe now is the perfect time for them to come together and look to build something new.I agree with the majority of that, but where does that leave the Fat Controller. He has had a similar number of games in charge that Robbie had, and it really would be hard to pin point any improvement, and there is certainly an argument that the defeats under TFC have been chronic, compared to earlier in the season. QPR and West Ham just isn't funny.Therefore, TFC has had a similar number of games, with absolutely no improvement, which begs the question, why is he still here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted January 18, 2013 Author Share Posted January 18, 2013 I agree with the majority of that, but where does that leave the Fat Controller. He has had a similar number of games in charge that Robbie had, and it really would be hard to pin point any improvement, and there is certainly an argument that the defeats under TFC have been chronic, compared to earlier in the season. QPR and West Ham just isn't funny.Therefore, TFC has had a similar number of games, with absolutely no improvement, which begs the question, why is he still here?Because Roman made a new year's resolution to keep his sackings to one per season? I don't know. Part of me thinks he deserves to be stuck with him (and the shit that goes along with it) for a few more months to learn a lesson.On the plus side, he's hardly doing anything to make sure he stays on beyond the summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Changingman_2000 876 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Because Roman made a new year's resolution to keep his sackings to one per season? I don't know. Part of me thinks he deserves to be stuck with him (and the shit that goes along with it) for a few more months to learn a lesson.On the plus side, he's hardly doing anything to make sure he stays on beyond the summer. Yep, fair point. Maybe they deserve each other. Shame it leaves the fans out on a limb somewhat, but, hey ho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorontoChelsea 4,064 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 We don't exactly have a good track record with Laudrups. We hire him in August and by November we'll have Bjarne Goldbaek in charge.But I'd be cool with him. He fits the system, he's done pretty well in his first season and he might benefit from the dressing room being the power centre of the club that it once was. My only reservation is that he's not really stayed anywhere long-term, but his career has been on a steady upward curve since he started and he has a good pedigree.He was at Brondby for 5 years. In the managerial world, that's an eternity. I actually think he'd be a good fit in some ways. His love of a free flowing style, his willingness to go with youth, his ability to personally coach young players (Alan Tate says he's the best player in training. You don't think players like Oscar, Mata, and Hazard could benefit from having one of the best midfielders ever give them tips?). A lot depends on how Swansea finish the year. But this goes to show. Laudrup is someone I didn't even really think about but he'd be a fine choice. There are plenty of fine choices for manager available. I think Roman and some supporters are too spoiled sometimes, always wanting the big name. The Demba Ba transfer to me shows a willingness to realise that there is value to be found outside just the big names and I hope that's a sign of things to come. And quite frankly, I remember being laughed at, along with some other posters when we suggested Ba as a good signing because "we are Chelsea. we need Falcao/Cavani/etc,,. You find the same thing with some people willing only to accept maybe a couple of managers when there are many good ones who could be available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Can we just end this nightmare and re-hire Jose? Let's pretend nothing ever happened because we're perfect for each other. We belong together. I hear Roman has been on good terms with him for a while now. It's time to put your pride aside Roman......If not and this managerial merry go round countinues, then keeping FSW or Klopp are the best options... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Frank de Boer anyone? Made Ajax realy good team with players they have. Knows how to work with talents, loves passing game and has CL experience. Very down to earth person and hasstyle. And he would probably bring in some dutch super talents... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorontoChelsea 4,064 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Hiddink would be great but there is a next to 0 chance... The only great manager we have had recently who hasn't technically been fired as he came in on a temporary basis, done extremely well and went back to his international job.Even if Hiddink were available and wanted to manage, I wouldn't want him. We were great under him, but it was 21 games and we had a very strong team. We were great under Grant for 54 games the year before. Hiddink has basically been managing national teams for most of the past decade. He was very good managing PSV and Netherlands, but apart from that, his managerial record is pretty mediocre. And those gigs were 15 years ago. He wouldn't make sense on any level.Also, the more I think of it, the more I don't want Mourinho back ( and I think going over the nostalgia around Hiddink brought that out.). He's completely the wrong fit for the club in preferred style and in personality and in what Roman is looking for in a a manger. I think the fan desire to see him back is part a desire to return to winning football and partly a (misguided) belief that bringing in Mourinho will mean automatic success. That just wouldn't happen no matter the manager. We're not spending 150M a year to buy elite talent. I think Roman was right with AVB in the sense that that is the sort of manager we need for the future. He just picked the wrong guy at the wrong time. (And in typical Roman fashion decided there was someone he wanted and overpaid to get his man) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH1988 1,348 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 KLOPP + Give him time :-( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutcho 8,443 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Even if Hiddink were available and wanted to manage, I wouldn't want him. We were great under him, but it was 21 games and we had a very strong team. We were great under Grant for 54 games the year before. Hiddink has basically been managing national teams for most of the past decade. He was very good managing PSV and Netherlands, but apart from that, his managerial record is pretty mediocre. And those gigs were 15 years ago. He wouldn't make sense on any level.Also, the more I think of it, the more I don't want Mourinho back ( and I think going over the nostalgia around Hiddink brought that out.). He's completely the wrong fit for the club in preferred style and in personality and in what Roman is looking for in a a manger. I think the fan desire to see him back is part a desire to return to winning football and partly a (misguided) belief that bringing in Mourinho will mean automatic success. That just wouldn't happen no matter the manager. We're not spending 150M a year to buy elite talent. I think Roman was right with AVB in the sense that that is the sort of manager we need for the future. He just picked the wrong guy at the wrong time. (And in typical Roman fashion decided there was someone he wanted and overpaid to get his man)Hiddink is better than benitez and would at least unite everyone involved in the club again. And it was only 21 games but we still have a strong team. Hazard mata and Ba has to be one of the best attacking 3 you can have in the league and our defence isn't as bad as most when we get JT back and get the defence settled. And International manager/Domestic manager, its still football and i would welcome him back with open arms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhead23 1,147 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 As much as i admire Jose and consider him one of the best, i would not want him back at Chelsea. 2 egoistic person at Chelsea would have the saga that we already when Jose was sacked and i m sure we dont want that to happen again. We have almost taken 4-5 season to have a new style of play from the Mourinho style.The most important thing is that Jose has not been that effective with the youth (i mite be wrong) and we have got some good youth players coming out of the academy. I would rather have someone who would use the resources at hand and take it forward .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorontoChelsea 4,064 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Hiddink is better than benitez and would at least unite everyone involved in the club again. And it was only 21 games but we still have a strong team. Hazard mata and Ba has to be one of the best attacking 3 you can have in the league and our defence isn't as bad as most when we get JT back and get the defence settled. And International manager/Domestic manager, its still football and i would welcome him back with open arms.Hiddink is definitely preferable to Benitez but so is basically everyone. We still have a strong team, but it's not nearly as good as it was. Hiddink would probably be fine (like I think most managers would) but he wouldn't be anywhere near my consideration list even if he weren't retiring. International managing is still management, but it;s much much different. In a big club, you're playing 50 meaningful games a year. You have strict training schedules, you have to rotate players, you have to worry about the long-term. For a national team, you're playing a handful of meaningful games every two seasons. You spend most of your time scouting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 The most important thing is that Jose has not been that effective with the youth (i mite be wrong) and we have got some good youth players coming out of the academy.LOL WTF Like who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhead23 1,147 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 LOL WTF Like who? Ferez, Piazon, Josh, Chalohah, Ake, Kalas, to name a few ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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