The Next Manager?

[Iggy Doonican 4,186]

18 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

The sarcasm is real. Last I checked the last two are still playing and there weren't reports of them being offered a job by the club in the immediate future.

All for a discussion that actually constructive instead of leaving the boat to sink and you've mentioned when we might still be in the top 10.

Don't understand the last sentence at all mate. Of course I'm being sarcastic but having Lampard as our manager is taking the piss. The days of footballers getting jobs the minute they stop playing appears to be over. Giggs had to wait a couple of years and managing Wales isn't a top job just look what Coleman has done at Sunderland. Gerrard is coaching Liverpool's under 20's, Gary Neville was a disaster in Spain, Phil Neville has got a job for the England's women's team yet you think Lampard could take over at Chelsea.

Your taking rumour as fact Lampard's name will be mentioned as a potential Chelsea manager because of his playing career there is zero chance of him becoming manager now or in the near future. Conte has a Premiership title, Italian titles and managed the Italian national team do you honestly think Chelsea would go for Lampard with no experience it's ridiculous it's heart ruling head.

[LAM09 6,744]

20 minutes ago, Iggy Doonican said:

Don't understand the last sentence at all mate. Of course I'm being sarcastic but having Lampard as our manager is taking the piss. The days of footballers getting jobs the minute they stop playing appears to be over. Giggs had to wait a couple of years and managing Wales isn't a top job just look what Coleman has done at Sunderland. Gerrard is coaching Liverpool's under 20's, Gary Neville was a disaster in Spain, Phil Neville has got a job for the England's women's team yet you think Lampard could take over at Chelsea.

Your taking rumour as fact Lampard's name will be mentioned as a potential Chelsea manager because of his playing career there is zero chance of him becoming manager now or in the near future. Conte has a Premiership title, Italian titles and managed the Italian national team do you honestly think Chelsea would go for Lampard with no experience it's ridiculous it's heart ruling head.

You mentioned above that we should leave Conte in charge till the end of the season and are resigned to the fact things won't/can't get better whilst I'm not. We could end the season with two trophies and a top 4 position but there's no chance of that happening if things aren't changed now.

It's far from over: Just look at Seedorf for one.

I stated my opinion on said rumour and nothing else. Yesterday's performance has the last straw for cowardly selections that to more harm than good.

[Iggy Doonican 4,186]

I have no idea what the Seedorf thing is about and I don't care. I'm done now mate I've said my bit and like Conte I can't be bothered anymore.

[LAM09 6,744]

I have no idea what the Seedorf thing is about and I don't care. I'm done now mate I've said my bit and like Conte I can't be bothered anymore.

Fair enough. Thanks for you're contribution [emoji16]

[oldportblue 547]

1 hour ago, Alan Partridge said:

Someone attacking minded. 

We played some good football under AVB and even that match we lost to Arsenal was so entertaining. I think we lost 5-3? 

I would rather lose 5-3 than watch what I saw yesterday. 

Get an exciting attacking manager 

Invest big in the squad 

let the manager pick his transfers 

Give it time to work 

 

 

 

 

 

Thank God we don't have to make a choice between AVB's disastrous 5-3 losses and Conte's embarrassing but in a different way 1-0 losses because both of those scenarios are pretty horrible.

Of all the managers we've had in the past 15 or so years, I would say Carlo had the most entertaining football whilst also winning trophies. He would have probably been a better example to use than the utter disaster that was AVB lol

[Fernando 6,453]

I wonder if they are going to try to go for Simeone. 

This is the type of coaches the board seems to like. 

[!Hazard! 3,394]

17 minutes ago, oldportblue said:

Thank God we don't have to make a choice between AVB's disastrous 5-3 losses and Conte's embarrassing but in a different way 1-0 losses because both of those scenarios are pretty horrible.

Of all the managers we've had in the past 15 or so years, I would say Carlo had the most entertaining football whilst also winning trophies. He would have probably been a better example to use than the utter disaster that was AVB lol

Carlo also had the best squad at his disposal but yeah you're right 2009-10 season we played some cracking football especially in the second half of the season.

For some weird reason, despite how poorly he performed at United, I think van Gaal could be a successful short-term option. The squad we have seems to be built to his liking and with couple additions to midfield we could start playing 4-3-3 again. He also knows how to promote youth players whilst bringing home some silverware.

[the wes 7,212]

5 hours ago, Fernando said:

I wonder if they are going to try to go for Simeone. 

This is the type of coaches the board seems to like. 

Simeone would be the type to tell the Chelsea board he wants full control Of The transfer budget or else he will not take the job our board want a yes manager at the club who agrees with everything our board does it wouldnt surprise me our board went for B.Rodgers 👎👎👎

[Tomo 21,733]

On March 4, 2018 at 10:04 PM, the wes said:

What makes you think that? 

Gut instinct, i feel he's a bit too narrow minded at times (his comments on Robbie Savage prime example, and how he just wouldn't let the Rafa fued go) and that's a massive red flag, Lampard out of our old guard will if anyone be the world class manager.

[Tomo 21,733]

9 hours ago, !Hazard! said:

Carlo also had the best squad at his disposal but yeah you're right 2009-10 season we played some cracking football especially in the second half of the season.

For some weird reason, despite how poorly he performed at United, I think van Gaal could be a successful short-term option. The squad we have seems to be built to his liking and with couple additions to midfield we could start playing 4-3-3 again. He also knows how to promote youth players whilst bringing home some silverware.

The main reason his United side was so boring was because they didn't have the players for his style, we do (although serious question marks have to be raised about how he didn't recruit suitable players given his outlay). United didn't have the two most crucial elements he needed, ball playing defenders and pace up top, we have both. His youth integration is also a massive plus  (given the quality of the 99/00 generation getting a manager with a respectable youth record is crucial), if he can get a tune out of Blackett,Mcnair, Borthwick Jackson and Rashford the likes of Ampadu, Mount and CHO should be childs play.

Now don't get me wrong he isn't my first choice, far from it, but should it happen for the short term it certainly won't be the doomsday confirmation like some will inevitably make out.

[akgw13 867]

Havent read through the forum so i dont know if this has been discussed at length, but Sarri feels like the most interesting managerial choice for us. Our roster is heavy with the types of players he likes and he would bring that fluent attacking football we have supposedly craved. We have had obvious success with italian managers in our history and most importantly Sarri despises the transfer market. Simeone is a wonderful coach but in the ilk of Jose/Conte I can't see the board going for it.

Tuchel is a similar option to Sarri although i know exponentially less about him/his style. I hope we avoid Luis Enrique personally.

 

Down the line it would be wonderful to see Lampard on the bench and Terry/Drogba as executives/directors but none are ready for the positions, that is a dream scenario though. 

[!Hazard! 3,394]

It's not a coincidence that when for the first time in nearly a decade Premier League honestly seems like the top league in the world, these defensive-minded coaches (Conte, Mourinho) are suddenly finding themselves in a lot of trouble. They can only go defensive and win trophies with their football as long as the competition is mediocre. Once attacking-minded coaches get the players that can play their possession football, their teams blow the defensive ones out of the water as we're currently seeing in the Premier League.

The club must go and find an attacking-minded coach for next season. The squad and the academy are built for expressive, possession-based football but somehow the board decide to choose a pragmatic coach time and time after again, and to be fair that has been quite successful policy until now. However, now that the other clubs have found their feet, this pragmatic approach might not be the winning formula anymore.

[11Drogba 2,000]

Ed Malyon says

 

[Magic Lamps 11,653]

I know Allegri is not too popular on this forum but he has proven himself to be a top manager time and time again. He has taken over from Conte and without much additional investment enhanced his success by making juve a regular in the latter stages of the cl and win the odd cup too all with an ageing, washed up squad. So imo if the board wants to keep up their way of not competing financially with the top dogs and yet have decent success without a major overhaul of the squad, i would trust Allegri the most to get the best out of what we have. He is tactically much more flexible than Conte, does his changes early and can influence the match from the sideline. They lost Pogba, Bonucci and Vidal and still are going strong. tbf their competition in the seria A is worse than ours but still not bundesliga-like. They spend less but more wisely and I believe Allegri has an impact on that as he always gets the players he wants for a decent price. Juve have a similar business model as we have with generating a lot of revenue from loans but they optimized it. I am sure Allegri would be able to bring along some guys who can help in this department too.

[11Drogba 2,000]

23 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

I am sure Allegri would be able to bring along some guys who can help in this department too.

Why do you think he would leave Juve and come to us?

[Magic Lamps 11,653]

12 minutes ago, 11Drogba said:

Why do you think he would leave Juve and come to us?

I think the Chelsea job is still very attractive for managers mainly because it is so difficult. The board, the owner, player power, so many interest groups to handle. Some people hate this but some just enjoy it too. To succeed where other great managers have failed is the ultimate triumph for an ambitious manager. The club still has immense potential and I can see that many managers want to add their personal touch to our rebuild. Sure it is no jobs for tactic-freaks who only want to focus on their work with the players. It is a job for a real manager, a well-rounded professional who can handle the business as well as the football. An ambitious man will challenge himself to succeed on all fronts.

[11Drogba 2,000]

2 hours ago, Magic Lamps said:

The board, the owner, player power, so many interest groups to handle. Some people hate this but some just enjoy it too.

It is a job for a real manager, a well-rounded professional who can handle the business as well as the football.

And you think Allegri is that type of manager I guess, who would love to work in such an unstable club and do well in such an environment

So probably Real, Bayern, PSG, Arsenal will look for a manager and Allegri will be on their list in the summer and he is very successful in his well managed club, but he leaves Juve and refuses all other clubs and joins us because it is very difficult here and there are so many interest groups to handle.

Tbh I think you could become a great fantasy book writer. That is more possible than Allegri joining us.

[Fulham Broadway 16,831]

 

If you believe the press, we went to him before Conte, but he wasn't interested. He's obviously a very decent coach - but it would end the same way as Conte is going if he did come -give him some cash and support for a season, then start to annoy him