Special Juan 28,141 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 I actually completely forgot about him Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,315 Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 Hes passed a lie detector test in Shaktar -of course he hasΒ π€£Β - apparently they don't get a lot of the 88million if he never plays for us again OneMoSalah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 The lie detector might be the only thing he got past this season OneMoSalah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 12 hours ago, Fulham Broadway said: Hes passed a lie detector test in Shaktar -of course he hasΒ π€£Β - apparently they don't get a lot of the 88million if he never plays for us again π€£π€£π€£π€£ They wonβt get the Β£26.5m in adds on which takes it up to Β£88m or whatever ridiculous sum we got absolutely scammed into paying. And Iβd imagine we could maybe try and get out of paying more somehow? 9 hours ago, Special Juan said: The lie detector might be the only thing he got past this season Surprised he didnβt run into itβ¦ Β Gets wotse wvery time I see that article with the bit from Srna, saying he believed Mudryk - someone playing in fucking Ukraine - was only behind Vini & Mbappe in wide forward positions in world football. That must go down in history as the biggest lie ever told in the history of world football. And yet we still bought him.Β Fulham Broadway and Vesper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 He has been charged over doping offences and faces a 4 year ban, goodbyeΒ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,914 Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 Why is this just now being confirmed like a year after we first heard about the issue? I wonder if thereβs anything in a playerβs contract that allows the club to get out of itβ¦ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 It happened on the Ukrainian national team watch, I think the best the club can do is go after them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH1988 1,348 Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 This is just a real shame, irrespective of the truth, of which we will never know. He was a real talent suffering from a lack of confidence but I am genuinely disappointed to lose him, as he needed coaching and heβll likely be βsackedβ contractually, dragged through the courts as Chelsea seeks compensation - Mutu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kante 1,643 Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 16 hours ago, Pizy said: Why is this just now being confirmed like a year after we first heard about the issue? I wonder if thereβs anything in a playerβs contract that allows the club to get out of itβ¦ I imagine it will be the PSR rules that will dictate this. I imagine there is a way out of paying wages - as MM has brought this on himself. The transfer fee and how that is added/taken away from the books will be the sticking point imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyikolajevics 2,700 Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 17 hours ago, Special Juan said: It happened on the Ukrainian national team watch, I think the best the club can do is go after them. Maybe Chelsea staff blended something to Mudryk's food so we can earn some money back π Would be creative way of accounting. Fulham Broadway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,315 Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 Silly, silly boy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,456 Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 (edited) Terminate his contract and erase him from our memory, one of the worst signings ever. Edited June 19 by TheHulk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,182 Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 Mykhailo Mudrykβs doping charge explained: Can Chelsea sack him if found guilty and could he appeal? https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6104741/2025/06/19/mykhailo-mudryk-Chelsea-doping-charge-explained/ After provisionally suspending Mykhailo Mudryk in December for a failed drugs test, the English Football Association (FA) has nowΒ charged the Chelsea wingerΒ for violating its anti-doping regulations. This means Mudryk, who has not played a competitive game of football since the end of November, could now face a maximum penalty of a four-year suspension. Although the 24-year-old was in Wroclaw, Poland, to watch Chelsea lift the UEFA Conference League on May 28, he is not with the squad for their ongoing involvement in the FIFA Club World Cup, which is taking place in the United States. InΒ statement released on Wednesday afternoon, the FA said:Β βWe can confirm that Mykhailo Mudryk has been charged with anti-doping rule violations alleging the presence and/or use of a prohibited substance, in terms of regulations 3 and 4 of The FAβs Anti-Doping Regulations. As this is an ongoing case, we are not in a position to comment further at this time.β As per the FAβs anti-doping regulations, Mudryk now has 20 days to decide whether to accept the finding and whatever punishments follow, or request a hearing with the FA. Although a four-year ban would be the worst-case scenario for Mudryk, likely suspensions could range anywhere from two years to a month, depending on any mitigating factors. Here, we explain the background to his case β some of which appeared inΒ an article previously published in DecemberΒ β and what happens now. What has Mudryk done? In December, it emerged that a routine drugs test found Mudryk to have β in Chelseaβs words β βan adverse findingβ in a urine sample provided by the player. This immediately led to a provisional suspension from Chelseaβs first team as they awaited the results of further testing. When urine samples are collected, they are put into two separate containers. The A sample is used for the initial test, and if that comes back positive, they then test the B sample to verify the accuracy of the first result. So, following Mudrykβs positive A sample, his B sample was then tested, which verified that he had tested positive for meldonium, a banned substance. Β Mudryk playing for Chelsea in the Conference League (Alexander Hassenstein/Getty Images) The AthleticΒ previously reported thatΒ Mudryk returned the positive test for meldoniumΒ after being away on international duty in November during a period that saw him feature in Ukraineβs Nations League fixtures against Georgia and Albania. Before his positive test became public knowledge, Chelsea head coach Enzo Maresca was asked about Mudrykβs absence and simply said he is βoutβ, or that he was ill, without giving any further reason. Neither Mudryk nor Chelsea have spoken publicly since the FA announced its decision to charge him on Wednesday. In December, the club issued a statement saying that Mudryk βhas confirmed categorically that he has never knowingly used any banned substancesβ. In the same statement, the player said: βThis has come as a complete shock as I have never knowingly used any banned substances or broken any rules, and I am working closely with my team to investigate how this could have happened.β What are Mudrykβs options now? If the charge is upheld, the playerβs options would be limited. βIf a ban is imposed, he will have the option to try to reduce the length of the ban by appealing the sanction,β says Dan Chapman, a partner and head of employment and sports law at Leathes Prior. Chapman notes that any appeal by Mudryk would be to the FA, though his legal team may also explore whether they can appeal to the Court of Arbitration for Sports (CAS), which is where Paul Pogba had his four-year ban reduced to 18 months. Chapman says that the βdomestic process is reasonably speedyβ, both in terms of possible sanctions and any appeal. βAppeals to the European system are complex, even if available, and will take some while,β he adds. βThe thing with Pogba was that he was of an age where the sanction was career-ending and challenging the ban was his only play. If Mudryk feels that he has no realistic prospect of overturning any ban, the situation could change. βDepending on how long the ban is for,β Chapman continues, βthe advice might be that once the FA process has been concluded, he will need to accept the outcome and that he will still have plenty of time to play after the ban ends.β What are Chelseaβs options? If the FA finds against Mudryk, then, unlike the player, Chelsea would have several options. In the standard Premier League contracts that are in place between all players and clubs, there is a definition of gross misconduct, and being found to have taken a prohibited substance falls under the definition, as it does in accordance with FA rules. βThe club, on the face of it, would have a relatively open-and-shut case to say the player is guilty of gross misconduct and, if they wanted to, they could terminate the playerβs contract,β Chapman says. βThey would need to give 14 daysβ notice to the player in writing if that is what they wanted to do. βThere is an appeal process available to the player, and we are not talking about an appeal against the drugs finding, but an appeal against the decision of the club to terminate his contract for gross misconduct. βThe player can follow that process, although it is hard to see how any appeal could realistically be successful if the FA allegations have been upheld.β WhenΒ Mudryk joined Chelsea in January 2023, he signed an eight-and-a-half-year contract, the last year of which is optional, meaning he could be tied to the club for another six years. But Mudryk would not have the remainder of his contract paid out if he is sacked for gross misconduct. Chelsea would only need to pay him for the 14 days. Β Mudryk featuring for Chelsea at Stamford Bridge (Ryan Pierse/Getty Images) Another option open to Chelsea, Chapman explains, is that they may decide to keep Mudryk, given his age, potential and remaining contract length. In this scenario, the Premier League side may seek to renegotiate the Ukrainianβs contract and put him on a significantly lower wage while he serves the ban. It would still be up to Mudryk, however, to sign a new deal on reduced terms. He may instead fancy his chances as a free agent if the alternative to that is being sacked by the club. If Chelsea opt to sack Mudryk, then Chapman says they could, in theory, also sue him for damages, which is what they successfully did when they sacked Adrian Mutu in 2004 after he tested positive for cocaine and was handed a seven-month ban. βThat is a very rare step, but that is an option open to them,β adds Chapman. βThey would argue they bought an asset for Β£80million, he breached the contract, and now the asset is worth virtually nothing. βNot many clubs would ever want to do that because the message you are sending future players is that if you sign for us and things go wrong, then we may sue you. This doesnβt tend to happen, but it can. The signs so far, and who knows whether this is a justified position not being privy to the facts, is thatΒ Chelsea are being fully supportive of their player.β What is meldonium and which sportspeople have been found to have taken it? A prohibited substance, in short. Meldonium is a heart disease drug developed in 1970 in the former Soviet Union. It is designed to combat ischemia, a condition where blood flow is restricted to body tissue, muscles or organs. It boosts metabolism and increases blood flow and, by extension, the exercise capacity of athletes. It was added to the World Anti-Doping Agencyβs (WADA) list of banned substances in January 2016 after its previous inclusion in the agencyβs monitoring programme the year before. Former Russian tennis player Maria Sharapova had been the most high-profile case of an athlete being banned for using meldonium. A failed drugs test at the 2016 Australian Open led to a two-year ban issued by the International Tennis Federation, with Sharapova accepting she had made βa huge mistakeβ in taking the substance. Β Sharapova was banned for using meldonium (Michael Dodge/Getty Images) Sharapova told a news conference in Los Angeles she had been given a medicine for 10 years by her family doctor and had been unaware that it had also been known as meldonium, which had been added to WADAβs prohibited list in the weeks before her failed test. The Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) reduced Sharapovaβs ban to 15 months in October 2016 after finding that she did not deliberately cheat and that there was no βsignificant fault or negligence on her partβ. The use of meldonium was not uncommon among Eastern European athletes before its ban, but it was the subject of a doping scandal in 2016 when the Ice Hockey Federation of Russia replaced its under-18s squad with an under-17s team at the World Under-18s Championships due to several players returning positive test results. Philip Buckingham How unusual is it for footballers in England to fail drug tests?Β Adverse findings are few and far between and, most commonly, have been due to traces of recreational drugs being discovered. Mutu, goalkeeper Mark Bosnich and one-time England midfielder Jake Livermore were all given suspensions by the FA for testing positive for traces of cocaine, as was the Cardiff winger Nathaniel Mendez-Laing more recently, in 2020. Further afield, the use of performance-enhancing drugs is rare but not without precedent. In February, Pogba was banned for four years when found to have taken a doping agent while at Juventus, a suspension that wasΒ later reduced to 18 monthsΒ when an appeal to CAS found the consumption of the drug had not been intentional. He is still without a club. In February 2021, Manchester United goalkeeper Andre Onana, then playing for Ajax, was banned for a year by UEFA after testing positive for furosemide, a diuretic.Β That was reduced to nine months by CASΒ after the court accepted Onanaβs explanation that he had confused the medication β which he said belonged to his wife β with aspirin. On November 4, Oscar Zambrano, the Hull City midfielder,Β was also given a lengthy ban. Zambrano had returned a positive test last season when playing for his Ecuadorian parent club LDU Quito, but had remained eligible to feature until CONMEBOL issued a ban for breaching anti-doping rules. Hull, who had only signed the player on loan, said Zambrano intended to appeal through CAS, but the case is not yet listed. Philip Buckingham What kind of punishments can be applied?Β Doping bans ordinarily fall between two and four years, although appeals can reduce the length of those bans, as was seen in the case of Pogba. βIf we look at what happened with Paul Pogba, his violation and the consequences that followed, that was a lengthy ban,β says Jibreel Tramboo, a sports lawyer at Church Court Chambers. βI understand the circumstances are different, but the point still follows. βAnti-doping regulations are a strict liability offence. Athletes are fully responsible for substances found in their bodies. Itβs irrelevant if itβs accidental or intentional. If itβs there, itβs a breach. You could argue a reduced sanction if he can demonstrate no significant fault or negligence in what heβs taken, but there is arguably no defence.β Philip BuckinghamΒ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Vesper 30,182 Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 1 hour ago, ahmedou said: Late April Fools Β just do NOT take any meds or supplements from him!! lol ahmedou 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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