Vesper 30,181 Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 26 minutes ago, robsblubot said: heh think he was already a pretty lousy player at Arsenal when a lot younger. Wasn't great a barca either last season 20 goals in only 2630 minutes the Barca portion tracks to over 30 goals in a full seasons minutes I would kill for that kind of production from a CF of ours Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 Fucking useless Reddish-Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,506 Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 13 minutes ago, Vesper said: last season 20 goals in only 2630 minutes the Barca portion tracks to over 30 goals in a full seasons minutes I would kill for that kind of production from a CF of ours Who cares about his Barcelona statistics? He scored from tap-ins and easy opportunities in front of goal, which he was never going to get at Chelsea. The fact that we actually paid Barcelona a transfer fee for a player that Arsenal effectively sacked should have been a massive red flag.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,506 Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 19 minutes ago, Blue Armour said: No doubt about that. I'm just saying the no.9 is like the icing on the cake. Shame, as it used to belong to some of our greatest players, Osgood, Hasslebaink, et al. Maybe we should just retire the no.9 until we find a good striker who can break the curse. Vesper and Blue Armour 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,181 Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Reddish-Blue said: Who cares about his Barcelona statistics? He scored from tap-ins and easy opportunities in front of goal, which he was never going to get at Chelsea. The fact that we actually paid Barcelona a transfer fee for a player that Arsenal effectively sacked should have been a massive red flag.  I was refuting what another poster claimed ABOUT HIS TIME AT BARCA nothing more, nothing less smdh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 17 hours ago, Vesper said: last season 20 goals in only 2630 minutes the Barca portion tracks to over 30 goals in a full seasons minutes I would kill for that kind of production from a CF of ours I think the intent of clubs speaks volumes: arsenal especially but also Barca. Goals need qualification in my book these days. I remember the days of tap-in kings (RVN to name one). Teams with tap-in strikers aren't competitive anymore because they play with 10 players against 11 on the other side. IMO. Aubameyang is a very bad player. He consistently makes the teams where he plays less competitive.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,181 Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 Just now, robsblubot said: I think the intent of clubs speaks volumes: arsenal especially but also Barca. Goals need qualification in my book these days. I remember the days of tap-in kings (RVN to name one). Teams with tap-in strikers aren't competitive anymore because they play with 10 players against 11 on the other side. IMO. Aubameyang is a very bad player. He consistently makes the teams where he plays less competitive.  I think he is shit as an EPL striker now we never should have purchased him other than the U21 buys (which have been great so far) most of our transfers have been shit in 2021 and 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 Just now, Vesper said: I think he is shit as an EPL striker now we never should have purchased him other than the U21 buys (which have been great so far) most of our transfers have been shit in 2021 and 2022 No argument there. Why not a couple, maybe even a few (including other positions) bets instead of a marquee name with his recent history? and yet clubs do that all the time (hardly just us) because it's convenient and sells tickets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,181 Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, robsblubot said: No argument there. Why not a couple, maybe even a few (including other positions) bets instead of a marquee name with his recent history? and yet clubs do that all the time (hardly just us) because it's convenient and sells tickets. I really have utter disdain for our transfer (both in and out) record (for fully adult players, over 21yo as of now) over the past 5 years, plus our contract management  here are the 22yo and up players we have currently on the Sr team who are not academy products, plus the 22yo and ups out on loan bold black the only ones I consider great to good buys bold italics are ones who were good buys for a spell, but now need to GO bold red are shit buys horrific 2 lists! shambolic  the ones currently here, in order of oldest to youngest: Thiago Silva Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang César Azpilicueta N'Golo Kanté Kalidou Koulibaly Jorginho Edouard Mendy (one year wonder) Marcus Bettinelli Hakim Ziyech Mateo Kovacic  Kepa Arrizabalaga Raheem Sterling Denis Zakaria (loan) jury still out Ben Chilwell (too many injuries though) Marc Cucurella (insane overpay, he is a £25-30m LB, max) Christian Pulisic Kai Havertz  Wesley Fofana (so far a sht buy for the price)  on loan now or sold or released or lost on frees recently (so many NIGHTMARES and the only 3 decent buys ALL left on frees!!!)      Tiemoué Bakayoko - still on the books Emerson Malang Sarr (free transfer, but his salary is cray and he is UTTER SHIT, never should have came here) - still on the books Romelu Lukaku - still on the books Michy Batshuayi  Kenedy Antonio Rüdiger (disastrously left on a free) Andreas Christensen (left on a free) Marcos Alonso (left on a free) Abdul-Rahman Baba - still on the books Ross Barkley Danny Drinkwater Saúl ÑÃguez (loan, but a disastrous loan)  robsblubot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 2 hours ago, Vesper said: I really have utter disdain for our transfer (both in and out) record (for fully adult players, over 21yo as of now) over the past 5 years, plus our contract management  here are the 22yo and up players we have currently on the Sr team who are not academy products, plus the 22yo and ups out on loan bold black the only ones I consider great to good buys bold italics are ones who were good buys for a spell, but now need to GO bold red are shit buys horrific 2 lists! shambolic  the ones currently here, in order of oldest to youngest: Thiago Silva Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang César Azpilicueta N'Golo Kanté Kalidou Koulibaly Jorginho Edouard Mendy (one year wonder) Marcus Bettinelli Hakim Ziyech Mateo Kovacic  Kepa Arrizabalaga Raheem Sterling Denis Zakaria (loan) jury still out Ben Chilwell (too many injuries though) Marc Cucurella (insane overpay, he is a £25-30m LB, max) Christian Pulisic Kai Havertz  Wesley Fofana (so far a sht buy for the price)  on loan now or sold or released or lost on frees recently (so many NIGHTMARES and the only 3 decent buys ALL left on frees!!!)      Tiemoué Bakayoko - still on the books Emerson Malang Sarr (free transfer, but his salary is cray and he is UTTER SHIT, never should have came here) - still on the books Romelu Lukaku - still on the books Michy Batshuayi  Kenedy Antonio Rüdiger (disastrously left on a free) Andreas Christensen (left on a free) Marcos Alonso (left on a free) Abdul-Rahman Baba - still on the books Ross Barkley Danny Drinkwater Saúl ÑÃguez (loan, but a disastrous loan)  Yeah this list looks strikingly bad. Now, regarding Christian Pulisic we know what that was all about: $$$ into the American market. I do wonder how many of those were pushed by agents (payback combo deals) and whether the club is keeping tabs on which agent pushed for who. Tiemoué Bakayoko - still on the books this is the best contract he will even get... will never leave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 He's done here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyikolajevics 2,700 Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 3 minutes ago, Sir Mikel OBE said: He's done here. Potter prefers Fofana to sit on bench..  Any countries where he still can depart? Turkey, Middle-East? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamilton 2,120 Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 1 hour ago, nyikolajevics said: Potter prefers Fofana to sit on bench..  Any countries where he still can depart? Turkey, Middle-East? Didn’t he play for Barca like 6mins or so, so he can not move clubs anymore..? Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyikolajevics 2,700 Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 6 minutes ago, Hamilton said: Didn’t he play for Barca like 6mins or so, so he can not move clubs anymore..? Yes, you are right.. Forgot about it. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,054 Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 I thought the move was stupid to begin with in the summer, but it's proved to be even worse after only 6 months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 6 minutes ago, LAM09 said: I thought the move was stupid to begin with in the summer, but it's proved to be even worse after only 6 months. I think pretty much everybody on here called how catastrophic that move for a toxic, past-it player would be. Esp when we fired TT, which allegeldy was premeditated... yeah why did we move for his favourite player then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,054 Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 10 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said: I think pretty much everybody on here called how catastrophic that move for a toxic, past-it player would be. Esp when we fired TT, which allegeldy was premeditated... yeah why did we move for his favourite player then? I'm sure I remember a few thinking it was a decent move despite the fee, as they assumed he could bring back his Dortmund days under the same manager. I dare to think about how much he'll end up costing us if we decide to rip his contract up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,181 Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 10 hours ago, Hamilton said: Didn’t he play for Barca like 6mins or so, so he can not move clubs anymore..? Yep. We are stuck with him until next season. bigbluewillie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 He allegedly went awol and flew to Italy following his omission from the squad maybe we can just unilaterally fire him bc of contract violation Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,322 Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 I hope MLS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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