robsblubot 3,595 Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 18 hours ago, OneMoSalah said: But the desperation to get rid if Alonso clouded so many peoples minds for seasons - to the point where if he was having a steady enough game he was always at fault/not good enough/whatever. Funny now isnt it? And when Cucu was linked with us and City it was pages and pages of “Cucurella is a very good option” “he will displace Chilwell” “our depth at LB is best in the league” and whatever else OTT shit it would be. And now I see many of them same folk saying Cucurella is a dud signing…. shows how much they know. Alonso had his faults but at least you knew what you were getting most weeks. With Cucu its nearly impossible to expect anything reasonable. Barring that Dortmund game, he hasn’t done well but I think a proper coach will extract more out of him and a lot of others here (Sterling, Cucu, Chilwell, Kovacic, Mount if he stays, Felix if he stays, James etc). Whether he was ever going to be worth the moneys one thing but there is still a reasonable player in there with some coaching and development. ^ And was he really a Tuchel signing? As in one he pushed for specifically? I doubt it. He didn’t want to let Alonso go initially and the impression I am getting is Tuchel only let it happen when he knew he would be part of the deal for Aubamayang, who he specifically wanted. yeah this is something that I feel escapes some folks as I see names mentioned as if players could just replicate what they've done in different circumstances (often against far weaker opposition) after moving to a top club. Chelsea club is an elite club! it does not matter what people may think, esp fans of other teams, numbers alone prove who is elite and who's not. Alonso WAS already an elite player. A player with glaring weaknesses (defensive, pace) and also pretty important strengths (skill on the ball, finishing, and aerial). Alonso now plays for Barca, not Fulham. Cucurella may still become a serviceable defensive LB yet, but it just shows how hard this jump can be. How different it is when you play on a more compact defensive-minded system as a defender, and then you move to a big club and suddenly you've got a lot more individual responsibility, not to mention facing much superior opposition esp in CL. OneMoSalah and bigbluewillie 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,195 Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 On 01/04/2023 at 22:46, Magic Lamps said: No one is gonna take him cos we needlessly have him one of the biggest contracts for a defender in football history Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,195 Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 On 01/04/2023 at 20:39, Johnnyeye said: useless wanker, waste of 60 million 😡 £118m counting salary Johnnyeye 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 10 hours ago, Vesper said: £118m counting salary It’s maybe the one thing that drives me mad the most. For top quality players in high demand you gotta overpay on wages to get them to join esp when they are already high earners at a big club. Granted. But like with Kepa we were literally the only suitors willing to pay the transfer fee for Cucu and you can not tell me he would have rejected 100k pw. In fact he would have bitten our hand off. The incompetence of our new owners is just out of this world Johnnyeye, manpe, Alex and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelsea_4_eva 1,182 Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 The way he runs around like a headless chicken is quite infuriating, add to that the mop top he has going on *chefs kiss* Johnnyeye 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,195 Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, Magic Lamps said: It’s maybe the one thing that drives me mad the most. For top quality players in high demand you gotta overpay on wages to get them to join esp when they are already high earners at a big club. Granted. But like with Kepa we were literally the only suitors willing to pay the transfer fee for Cucu and you can not tell me he would have rejected 100k pw. In fact he would have bitten our hand off. The incompetence of our new owners is just out of this world KK & CuCu & Sterling's combined total costs counting trans fees, add-ons, and salary £357m 😞 On the planet there are only 22 entire CLUBS worth that much in player valuation (counting us). Edited April 20, 2023 by Vesper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,326 Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 Funny how he is out for weeks and nobody gives a shit 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 6 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said: Funny how he is out for weeks and nobody gives a shit 😂 I didn’t not even notice but him being out is a good thing. I would expect we have him ensured vs injury and very week he missed through injury we will get some part of his wages back. So the longer he is out the better for us on and off the pitch. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,195 Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 On 12/05/2023 at 20:25, Magic Lamps said: I didn’t not even notice but him being out is a good thing. I would expect we have him ensured vs injury and very week he missed through injury we will get some part of his wages back. So the longer he is out the better for us on and off the pitch. clown car £118m buy (wages, addons, trans fee) horrorshow Boehly move Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,319 Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 Same mistakes as last season so far - off to Strasbourg please Mhsc and Vesper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,195 Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 On 27/07/2023 at 10:14, Fulham Broadway said: Same mistakes as last season so far - off to Strasbourg please or off to Arabia chop chop Fulham Broadway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mhsc 1,097 Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 His versatility might play in his favour at keeping him here, plus Chilwell's abysmal injury record, plus his huge fee with very little sell on value cripples us from FFP perspective. But, based on his performances, lack of redeeming qualities (if we're going to sign a not very technical guy with no brain in the future can we at least make them tall, fast and athletic as fuck please) he should definitely be out. His PEAK is a 7/10, when everything clicks perfectly for him. Also, man looks like sideshow bob and it gets on my nerves looking at him in a Chelsea shirt. Fulham Broadway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,509 Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 4 minutes ago, Mhsc said: His versatility might play in his favour at keeping him here, plus Chilwell's abysmal injury record, plus his huge fee with very little sell on value cripples us from FFP perspective. But, based on his performances, lack of redeeming qualities (if we're going to sign a not very technical guy with no brain in the future can we at least make them tall, fast and athletic as fuck please) he should definitely be out. His PEAK is a 7/10, when everything clicks perfectly for him. Also, man looks like sideshow bob and it gets on my nerves looking at him in a Chelsea shirt. The only reason he is still here is because no other club out there is stupid enough to pay a reasonable transfer fee for him....same reason why Lakaka hasn't been sold yet either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegetable 830 Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 (edited) He should have ended our ownership's love affair with everything Brighton if they would only be able to learn a lesson fast. People were trashing Alonso, but he is a super expensive, sub-par replacement. I see some comments about him being great in pre-season games threads, but it only lasts for like 10 mins and then boom. Another example that what works in mid-table doesn't really do at Chelsea level (but both our owners and fans like to be reluctant to take a note of this) and his ridiculous pricetag makes this guy practically unmovable. Edited July 30, 2023 by Vegetable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,195 Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 Flush this turdlette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,463 Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 He isn't going anywhere anytime soon, we handcuffed ourselves with this guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,195 Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 1 minute ago, TheHulk said: He isn't going anywhere anytime soon, we handcuffed ourselves with this guy. The Saudis........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,463 Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 Just now, Vesper said: The Saudis........... No way he accepts it unless he likes money a lot, he is to young probably still has hunger to win trophies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,195 Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 Just now, TheHulk said: No way he accepts it unless he likes money a lot, he is to young probably still has hunger to win trophies. He is not good enough to be on most clubs that win trophies in a big 5 league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amad_diallo 17 Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 He looked sharp today controlled saka. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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