🇪🇸 3. Marc Cucurella

[Fernando 6,585]

I liked tuchel and I was sad when he left but I always said that he was bad for transfer and with his input in transfer I would not feel comfortable in the purchases. 

This summer bust is another proof on top of lukaku. 

Hence why in the long term it was better to sack tuchel and change the vision. 

After sacking tuchel I think our transfer was a bit better. 

Edited January 16, 2023 by Fernando

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

On 16/01/2023 at 14:14, Fernando said:

I blame it on tuchel. 

I always said tuchel was not good for signing. 

Personally I think its more on Boehly trying to make a splash in the first window, I just have this feeling he seen City wanted him (similarly to Arsenal with Mudryk) and just felt he had to triumph them to stop them getting him first and foremost. Although we did need back up in the position with Chilwells injury. But mainly re City wanting him & Boehly wanting to make an impression and be competitive, I think this is why we had no issues to splurge the fee they wanted without hesitation where as City did. Or perhaps City had more reservations about the player? 

Whilst they also were/are statement buys - people probably thought not often Chelsea beat City & Pep to their top target in recent years or a team at the top of the league to theirs (Arsenal & Mudryk). So theres that element too. Without considering the players qualities as I don’t think any would of considered the pair of them elite players. 

I do think Tuchel liked the player though, but I am more convinced this is one of the lessons Boehly and the club have reportedly “already learned” from this summer. Or I’d hope so.

[NikkiCFC 8,326]

 

[Bumtrubbler 6]

have a look back at all our recent defeats. find me 1 that doesn't involve countless attacks down our left side... 

he's a tool & not good enough for Chelsea. out to fk! 

[Hashishi 148]

 

 

 

 

[Vesper 30,195]

9 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

 

Yikes!

[Vesper 30,195]

On 15/01/2023 at 17:58, manpe said:

Crazy to think that we could have just promoted Hall and kept the 60 million for more pressing needs.

and we have two other left backs who may end up better than Hall

Zak Sturge (1.88m big 18yo)

and, of course,

Maatsen, tearing it up at Burnley

 

[Reddish-Blue 2,509]

1 hour ago, Vesper said:

and we have two other left backs who may end up better than Hall

Zak Sturge (1.88m big 18yo)

and, of course,

Maatsen, tearing it up at Burnley

 

The problem is...Maatsen won't get a chance because of the Cucurella transfer.  

Still can't believe we actually paid 50+ million for an average player like Cucurella.  No wonder why Manchester City pulled out of the negotiations, they knew that he wasn't worth more than 30 million.  

[Vesper 30,195]

1 hour ago, Reddish-Blue said:

Still can't believe we actually paid 50+ million

62 million quid, counting the add-ons!

and that doesn't include his £175K PW salary on a 6 year long contract

that takes it up to £116.6m!!!!

insanity

those 5 summer buys were some of the worst in decades

counting wages, we could well have shit away half a billion pounds or so just from that one summer window

and dog knows the secondary knock-on effects, like if we lose Maatsen on a free cuz CuCu shit may well block him

 

Edited February 11, 2023 by Vesper

[Fernando 6,585]

Mistake for the first goal. 

Really he has not been that good. 

The summer transfers are among the worst. Reminds me of a time with conte that we bought nothing but crap one summer. 

 

[Johnnyeye 7,510]

waste of money and space

[TheHulk 2,464]

 

[Vesper 30,195]

Potter needs to nip this shit in the bud or its going to blow up and super poison the team

[Vesper 30,195]

I want to state on here that I have ZERO ill will or personal dislike for CuCu

he just was a shit buy and, exactly like his manager Potter, is in over his head at a club that is too big for him

I have no ill will or personal dislike for Potter either

unlike CuCu I actually was happy when we signed Potter, as I thought he could adapt the same way he had always adapted as he moved up the food chain in HUGE fashion, from lower tier Swedish football all the way up to the EPL with Brighton

but, like I was long ago about Bakayoko

I was wrong

☹️

 

[Mhsc 1,097]

If FFP permits we should sell him in summer, probably can still get £20m for him, although wages may be tricky. Honestly would rather still have Emerson, who at least was a hard worker and willing runner.

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

10 hours ago, Vesper said:

62 million quid, counting the add-ons!

and that doesn't include his £175K PW salary on a 6 year long contract

that takes it up to £116.6m!!!!

insanity

those 5 summer buys were some of the worst in decades

counting wages, we could well have shit away half a billion pounds or so just from that one summer window

and dog knows the secondary knock-on effects, like if we lose Maatsen on a free cuz CuCu shit may well block him

 

 

3 minutes ago, Mhsc said:

If FFP permits we should sell him in summer, probably can still get £20m for him, although wages may be tricky. Honestly would rather still have Emerson, who at least was a hard worker and willing runner.

Yeah no chance we will ever be able to move him on these wages. We are stuck with him like with so many other dregs.

That was one of the bigges gripes I had with the former regime and it seems like it carried over. Offering no-name players from samll clubs such a huge salary increase. usually they would be happy to make the move regardless, even for half that money. Same thing we did with kepa. For established stars,ok I get it, if we really want them that is what you have to pay but it seems we do not really even engage in wage negotiations.

[Vesper 30,195]

1 minute ago, Mhsc said:

If FFP permits we should sell him in summer, probably can still get £20m for him, although wages may be tricky. Honestly would rather still have Emerson, who at least was a hard worker and willing runner.

we are fucked

the 6 year (6 year contract at a crazy wage, £175K PW!) amortization still will have 5 years to go

so it will be a huge carried forward loss in terms of FFP

what club is going to commit to paying CuCu over £45m JUST IN SALARY (£9.1m per year, for 5 years)

it was a disasterclass buy

as were the other 4 summer deals (unless somehow Sterling turns it around, which can happen, and then the less likely, but still possible redemption of the damaged goods that is known as Wesley Fofana)

atm all 5 summer buys look diabolical AF

 

[Vytis33 1,272]

Wasn’t he footballer of the year at Brighton?  You’d think Potter could at least get a tune out of his former player 

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

9 minutes ago, Vesper said:

we are fucked

the 6 year (6 year contract at a crazy wage, £175K PW!) amortization still will have 5 years to go

so it will be a huge carried forward loss in terms of FFP

what club is going to commit to paying CuCu over £45m JUST IN SALARY (£9.1m per year, for 5 years)

it was a disasterclass buy

as were the other 4 summer deals (unless somehow Sterling turns it around, which can happen, and then the less likely, but still possible redemption of the damaged goods that is known as Wesley Fofana)

atm all 5 summer buys look diabolical AF

 

Yeah Cucurella albeit still young and could potentially still improve seems to be way out of his depth atm. We can just hope with Chilwell back he can teach him a thing or two... As soon as Chilly is back to full match fitness there should be no argument who is no.1 left back. Not sure what went wrong for Cucurella after his first 2 great performances.... probably what we saw back then was just a purple patch and his form since then is his regular level.

Fofana is probably perma-wrecked but even if his pace is gone, he has always had decent defensive insticts so might still become a half-decent squad player. He too is apparently on absured 200k wages which is just mind boggling cos he as well could have been gotten on half that probably. you just don't arrive at wages with this even numbers on a negotiation basis. We just offered him 200kpw straight away and his agent snapped our hand off and ran. Absolute noob level negotation tactics. Anyway, he is unmovable as well now so our only hope is that he becomes a reasonably useful back up at some point.

Sterling might still become good, he looks like having a positive impact on the team and is a reliable poster boy for the club at least off the pitch. Can't really argue with the reasoning behind buying him tbh. Was usually impressed with his early years at City and did not notice him having regressed that much last season. Beforehand, I always perceived him as a menace when we played against him. Still jsut about young enough to bounce back and with Pep's rotation he has not that much mileage in his legs that you would think he is dusted already.

K2 and Auba, well the less said about those two useless donkeys the better.

Edited February 11, 2023 by Magic Lamps

[Vesper 30,195]

1 hour ago, Magic Lamps said:

Fofana is probably perma-wrecked but even if his pace is gone, he has always had decent defensive insticts so might still become a half-decent squad player. He too is apparently on absured 200k wages which is just mind boggling

Wesley Fofana Salary Profile

Wesley Fofana (Centre-Back) has 7 years and £72,800,000 gross remaining on his contract with Chelsea (Premier League), expiring on Jun 30, 2029. Wesley Fofana, who is 22 years old, will earn a Gross Salary of £10,400,000 for the 2022-2023 Season, or £200,000 per week.

Raheem Sterling Salary Profile

Raheem Sterling (Left Wing) has 5 years and £84,500,000 gross remaining on his contract with Chelsea (Premier League), expiring on Jun 30, 2027. Raheem Sterling, who is 28 years old, will earn a Gross Salary of £16,900,000 for the 2022-2023 Season, or £325,000 per week.