Chelsea Transfers

[blu35_army 551]

Alan Nixon

@reluctantnicko

Chelsea are willing to let Ethan Ampadu out on loan to Sheff U. One of those that works for all parties. More online shortly. Ish.

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so,,we wouldn't make him a backup for Kante or CB then. but as long he make a reguler first team at Sheffied,,gonna be a good development for him...

[Vesper 30,170]

12 hours ago, Alabama said:

Why ain't we after Dennis Zakaria or Florentino to be understudy of Kante roles since we going to be playing 433 with Kante and two roaming 8s...

I am not just on the Rice hype train especially for West Ham price valuation..

its complicated because I am not sure if we want Rice as a CB

I know now, this season, that we need him more at DMF than CB

you are one of the few who brought up the double 8

my dream squad is a double 8 but a 442 (I leave many options for CB)

for 2021/22

GK Oblak (step-down, Predrag)

CB Upamecano or (real wild card) Theo Hernandez shifted to a LCB from LB (and he can be our backup LB if Chilwell cannot go) or Romagnoli or Evan N'Dicka

CB Skriniar or Giminez or Ginter or Tapsoba

LB Chilwell  and Ramy Bensebaini (deffo my number one backup LB option of we do not get either Hernandez brother, he is big (1.86m), strong pacy, very strong defensively)

RB Reece and Nordi Mukiele or Sergiño Dest  or Takehiro Tomiyasu for BU/rotation

DMF (the lower base trad role) Rice (step down Denis Zakaria and then MAYBE then Rice moves to CB so eliminate the players in one of those slots above, probably the 2nd slot)

DMF (the higher, roamer role) Camavinga (step down  Bruno Guimarães or Ismaël Bennacer or Boubacar Kamara) Fucking Juve snagged Weston McKennie, grrrrrrr

LMF/LW Pulisic (or IF Puli cannot stay healthy and CHO turns bust, then the crazy, money be damned option is Sancho, but that is 95% impossible on so many levels)

RMF/RW Ziyech

Striker Werner

Striker Havertz

 

the only other players (all positions save for GK as there are too many and we have no idea who we end up with now)) not listed above who intrigue me ATM and might be remotely available next summer or after (Alaba, at 29yo, is too old by then and Sergio Reguilón is now not needed as we have Ben) are (many are pipe dreams, and I did not even toss in Mbappe, as we cannot afford him)

Matthijs de Ligt    (not happening)
Raphaël Varane     (not happening)
Lucas Hernández   (if Bayern do not want him, which is highly doubtful, he could replace his brother above)
Marquinhos  (not happening)
Ibrahima Konaté   
Caglar Söyüncü   
Sandro Tonali   (not happening)
Thomas Partey (will be 28yo though in June, so getting close to too old and I assume he will be sold this summer anyway)
Saúl Ñíguez   
Marco Verratti    (not happening)
Houssem Aouar 
Nicolò Zaniolo
Dominik Szoboszlai  
Lucas Ocampos  
Ansu Fati   (not happening)
Mikel Oyarzabal
Erling Håland
Victor Osimhen (not happening now, as Napoli bought him)
Richarlison
Donyell Malen

 

[Blues Forever 1,232]

9 minutes ago, Vesper said:

its complicate becuase I am not sure if we want Rice as a CB

I know now, this season, that we need him more at DMF than CB

you are one of the few who brought up the double 8

my dream squad is a double 8 but a 442 (I leave many options for CB)

for 2021/22

GK Oblak (step-down, Predrag)

CB Upamecano or (real wild card) Theo Hernandez shifted to a LCB from LB (and he can be our backup LB if Chilwell cannot go) or Romagnoli or Evan N'Dicka

CB Skriniar or Giminez or Ginter or Tapsoba

LB Chilwell  and Ramy Bensebaini (deffo my number one backup LB option of we do not get either Hernandez brother, he is big (1.86m), strong pacy, very strong defensively)

RB Reece and Nordi Mukiele or Sergiño Dest  or Takehiro Tomiyasu for BU/rotation

DMF (the lower base trad role) Rice (step down Denis Zakaria and then MAYBE then Rice moves to CB so eliminate the players in one of those slots above, probably the 2nd slot)

DMF (the higher, roamer role) Camavinga (step down  Bruno Guimarães or Ismaël Bennacer or Boubacar Kamara) Fucking Juve snagged Weston McKennie, grrrrrrr

LMF/LW Pulisic (or IF Puli cannot stay healthy and CHO turns bust, then the crazy, money be damned option is Sancho, but that is 95% impossible on so many levels)

RMF/RW Ziyech

Striker Werner

Striker Havertz

 

the only other players (all positions save for GK as there are too many and we have no idea who we end up with now)) not listed above who intrigue me ATM and might be remotely available next summer or after (Alaba, at 29yo, is too old by then and Sergio Reguilón is now not needed as we have Ben) are (many are pipe dreams, and I did not even toss in Mbappe, as we cannot afford him)

Matthijs de Ligt    (not happening)
Raphaël Varane     (not happening)
Lucas Hernández   (if Bayern do not want him, which is highly doubtful, he could replace his brother above)
Marquinhos  (not happening)
Ibrahima Konaté   
Caglar Söyüncü   
Sandro Tonali   (not happening)
Thomas Partey (will be 28yo though in June, so getting close to too old and I assume he will be sold this summer anyway)
Saúl Ñíguez   
Marco Verratti    (not happening)
Houssem Aouar 
Nicolò Zaniolo
Dominik Szoboszlai  
Lucas Ocampos  
Ansu Fati   (not happening)
Mikel Oyarzabal
Erling Håland
Victor Osimhen (not happening now, as Napoli bought him)
Richarlison
Donyell Malen

 

Skriniar is available right now, Conte doesn't rate him in the back three.

[Vesper 30,170]

32 minutes ago, Blues Forever said:

Skriniar is available right now, Conte doesn't rate him in the back three.

yes, I know

my standard want was Skiniar this window, Upamecano in summer 2021, but I gave a lot of other options as well

IF we do mange to grab Rice and a GKer this window (we have to dump a lot of dregs to get to both) then obviously Skriniar is not happening now

only way I could see all three happening this window is move that will make half the board rage and seethe in anger, that being a Knate for Skriniar straight swap (and then we HAVE to buy Rice)

a summer 2019 Skriniar is worth a summer 2020 Kante valuation (both at £70-75m or so)

now with COVID-19 and with Skriniar being on the outs, it is probably an overspend to ship Kante straight up for him (55-60m euros cash waived in Inter's face, I think they would sell Skriniar, meaning we are valuing Kante at only £49.5-54m in a straight swap, which is very low, especially as Serie A will extend his career at high levels, provided he stays healthy, which is a big if)

that said, Kante starts to (he already has) massively go down in value for the summer 2021 window

he turns 30 right near the end of winter (March), and if he is injured a lot this coming season, we are fucked in terms of his valuation

another option to grab Skriniar is to offer Inter €35-40m + Emerson for Skriniar

they are fucked at LB/LWB atm

Inter Still Keen On Signing Chelsea’s Emerson Palmieri Italian Broadcaster Claims

https://sempreinter.com/2020/09/04/inter-still-interested-in-signing-emerson-palmieri-could-sign-him-on-loan-with-option-to-buy-basis/

[Blues Forever 1,232]

23 minutes ago, Vesper said:

my standard want was Skiniar this window, Upamecano in summer 2021, but I gave a lot of other options as well

Would be too good to be true. I'm not confident we will get Upamecano given his cheap release clause would attract many big clubs.

[Vesper 30,170]

52 minutes ago, Blues Forever said:

Would be too good to be true. I'm not confident we will get Upamecano given his cheap release clause would attract many big clubs.

According to Kicker, Upamecano's new contract includes a €42 (£37.8m) million release clause, which will be active from next summer.

That  is SO low.

And we can sell him on the project (and we have his best teammate (Werner) here already, plus Havertz and Rudiger)

[Jase 43,479]

 

[Dimitr 488]

We are acting very fast in the transfer period 

 

[Jase 43,479]

2 minutes ago, Jason said:

 

Some bits on the transfer update:

- Talks are progressing well. An offer worth 14 million pounds was rejected by Rennes but negotiations are ongoing and an agreement should be reached.

- Mendy expected to arrive "within days or the next few weeks". (LOL!)

- Club have considered a number of options including Oblak, Onana and Pope but Mendy is seen as the best option right now.

- Mendy will be brought in to compete with Kepa, who looks likely to remain because there is little interest from elsewhere.

- Club could also buy a defensive midfielder. Rice remains on the wishlist, although he was originally lined up for his ability to play at the back as well as in the centre. Club also monitored Lille's Soumare last season.

[MoroccanBlue 5,381]

Those saying he is poor with the ball ta his feet, is there a video compilation of that? Want to know what we are dealing with here. 

Needs to be mentioned that Kepa isn't all that great also. 

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

1 minute ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Those saying he is poor with the ball ta his feet, is there a video compilation of that? Want to know what we are dealing with here. 

Needs to be mentioned that Kepa isn't all that great also. 

I havent found one but his passing is not even the worst. It is his sweeping. he similarly clueless when to come out for the ball as Onana. Looks absolutely ridiculous, like a fish on land. I think we are going for Mendy bc he can keep the pressure off the defense for crosses and set pieces with his ridiculous wingspan. Teams will probably just go for near post corners then to cause havoc but wtf i know.  i think onana and maignan would both be better deals but all 3 are not exactly world class.

[Pizy 18,903]

I think Big Pete must be behind this move in part. I'm sure he's had lots of input on our new keeper search.

He's a risky signing but if Big Pete thinks he's got what it takes I'm good with it. Hope he doesn't take too long to be thrown in the team.

[Styl1994 188]

4 hours ago, Alabama said:

Then Florentino of Benfica would be worth a shot...

Rice is

Premier League proven 

HG 

Versatile 

Has leadership abilities 

[Artandur 939]

1 hour ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Those saying he is poor with the ball ta his feet, is there a video compilation of that? Want to know what we are dealing with here. 

Needs to be mentioned that Kepa isn't all that great also. 

No real clip of his ballplaying, but pretty good overview

[Fulham Broadway 17,312]

The dominoes can fall very quickly': Frank Lampard admits expectations at Chelsea will be sky high after £200m spree on the likes of Kai Havertz and Timo Werner as Blues boss says he is preparing for a 'messy patch' 

That 'messy patch' is when Henrique appears....

[R2D2 368]

Soumare is fucking shit and Rice pretty average, don't ruin this transfer summer with the DM signing, go for someone like Zakaria who is class. I don't have anything against Rice but we can get him at any time since he wants to come, let him develop more and his contract go down, but get Zakaria now, 2 years left on his contract around 45 mil cost.

[Alabama 1,992]

4 minutes ago, R2D2 said:

Soumare is fucking shit and Rice pretty average, don't ruin this transfer summer with the DM signing, go for someone like Zakaria who is class. I don't have anything against Rice but we can get him at any time since he wants to come, let him develop more and his contract go down, but get Zakaria now, 2 years left on his contract around 45 mil cost.

That's why I listed Florentino of Benfica as another option...

[Strike 7,489]

Actually think if we wait another year, Rice will be coming in as a defensive midfielder (primarily) rather than a centreback target. There is Silva, Zouma, Christensen, Rudiger, Tomori at the club + Ampadu, Clarke-Salter, Sarr and Mbuyamba possibly waiting to get a chance.

[Pizy 18,903]

I don't believe for a second that we're going to consider another DM this window. We will wait for Rice.

[Blues Forever 1,232]

11 minutes ago, Alabama said:

That's why I listed Florentino of Benfica as another option...

Florentino is still raw, Zakaria or Rice are the better options right now.