Chelsea Transfers

[Vesper 30,228]

4 minutes ago, Reddish-Blue said:

If we had been able to sell Chalobah and Broja instead of just loaning them on deadline day....what a waste of a transfer window.  The only benefit was offloading Lukaku. 

and Chilwell, etc etc

[Vesper 30,228]

 

• David Datro Fofana is still expected to leave Chelsea in the next days. Turkey, Greece, Portugal, Saudi and Holland among markets being explored to pick best option. Hoffenheim and Sunderland opened talks to sign Datro on Deadline Day but negotiations collapsed.

[TheHulk 2,483]

Another top talent they said.

[mkh 602]

Ângelo Gabriel is close to moving to Al-Nassr .

They want him to fill the last U21 foreign vacancy. Chelsea have rejected two offers of £21 million and £25 million. They want £33 million.

(@venecasagrande) 

[Vesper 30,228]

6 minutes ago, mkh said:

Ângelo Gabriel is close to moving to Al-Nassr .

They want him to fill the last U21 foreign vacancy. Chelsea have rejected two offers of £21 million and £25 million. They want £33 million.

(@venecasagrande) 

brilliant profit if we get that 

20m quid more than we paid for him

[mkh 602]

Flamengo is trying to sign Deivid Washington from Chelsea on loan.

(@geglobo)

[manpe 10,861]

24 minutes ago, mkh said:

Flamengo is trying to sign Deivid Washington from Chelsea on loan.

(@geglobo)

If we are serious about his development (or upping his value), then loaning to Brazil makes no sense.

[robsblubot 3,595]

50 minutes ago, manpe said:

If we are serious about his development (or upping his value), then loaning to Brazil makes no sense.

Couldn't agree more.

Flamengo actually has the best striker in teh country, Pedro, who flopped in Europe (Fiorentina), but is still better than what the other sides have there. He is recovering from a hammy, but should be back soon. So, it's likely Deivid wouldn't be starting too many matches.

[TheHulk 2,483]

2 hours ago, mkh said:

Ângelo Gabriel is close to moving to Al-Nassr .

They want him to fill the last U21 foreign vacancy. Chelsea have rejected two offers of £21 million and £25 million. They want £33 million.

(@venecasagrande) 

I'll believe it when I see him wearing the Al Nassr shirt.

[Reddish-Blue 2,511]

2 hours ago, manpe said:

If we are serious about his development (or upping his value), then loaning to Brazil makes no sense.

If we were that serious about his development, he would have been loaned out much earlier in the transfer window, especially considering he spent last season doing nothing in the reserves and then making up the numbers on the bench. 

[LAM09 7,062]

3 hours ago, mkh said:

Ângelo Gabriel is close to moving to Al-Nassr .

They want him to fill the last U21 foreign vacancy. Chelsea have rejected two offers of £21 million and £25 million. They want £33 million.

(@venecasagrande) 

Al Nassr seemingly have a taste for Brazilian youngsters. They want some company for Wesley.

At least we have someone to drop a few should they not turn out to be much (quite likely).

Edited September 1, 2024 by LAM09

[TheHulk 2,483]

2 minutes ago, Reddish-Blue said:

If we were that serious about his development, he would have been loaned out much earlier in the transfer window, especially considering he spent last season doing nothing in the reserves and then making up the numbers on the bench. 

We tried offloading him to Strasbourg, it's pretty clear how much they give a fuck about his development. Hope Al Nassr comes for him as well.

Edited September 1, 2024 by TheHulk

[Vegetable 830]

Interesting to see how brutal revolving door business model Clearlake adopted here. If you think about how absurdly long likes Kenedy or Baba Rahman were here, wow, night and day.

[Blue Armour 4,448]

On 31/08/2024 at 08:21, Vesper said:

I agree, Maresca is not a yes man

I hope he doesn't fall prey to their shenanigans. 

[Blue Armour 4,448]

11 hours ago, TheHulk said:

Another top talent they said.

Clearly just a profit maker. Which is still good.

No wages paid., and still turned a profit.

[Reddish-Blue 2,511]

5 hours ago, Vegetable said:

Interesting to see how brutal revolving door business model Clearlake adopted here. If you think about how absurdly long likes Kenedy or Baba Rahman were here, wow, night and day.

In one sense, the business model is good as ideally that's what you want to see, if the player doesn't fit or develop, flip them or sell them off. 

The only issue with the Clearlake approach is that they hoarded too many players in consecutive transfer windows.  Just look at the LW situation, you got Mudryk, Neto, Sancho, Sterling, Carney, even Felix all being paid from Chelsea's books this season. 

If we had a clearer plan, maybe Mudryk, Carney and a few others would be playing regularly elsewhere. 

[Vesper 30,228]

4 hours ago, Reddish-Blue said:

In one sense, the business model is good as ideally that's what you want to see, if the player doesn't fit or develop, flip them or sell them off. 

The only issue with the Clearlake approach is that they hoarded too many players in consecutive transfer windows.  Just look at the LW situation, you got Mudryk, Neto, Sancho, Sterling, Carney, even Felix all being paid from Chelsea's books this season. 

If we had a clearer plan, maybe Mudryk, Carney and a few others would be playing regularly elsewhere. 

Neto and Felix are not true LWers, and Carney is an AMF/CMF, never a winger

[Vesper 30,228]

Saudi clubs can sign players until today, September 2 (10 PM BST) whilst the Turkish Super Lig window is open until September 13.

[robsblubot 3,595]

35 minutes ago, Vesper said:

Neto and Felix are not true LWers, and Carney is an AMF/CMF, never a winger

I’m counting on that actually… I mean Neto not Felix. Think Neto can do Mount’s role (pulled back winger) in his own way of course, but the key part is to solidify the midfield.

I saw carney do that too when deployed on the left (think it was when injured his knee), but I have no idea about his fitness these days; feels like the club has lost faith in him atm.

of course Maresca may have other ideas like projecting the defense line forward, but we are not sure we have the quality in the cbs for that.

Maybe even Maresca does not yet know how to get this team clicking just yet. We will find out soon.

Edited September 2, 2024 by robsblubot

[Vesper 30,228]

19 minutes ago, robsblubot said:

I saw carney do that too when deployed on the left, but I have no idea about his fitness these days; feels like the club lost faith in him atm.

I know many here will disagree with me (and that is totally ok, as this is a pure judgement call) but I think we should NOT have purchased KDH and just rolled with Carney for the MF role that we deploy KDH in.

It would have saved us £30m in transfer fees, and around £31.2m in salary (as KDH signed a 6 year contract at what is likely around £100K PW)

that £61.2m or so for KDH in toto is a shedload in cash for a (IMHO) Championship level player, or maybe, at best, a lower half of the EPL table team level player

I simply do not see anything major that KDH does that Carney cannot do.

PLUS we have Santos next year as well.

I hope I have to eat my words, btw, as I have no ill will whatsoever against KDH, he seems a likeable enough bloke.

Edited September 2, 2024 by Vesper