Chelsea Transfers

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

People were talking about us, Arsenal and Liverpool looking at Ryan Fraser in the summer.

I know its ironic because he played very well today but last season I thought he was excellent for Bournemouth and IIRC he was in double figures for assists. Real pace and capable of providing assists from outwide, maybe be worth a punt as a squad player here? Someone who could spin a game against tired legs? Not be the most popular choice but hes at a good age, 25, and will only get better. I think having seen how good Andy Robertson has become at Liverpool after showing good signs at Hull, he could potentially be another buy in that mould. Maybe not. Would rather we had him to spin a game than the likes of a Ross Barkley.

[Tomo 21,751]

4 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said:

At this rate, we need a transfer window that is better and more efficient than the 2014/15 one to become competitive again. 

Depends in what context you mean, if you mean competitive straight away I don't even think that will do it, we have too many holes right now to compete with what's on offer at the top of this league.

However I think a good few windows and we can actually be challenging the year after next. Since we've changed our style of play our transfers have been very promising, for example we've gone from probably the worst midfield in the top 10 to the best outside of City.

[Tomo 21,751]

5 hours ago, BDTips said:

As I often say and as we all know, it is very rare to get a good buy in January, very rare.

And with this crisis, surely we will act on impulse and despair, we will not have the necessary calm and planning.

Now nobody knows what Frankie can give or how far he can go.

What a bad day .

Is it? I don't think it's anywhere near as rare as people make out, for starters the two best CBs are January buys.

[Superblue 6,372]

1 hour ago, Tomo said:

Depends in what context you mean, if you mean competitive straight away I don't even think that will do it, we have too many holes right now to compete with what's on offer at the top of this league.

However I think a good few windows and we can actually be challenging the year after next. Since we've changed our style of play our transfers have been very promising, for example we've gone from probably the worst midfield in the top 10 to the best outside of City.

There's no getting away from the poor run of form we're on at present but there has to be more patience at times from our fan base. It's no surprise that our midfield is a particular strong point in our team. Kovacic, Jorginho and Kante are all in their mid to late 20's, in or around their peak.

Compare this to our main attacking players, with the exception of Willian, who are all in their early 20's and need time to develop. Consistency was always going to be an issue this season for them.

I've mentioned in previous posts, Liverpool's front three are all in the 27-28 age bracket, all in the prime of their careers. And if you delve deeper into their squad, nearly all of them are in the 25 - 30 age bracket. The only two younger players I believe they have who play regularly are Trent and Gomez and both have about 3 years worth of experience under their belt now.

City have a few younger players, but they also have some key players that are now well into their 30's such as Fernandinho, Silva and Aguero, whilst Walker will be 30 in the summer and Mahrez and De Bruyne will both turn 30 next season. 

We have a glut of players in their early 20's and very inexperienced at the top level, and a fair few players in their 30's and regressing. We don't have a huge amount of players in that similar age bracket throughout our squad (and some of those we do aren't good enough anyway).

Even with a top drawer window, we would be hard pressed to touch Liverpool at present, whilst you'd also expect City to go again. We need a couple of years realistically to be challenging them. In that time you would expect these younger players to have the experience levels that someone like Trent does, and will hopefully continue to develop to be a big influence for us. Transfer wise, we either need to make a decision of buying similar younger players with the plan for them all to develop together over the next couple of years, or some more players within that 25-30 age bracket which will help to bridge the gap now whilst some of our younger players develop.

 

[Vesper 30,181]

WHITE NOISE 

Chelsea to make shock January move for £25million-rated Ben White after Brighton defender impresses on loan at Leeds

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/10553083/chelsea-january-switch-ben-white-leeds-brighton/

 

Chelsea consider January move for Ben White with Brighton centre-back impressing on loan at Leeds

Chelsea are considering a move for Ben White in the January transfer window
Brighton defender White has been very impressive on loan at Leeds this season 
Although Brighton are reluctant to sell they could accept a bid of £25million 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-7793357/Chelsea-consider-January-Ben-White-Brighton-centre-impressing-loan-Leeds.html

[Rapkun 668]

It's The Sun so it's probably fake but this is way more exciting than being linked with Ake. For having watched the player a few times, he's very promising. I doubt Brighton will be able to keep him.

[Superblue 6,372]

33 minutes ago, Vesper said:

WHITE NOISE 

Chelsea to make shock January move for £25million-rated Ben White after Brighton defender impresses on loan at Leeds

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/10553083/chelsea-january-switch-ben-white-leeds-brighton/

 

Chelsea consider January move for Ben White with Brighton centre-back impressing on loan at Leeds

Chelsea are considering a move for Ben White in the January transfer window
Brighton defender White has been very impressive on loan at Leeds this season 
Although Brighton are reluctant to sell they could accept a bid of £25million 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-7793357/Chelsea-consider-January-Ben-White-Brighton-centre-impressing-loan-Leeds.html

Don't really know much about him to be honest, but I wouldn't be against thinking outside of the box with some of our transfer targets. If this is the sort of player we are targeting though it looks like our rebuilding plans are much more long term than trying to plug short term needs.

[NikkiCFC 8,323]

We are desperate. We need to drop 80m to Milan for Romagnoli. Something they can't reject! 

[whats happening 1,615]

lacazette is benched again. i would go for him

[Vesper 30,181]

Exclusive: Chelsea Consider January Move for Bordeaux Forward Josh Maja

https://www.90min.com/posts/6518038-exclusive-chelsea-consider-january-move-for-bordeaux-forward-josh-maja?utm_source=RSS

 

ffs, this is a player LEEDS should be looking at, NOT CHELSEA

take away his fluke hat trick versus bottom of the table Nimes, he has two league goals, one back in August

he cannot even break into their lineup as a full time starter and he is 21yo in 11 days, so is not a teen 

 

[Vesper 30,181]

22 hours ago, Rapkun said:

It's The Sun so it's probably fake but this is way more exciting than being linked with Ake. For having watched the player a few times, he's very promising. I doubt Brighton will be able to keep him.

you rate him over Ake???

make no mistake, just because I want a truly WC CB like Skriniar or Romagnoli, I want to be clear that I DO rate Ake, and fairly highly, so if this lad (I have only seen him once) is THAT good, then perhaps that £25m is not as enraging as it appears to be

he looks fairly skinny, and is only 1.82m (then again Ake even shorter, which is a worry)

Ake for me is an AC replacement

Romagnoli/Skriniar for Zouma and either will be a deffo starter (obviously)

I will keep an open mind and watch him play more

 

[Vesper 30,181]

Chelsea fans not keen on signing Wilfried Zaha

https://www.thechelseachronicle.com/club-news/chelsea-fans-not-keen-on-signing-wilfried-zaha/

Chelsea have been linked with a number of wingers in recent weeks, and a name that will not go away is Wilfried Zaha. The club could reportedly step up their interest in the Crystal Palace winger, despite his £80 million valuation. However, some fans are not keen on signing the Ivorian winger.

Zaha is widely regarded as one of the most direct wingers the Premier League has seen in recent times. He provides a huge threat when bearing down on a defender in a one-on-one situation, and can tempt defenders into making reckless challenges.

Despite this, some Chelsea fans are not convinced. His numbers this season in terms of goals and assists have been disappointing, to say the least. He has scored just two goals and provided one assist in 15 Premier League starts. These numbers are not traditionally those of an £80 million attacking investment.

Similar to former Chelsea man Eden Hazard, Zaha does drag numerous defenders his way which creates space for his teammates to exploit. This is a difficult statistic to measure, but one that is worth considering.

There is also the argument that Zaha’s Palace teammates could be hampering his output. It is fair to say that he would be surrounded by better players at Stamford Bridge, and that could be the catalyst for an upturn in his attacking exploits.

Despite this, his valuation and lack of goal contributions this season have left Chelsea fans unconvinced. Here is what some fans have had to say on Twitter about the ongoing rumours.

 

[NikkiCFC 8,323]

Ake buy back clause expires in January. 

Also Atletico willing to let Saul go for 85m. I'm thinking for around same money we can sell Kante and Jorginho and buy Saul and Havertz. Those two with Kovacic make perfect midfield 😍

[Blues Forever 1,232]

10 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

Ake buy back clause expires in January. 

Also Atletico willing to let Saul go for 85m. I'm thinking for around same money we can sell Kante and Jorginho and buy Saul and Havertz. Those two with Kovacic make perfect midfield 😍

I don't think this is going to sit well with our fanbase, though i agree next summer is the best time to sell Kante or Jorginho.

[MoroccanBlue 5,382]

Said it in the Kante thread where we are at a point where we wouldn’t really miss him 

[Nicco 927]

Don't mind selling Kante if we bring in a good replacement.

[Rapkun 668]

15 hours ago, Vesper said:

you rate him over Ake???

make no mistake, just because I want a truly WC CB like Skriniar or Romagnoli, I want to be clear that I DO rate Ake, and fairly highly, so if this lad (I have only seen him once) is THAT good, then perhaps that £25m is not as enraging as it appears to be

he looks fairly skinny, and is only 1.82m (then again Ake even shorter, which is a worry)

Ake for me is an AC replacement

Romagnoli/Skriniar for Zouma and either will be a deffo starter (obviously)

I will keep an open mind and watch him play more

 

I most certainly do. Ake would probably do a better job here than Christensen but I don't think he will improve us very much. Rudiger and Tomori are both superior. I watch quite a bit of Leeds, love watching Bielsa's teams they're very entertaining. Ben White is a class player, higher ceiling than Ake. He's a dominant CB, very composed in his aggression, controlling demeanour, comfortable with the ball.

He's still fairly young, just turned 22. Obviously he has yet to play in the PL so maybe he could require some time to adapt but I feel he would be worth the gamble. I'm not sure about his height, definitely looked taller than 1.82 but I could be wrong.

[Vesper 30,181]

4 minutes ago, Rapkun said:

I most certainly do. Ake would probably do a better job here than Christensen but I don't think he will improve us very much. Rudiger and Tomori are both superior. I watch quite a bit of Leeds, love watching Bielsa's teams they're very entertaining. Ben White is a class player, higher ceiling than Ake. He's a dominant CB, very composed in his aggression, controlling demeanour, comfortable with the ball.

He's still fairly young, just turned 22. Obviously he has yet to play in the PL so maybe he could require some time to adapt but I feel he would be worth the gamble. I'm not sure about his height, definitely looked taller than 1.82 but I could be wrong.

I double checked

he have a mini Koulibaly thang (Napoli lied for years, saying he was 1.95m, when in reality he was only 1.87m)

t-markt says 1.82m

wiki says 1.85m

[BDTips 34]

4 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

Ake buy back clause expires in January. 

Also Atletico willing to let Saul go for 85m. I'm thinking for around same money we can sell Kante and Jorginho and buy Saul and Havertz. Those two with Kovacic make perfect midfield 😍

Ake would be a logical and smart move.

For the rest, my god ..
Saul ??? 85M ??????
What a bad joke.
Even the fans of Atletico Madrid can't support him.
What an overrated player.

Havertz?
A good player project, but I have many doubts of what he could be, especially outside the Bundesliga.

Kante, Jorginho and Kovacic are the best we have.
We have to work from this base. Do not destroy it.

Kante is our most important player. World class. And there are those who want to sell him ...

... to buy SAUL!
No more internet for today.

If the club goes that way, we'll be closer to Everton level.

[MoroccanBlue 5,382]

13 minutes ago, BDTips said:

 

Kante, Jorginho and Kovacic are the best we have.
We have to work from this base. Do not destroy it.

Kante is our most important player. World class. And there are those who want to sell him ...

.

Kante's best attributes are when we don't have the ball. We are now implementing a system where we see more of it and are far more progressive in our play. 

I'm not sure if Saul is the answer, but if we are to replace Kante it has to be a huge one.