Mhsc 1,098 Posted May 6, 2024 Share Posted May 6, 2024 9 hours ago, ulvhedin said: So, let's say we sell Sterling - what are good realistic LW for us to sign? Apart from Kvicha and Leao, for whom we would have to break the bank? What about Eze? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mhsc 1,098 Posted May 6, 2024 Share Posted May 6, 2024 I wonder if we can even afford anyone anymore? Last year the spending seemed to have absolutely no cap but surely the fair play rules have to bite this summer. Thiago leaving frees up a bit of wages maybe, and selling Cobham graduates maybe keeps us afloat in terms of the rules, but surely to buy anyone we would need to do a LOT of selling this summer? Anyone seen any good analysis on this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulvhedin 526 Posted May 7, 2024 Share Posted May 7, 2024 14 hours ago, Mhsc said: I wonder if we can even afford anyone anymore? Last year the spending seemed to have absolutely no cap but surely the fair play rules have to bite this summer. Thiago leaving frees up a bit of wages maybe, and selling Cobham graduates maybe keeps us afloat in terms of the rules, but surely to buy anyone we would need to do a LOT of selling this summer? Anyone seen any good analysis on this? There've been many reports and amatauer analysis of this case, but many of them were contradicting to each other so I wouldn't really believe them fully Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,494 Posted May 7, 2024 Share Posted May 7, 2024 1 hour ago, ulvhedin said: There've been many reports and amatauer analysis of this case, but many of them were contradicting to each other so I wouldn't really believe them fully I think couple of sales and we're set. Club has already lined up Hall and Maatsen. If Saudis take Sterling (who has a v high wages) and Lukaku, then we'll be able to easily afford the spending we are looking to do - ST, LB and CB. bigbluewillie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mhsc 1,098 Posted May 7, 2024 Share Posted May 7, 2024 1 hour ago, ulvhedin said: There've been many reports and amatauer analysis of this case, but many of them were contradicting to each other so I wouldn't really believe them fully 2 minutes ago, Strike said: I think couple of sales and we're set. Club has already lined up Hall and Maatsen. If Saudis take Sterling (who has a v high wages) and Lukaku, then we'll be able to easily afford the spending we are looking to do - ST, LB and CB. Depending on where you look there is either reckless optimism or extreme pessimism. It seems like a lot depends on how creative the club are with how they do the accounts and these little clever tactical tricks like selling the hotel from one Chelsea entity to another etc make a huge difference. So after reading about it a bit I concluded that basically only people in the club can know what is feasible because basically the rules are so opaque and open to tricks that it is impossible for anyone to know. Even for the club itself I'm not sure THEY can know for sure because for example how the period we were under sanctions will be treated financially is completely unprecedented situation. Club must just be taking a risk based approach where they are saying the amount we are spending based on all of this is an acceptable risk and if anyone tries to punish us there are so many mitigating circumstances we can appeal and tie them up in 5 years of legal battles that we will have a pretty reasonable chance at winning. My personal guess is we can probably actually get away with spending £200m-£300m if we can actually afford it (irrelevant of FFP tricks, we have already spent a LOT of money in a world in which money is currently quite expensive) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kante 1,643 Posted May 7, 2024 Share Posted May 7, 2024 2 hours ago, Strike said: I think couple of sales and we're set. Club has already lined up Hall and Maatsen. If Saudis take Sterling (who has a v high wages) and Lukaku, then we'll be able to easily afford the spending we are looking to do - ST, LB and CB. Mount is also surprisingly on the books for this year rather than last. Mount at £55m, Hall at £28m and Maatsen at £35m gives us approximately £118m pure profit. Not sure what we need to do obviously but that strikes me as a solid amount to work around our previous spending. If we can somehow clear Lukaku, Kepa and Sterling that would surely give us some space to work with. bigbluewillie and Strike 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Clockwork 1,794 Posted May 7, 2024 Share Posted May 7, 2024 3 minutes ago, Strike said: I think you make exception for a talent like Estevao. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,494 Posted May 7, 2024 Share Posted May 7, 2024 4 minutes ago, Clockwork said: I think you make exception for a talent like Estevao. Is he on the level of Endrick? who's already scoring goals for Brazil Report says Madrid were interested in Estevao too but there's an issue between club chief scout and player's agent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,819 Posted May 7, 2024 Share Posted May 7, 2024 If we get more than £35M I will be happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,819 Posted May 7, 2024 Share Posted May 7, 2024 Fernando and bigbluewillie 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mhsc 1,098 Posted May 7, 2024 Share Posted May 7, 2024 23 minutes ago, ZAPHOD2319 said: If we get more than £35M I will be happy. For Broja? He's a £15m player all day long until he proves he can come back from his injury and goes on a run in the PL scoring goals. He's 23 in September and living off of hype. The only positive is that he's on £40k a week, which is a much better position than we used to end up in with young players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,819 Posted May 7, 2024 Share Posted May 7, 2024 20 minutes ago, Mhsc said: For Broja? He's a £15m player all day long until he proves he can come back from his injury and goes on a run in the PL scoring goals. He's 23 in September and living off of hype. The only positive is that he's on £40k a week, which is a much better position than we used to end up in with young players. It is amazing how inflated the prices have been in the past two years. 35M does not buy much these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,819 Posted May 7, 2024 Share Posted May 7, 2024 bigbluewillie, Vesper, Fernando and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted May 7, 2024 Share Posted May 7, 2024 (edited) 4 hours ago, Strike said: Are Cole, Noni and Angelo not young left footed right wingers though? I get Cole has played centrally also but surely a left winger is more a priority given Mudryk’s genuine lack of ability and Sterling struggling here. Fuck knows though, this recruitment team and strategy has been very erratic. Probably buy 2 more GKs in the summer also. Which again is probably needed given how average the ones we signed were. And be another summer with no deal for a proper first choice CF or CB I bet. Edited May 7, 2024 by OneMoSalah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,819 Posted May 7, 2024 Share Posted May 7, 2024 We need to give Slonina some serious minutes in pre-season. He is young, but if he is ready, get him out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted May 7, 2024 Share Posted May 7, 2024 (edited) 30 minutes ago, ZAPHOD2319 said: We need to give Slonina some serious minutes in pre-season. He is young, but if he is ready, get him out there. Only thing with that is also if he isn’t ready then again, it’s back to square 1. Petrovic and Sanchez aren’t anywhere near good enough either. Sanchez maybe be a reasonable number 2 given his HG status but he is the best of the 2 of them and that is a problem in its own right. Unless Kepa is coming back but again, not the best. Edited May 7, 2024 by OneMoSalah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,494 Posted May 7, 2024 Share Posted May 7, 2024 1 hour ago, OneMoSalah said: Are Cole, Noni and Angelo not young left footed right wingers though? I get Cole has played centrally also but surely a left winger is more a priority given Mudryk’s genuine lack of ability and Sterling struggling here. Fuck knows though, this recruitment team and strategy has been very erratic. Probably buy 2 more GKs in the summer also. Which again is probably needed given how average the ones we signed were. And be another summer with no deal for a proper first choice CF or CB I bet. So is Kendry Paez, another wonderkid they’ve signed. They’re obsessed with finding the next breakout wonderkid Fernando and OneMoSalah 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,494 Posted May 7, 2024 Share Posted May 7, 2024 27 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said: Only thing with that is also if he isn’t ready then again, it’s back to square 1. Petrovic and Sanchez aren’t anywhere near good enough either. Sanchez maybe be a reasonable number 2 given his HG status but he is the best of the 2 of them and that is a problem in its own right. Unless Kepa is coming back but again, not the best. Is there an upgrade in the market ? Ramsdale is available but I’d hold off on making a move Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted May 7, 2024 Share Posted May 7, 2024 1 hour ago, Strike said: So is Kendry Paez, another wonderkid they’ve signed. They’re obsessed with finding the next breakout wonderkid Yeah forgot him as well. Just looking at stockpiling again, same thing the Abramovich regime was heavily criticised for. Multi club model isn’t looking like something that will happen/survive longterm given UEFA wanting to come down hard on it. So seems pointless. 1 hour ago, Strike said: Is there an upgrade in the market ? Ramsdale is available but I’d hold off on making a move Ramsdale probably is on paper but I get the feeling he is like Kepa. His confidence took a huge knock in the run in last season when Arsenal ultimately blew the title. Now he doesn’t get a look ahead of Raya who isn’t particularly much better either in terms of shotstopping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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