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1 minute ago, Mário César said:

so many outgoings

if we sell also lukaku we maybe get close to 300M euros for sales 

abysmal!

You have to remember... these players that we are selling are shite. We have had the torture of watching these clowns pretend to be footballers for quite some time now. They are worth pennies.

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18 minutes ago, Mário César said:

what do you think about livramento join newcastle?

well we have reece and malo gusto but its weird to see so many academy players joining another top english teams 

beisdes, guehi is talked to join Arsenal for example....

so many youngs to join other clubs that make me think what could they archive in our club

For the whole season I've been confused with new ownership playing the english-heritage-london's own note with Potter and their communications and at the same time throwing away academy players/HG's like there's no tomorrow. Heck, even asked multiple times whether we are sure board is aware of HG rules and fact that their random purchases will be over 21 one day.

BUT, although I'm still bit salty about Lamptey, who could prove useful many times recently, would those academy players ever find the way to first team? Maaaybe Colwill. It seems like James, Mount and Tammy were the last times academy hit the spot and it was a while ago, so it may be indicating there's something wrong with academy functioning or random slump in talent, not the transfer policy really. 

9 minutes ago, DDA said:

You have to remember... these players that we are selling are shite. We have had the torture of watching these clowns pretend to be footballers for quite some time now. They are worth pennies.

Still don't really buy this narrative; If they are good for City and United, whose recruitment is way above ours, are they really shit for us? Inter or Milan are not exactly bad clubs either. We surely didn't make ourselves any favors with idiotic buying spree, hardly marketable season and locking players with stupid wages (KK, Lukaku). Players we are desperately trying to let go are still like top-30 clubs level. And I won't be very surprised if we will regret this fire sale sooner than later.

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Getting rid of ALL of your deadwood in one summer is the stuff most big clubs dream of but can never do. But we’re actually doing it!

A couple of months ago when some of the Chelsea reporters talked about how the club were going to sell an absurd number of players this summer I just rolled my eyes and thought to myself “uh huh, sure. There’s no way we’ll be able to move most of these dudes.” But we’re actually selling every player I thought would be impossible to shift. 

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4 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Getting rid of ALL of your deadwood in one summer is the stuff most big clubs dream of but can never do. But we’re actually doing it!

A couple of months ago when some of the Chelsea reporters talked about how the club were going to sell an absurd number of players this summer I just rolled my eyes and thought to myself “uh huh, sure. There’s no way we’ll be able to move most of these dudes.” But we’re actually selling every player I thought would be impossible to shift. 

Yeah, now let’s see what’s next. I wonder if we’ll be able to convince Colwill to extend his contract. 

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14 minutes ago, Vegetable said:

For the whole season I've been confused with new ownership playing the english-heritage-london's own note with Potter and their communications and at the same time throwing away academy players/HG's like there's no tomorrow. Heck, even asked multiple times whether we are sure board is aware of HG rules and fact that their random purchases will be over 21 one day.

BUT, although I'm still bit salty about Lamptey, who could prove useful many times recently, would those academy players ever find the way to first team? Maaaybe Colwill. It seems like James, Mount and Tammy were the last times academy hit the spot and it was a while ago, so it may be indicating there's something wrong with academy functioning or random slump in talent, not the transfer policy really. 

Colwill and Hall are first team, then you have Gallagher. Lost Musiala. There is also Ian Maatson. I think the Academy has been producing fine. Frankie Runham is probably my best bet to make it from the academy, you can also count Hutchinson but i don’t count him as an academy player since he came from Arsenal academy.
 

 

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39 minutes ago, DDA said:

You have to remember... these players that we are selling are shite. We have had the torture of watching these clowns pretend to be footballers for quite some time now. They are worth pennies.

yes some of them are weak and others, being good (kovacic, havertz and mount), don't seem to me to be good enough to the point that we miss them 

about kovacic, he is a good player, but there are cycles that close and it is normal that he himself wants another challenge

about havertz and mount, they are youngsters with potential, but i don't think they will ever reach levels like KDB, Salah and so on. they are very good sales, and if the money is used to hire players like Caicedo, then i am satisfied with the sale

at the beginning of the season it will be strange to see them playing for rivals, but I believe they will be problems for other clubs and we won't miss them so much.

it was also hard to see mata and matic playing at united, but they both haven't reached the level they reached at Chelsea

there are too many players that are over, unhappy or were simply bad signings, like koulibaly and we are rectifying past mistakes and, of course, there are players that the cycle closes like azpilicueta and kanté, who are two legends of the club 

mendy is a sad case but we can't keep kepa and mendy in the squad and honestly i would prefer kepa to leave, but mendy is the one who has more market and was sacrificed

players like ziyech, pulisic and ruben cheek won't be missed 

it's time for new blood and new challenges for both Chelsea and them 

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54 minutes ago, Vegetable said:

For the whole season I've been confused with new ownership playing the english-heritage-london's own note with Potter and their communications and at the same time throwing away academy players/HG's like there's no tomorrow. Heck, even asked multiple times whether we are sure board is aware of HG rules and fact that their random purchases will be over 21 one day.

BUT, although I'm still bit salty about Lamptey, who could prove useful many times recently, would those academy players ever find the way to first team? Maaaybe Colwill. It seems like James, Mount and Tammy were the last times academy hit the spot and it was a while ago, so it may be indicating there's something wrong with academy functioning or random slump in talent, not the transfer policy really. 

Still don't really buy this narrative; If they are good for City and United, whose recruitment is way above ours, are they really shit for us? Inter or Milan are not exactly bad clubs either. We surely didn't make ourselves any favors with idiotic buying spree, hardly marketable season and locking players with stupid wages (KK, Lukaku). Players we are desperately trying to let go are still like top-30 clubs level. And I won't be very surprised if we will regret this fire sale sooner than later.

Some of the academy players were sold before the sale of the club. 

the truth is that the problem is that there are so many players formed by the club that it is impossible to keep them all. 
a top club can't waste time in betting on all the academy players because they need results at the moment and those young players also can't lose the opportunity to play and so they have to be sold to other clubs

there are always players that are going to pay off and sign for other clubs, as there are other players that will end up staying behind and will stay at those mid table clubs, as is the case of lamptey 

City is feeling what we have been feeling with latvia, since he is a player that now, this year, will play in a big club and it will not be man city

it is always risky to sell so many young players like that, like gilmour for example, but the truth is that it is also impossible to bet on all of them at the same time

right now we have ian maatsen and hall for the left defender position, besides chilwell and cucurella

at least one between hall and maatsen will be sold and probably be another wasted talent, just like livramento, but we are fine in those two positions 

I forget about Tomori and even chalobah I believe he will be fine at inter

tomori is been playing nicely at Milan and another talent that we have to sold 

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10 minutes ago, Mário César said:

The truth is that many of them are not needed, but still....

One thing is this (and every other really) board dynamics of people wanting all players out because they are annoyed with them, while objectively they are not Saul-level futile, but the true problem is what someone pointed out really well in Noni's thread - Does eg Mudryk and Madueke provide at least Pulisic's level of output? Meeeeh. Still everyone wants Puli out. We have no immediate replacements, not to mention upgrades to a lot of unwanted players. We are betting on Noni becoming better than Pulisic one day, but it creates a huge hole now. Depending on when and IF new players will step up, we may be seeing another relegation battle shitshow next season. Wings are especially concerning to me, but up front it's the same - Lukaku is dreadful, but is Broja getting out and punishing entire PL? Doubt it. Are people we are being linked with as Kante/Kova/Mount replacements are really right here and right now equal or better players? Plus, personally I don't trust our board a smallest bit in terms of choosing and actually landing the targets. People claiming Kante/Havertz/Mount/Kova or even KK to some extent are "shit" are letting their annoyance overshadow the reality imo.

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