TheHulk 2,483 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Just now, xPetrCechx said: What does this mean? That company pays all the money and we pay the company the money back in time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,224 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Marc Cucurella's reaction when we told him Jorginho was joining Arsenal 😱 OneMoSalah, Hamilton, NikkiCFC and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,819 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 MAD!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,224 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, xPetrCechx said: Enzo Fernandez is at Hospital da Luz undergoing medical tests. [@SICNoticias via @CabineSport] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altezzoso 13 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 1 minute ago, TheHulk said: That company pays all the money and we pay the company the money back in time. Typically Enzo will get the loan and will use his unpaid wages as collateral Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Vesper said: Marc Cucurella's reaction when we told him Jorginho was joining Arsenal 😱 Well some might argue he is still right about Jorgi. can’t blame the guy. won’t have a better shot at PL anytime soon and is in the twilight years already. Had his perks, never been much of fan but no hard feelings now he’s Gone. Clearly short of legend status tho Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 (edited) This still has a smell of going wrong. Hopefully not but not very confident ATM, seems as if we’ve gotten them where we want them only to realise we cant pay it/have to rethink ways of paying it. If we keep dicking about with alternative ways then they might change their minds completely. Edited January 31, 2023 by OneMoSalah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,224 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 14 minutes ago, TheHulk said: https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/small-business/factoring-company Factoring companies provide financing to businesses that have cash tied up in unpaid invoices. Instead of offering traditional small-business loans, these companies buy outstanding invoices at a discount — giving you access to needed funds sooner. Below, learn more about invoice factoring companies and how to choose the best one for your needs. What is a factoring company? A factoring company provides invoice factoring services, which involves buying a business’s unpaid invoices at a discount. The business gets a percentage of the invoice, say 85%, within a few days, and the factoring company takes ownership of the invoice and the payment process. Once your client pays their invoice (directly to the factoring company), you get the rest of the money your business is owed (the remaining 15% of the invoice amount) minus the factoring company’s fees. snip How factoring companies work What's it like to work with a factoring company? Here's an example: Say you sell $20,000 worth of invoices to a factoring company and it agrees to buy them for $19,600, taking a 2% factoring fee of $400. The company usually doesn’t give you the full value of the invoices upfront. Rather, it may give you 85% upfront — in this case, $16,660 — and once your customer pays the invoices, you’ll receive the remaining $2,940. To make money, invoice factoring companies charge factoring or factor fees (sometimes also called discount rates). These fees tend to range from 1% to 5% of the total invoice amount. The factoring fee you're charged typically depends on how much the invoice is worth, your business’s sales volume, how creditworthy your customer is and whether the factoring agreement is "recourse" or "non-recourse,” among other qualifications. It’s important to note that if you have a recourse factoring agreement, your business is liable for the debt if your customer doesn’t pay their invoice. With non-recourse factoring, the factoring company assumes most of the risk if your customer doesn’t pay, but it charges a higher factor rate to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,279 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 5 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said: Well some might argue he is still right about Jorgi. can’t blame the guy. won’t have a better shot at PL anytime soon and is in the twilight years already. Had his perks, never been much of fan but no hard feelings now he’s Gone. Clearly short of legend status tho I just don't like seeing any of our players going to that shit hole. xPetrCechx 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,224 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Just now, Vesper said: https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/small-business/factoring-company Factoring companies provide financing to businesses that have cash tied up in unpaid invoices. Instead of offering traditional small-business loans, these companies buy outstanding invoices at a discount — giving you access to needed funds sooner. Below, learn more about invoice factoring companies and how to choose the best one for your needs. What is a factoring company? A factoring company provides invoice factoring services, which involves buying a business’s unpaid invoices at a discount. The business gets a percentage of the invoice, say 85%, within a few days, and the factoring company takes ownership of the invoice and the payment process. Once your client pays their invoice (directly to the factoring company), you get the rest of the money your business is owed (the remaining 15% of the invoice amount) minus the factoring company’s fees. snip How factoring companies work What's it like to work with a factoring company? Here's an example: Say you sell $20,000 worth of invoices to a factoring company and it agrees to buy them for $19,600, taking a 2% factoring fee of $400. The company usually doesn’t give you the full value of the invoices upfront. Rather, it may give you 85% upfront — in this case, $16,660 — and once your customer pays the invoices, you’ll receive the remaining $2,940. To make money, invoice factoring companies charge factoring or factor fees (sometimes also called discount rates). These fees tend to range from 1% to 5% of the total invoice amount. The factoring fee you're charged typically depends on how much the invoice is worth, your business’s sales volume, how creditworthy your customer is and whether the factoring agreement is "recourse" or "non-recourse,” among other qualifications. It’s important to note that if you have a recourse factoring agreement, your business is liable for the debt if your customer doesn’t pay their invoice. With non-recourse factoring, the factoring company assumes most of the risk if your customer doesn’t pay, but it charges a higher factor rate to do so. This is some next level bankster dirty magic, lololol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,941 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Jorginho is bang average like but to give Arsenal that wealth of experience when they are on a title charge is strange. You can't see it as a clever move for us whatsoever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,282 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 1 minute ago, DDA said: Jorginho is bang average like but to give Arsenal that wealth of experience when they are on a title charge is strange. You can't see it as a clever move for us whatsoever. jorginho is a good player in the right context for us it is short so playing in arsenal is the best for us. he don't have legs anymore. not good enought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,224 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 1 minute ago, DDA said: Jorginho is bang average like but to give Arsenal that wealth of experience when they are on a title charge is strange. You can't see it as a clever move for us whatsoever. its a plus £15m move for 3 and a half or so months of play £12m fee gained and £3m owed in salary poofed Artandur 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,941 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 (edited) I guess if you're looking at the financial of the move... it's a plus... I just hate any of our players joining those fuckers even if all the Arsenal lads at work are pissed off by it. Edited January 31, 2023 by DDA OneMoSalah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artandur 939 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Vesper said: its a plus £15m move for 3 and a half or so months of play £12m fee gained and £3m owed in salary poofed Probably even 1-2m on top if they win the pl Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, Vesper said: its a plus £15m move for 3 and a half or so months of play £12m fee gained and £3m owed in salary poofed I see it the same way. Financially sound to get rid of a players with little left to offer a few months early with a nice sum on top is smart busines. Some ppl act like he is gonna fire Arsenal to the PL title on his own. I mean come on. They worked that 8 pt gap without him. If they are gonna somehow stage an epic collapse how is Jorginho gonna prevent it? We lost so many leads with him on the pitch, its comical. If they are gonna give that title up it will be bc of losing the big games, esp the city games. What good will Jorginho do them there chasing after the ball in his trademark slow motion? the only thing I will miss is his pen conversion rate. Watch us suddenly miss those Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,224 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Artandur said: Probably even 1-2m on top if they win the pl I am ruthless when it comes to selling players I am not invested in emotionally or rationally if people want to objurgate the club about the sale, blame the old regime's shit contractual management, which has fucking just decimated us over the years and may well light us on fire with Mount Norfolkblue1961 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jype 6,398 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Vesper said: its a plus £15m move for 3 and a half or so months of play £12m fee gained and £3m owed in salary poofed Yep, it's no doubt already good deal even if we don't get a replacement in. And if Enzo comes it will be a brilliant piece of business to sell Jorginho. Enzo would probably play as many games as possible and Jorginho would be reduced to a backup and I'd say £15M is a hell of a lot money for a backup midfielder who'd start at most around 5 games and maybe a further 10-15 sub appearances between now and the end of the season before leaving on a free. Edited January 31, 2023 by Jype Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,224 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Magic Lamps said: the only thing I will miss is his pen conversion rate. Watch us suddenly miss those we can always buy (if we pass on my preferred overall options) my favourite homegrown CF target the auto pen machine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Dunno if right, but I see Enzo as a clear long-term replacement for Kante, not Jorginho, not in terms of quality, but in characteristics esp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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