lluubbeenn 174 Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, Pizy said: It seems as though we made our intentions known to Benfica that we would be paying his release clause at some point many weeks ago. We then spoke directly to Enzo, convinced him to come and agreed personal terms, and then when it came down to actually negotiating with Benfica we submitted a bid way below the release clause. You can certainly why the coach and club reacted so angrily. Benfica is a selling club so long as you pay what they ask. They were probably resigned to reluctantly sell him because the release clause was too much to turn down. But when we instead lowball them and mess with the players head you get the reaction we saw. They can not turn down the release clause. That is the whole point of a it existing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegetable 830 Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, Jype said: Closer to what? He already signed for the Saudi team last week. It was rumored TB was very eager to bring him in soon after takeover but it was blocked by TT. I thought it was ridiculous, but now I believe TB could really see him more as a stop-gap filler than marketing asset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,279 Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 22 minutes ago, Vegetable said: It was rumored TB was very eager to bring him in soon after takeover but it was blocked by TT. I thought it was ridiculous, but now I believe TB could really see him more as a stop-gap filler than marketing asset. He's just signed for a new club... Making like 500k a day or something absolutely crazy like that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,224 Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 2 hours ago, didi007 said: It beggars belief people still think these same players who also won the Champions league and Super cup are suddenly bad players? With the right coaching these players are some of the best in the PL. erm, did you see the way we were playing with the same manager and the same players since we won those? we have been crushed with injuries as well let's also drill down this was the CL Final-winning team: in BOLD BLACK are gone from the club (plus CHO, who is on loan) in Bold RED are players injured a tonne since in Bold BLUE are players who should stay (as should Reece and Chilwell) Of these the most contentious on here are only 2, Havertz and Mount, and both have been poor, under multiple managers at times in BOLD GREEN need to GO (Kante, listed in Bold Red already, IF he accepts OUR deal, then fine, he stays, as we will not get shit for him) Kepa perhaps as a backup, but I would rather sell him there is NO legit debate on the greens, they are all done with us as a way forward, poor players now, Jorginho is a fucking mess, the ONLY player on the planet (no bullshit) who made him acceptable was prime Kante and Wee Baldy is well spent as a day-to-day force GK 16 Édouard Mendy CB 28 César Azpilicueta (c) CB 6 Thiago Silva 39' CB 2 Antonio Rüdiger 57' RB 24 Reece James LB 21 Ben Chilwell CM 5 Jorginho CM 7 N'Golo Kanté AM 29 Kai Havertz AM 19 Mason Mount 80' CF 11 Timo Werner 66' Substitutes: GK 1 Kepa Arrizabalaga (back up only) GK 13 Willy Caballero DF 3 Marcos Alonso DF 4 Andreas Christensen 39' DF 15 Kurt Zouma DF 33 Emerson MF 10 Christian Pulisic 66' MF 17 Mateo Kovačić 80' MF 20 Callum Hudson-Odoi (Loan) MF 22 Hakim Ziyech MF 23 Billy Gilmour FW 18 Olivier Giroud Quote With the right coaching these players are some of the best in the PL. who? certainly none of the ones in Green (the gotta goes) plus Kai has struggled under every manager here Mount has struggled now lately under Tuchel and under Potter the others in Blue, ie the stays (Thiago and Kova), plus Reece, Chilwell, and Kante are fine when fully healthy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 29 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said: At this point surely kalvin Phillips has to be looked at? I really wouldn't have a problem with him here. carthorse Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,224 Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 28 minutes ago, Jype said: Closer to what? He already signed for the Saudi team last week. they let the cat out of the bag CR7 is coming to our house for a party as our birthday present to my asshole BIL in February Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,279 Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 10 minutes ago, lucio said: carthorse You obviously didn't pay close attention to Leeds, he was the main reason they could play like they did, and look what happend when he got injured Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,224 Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 12 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said: He's just signed for a new club... Making like 500k a day or something absolutely crazy like that yep, £3.5m PW, lololol no taxes, so like £7m PW gross if in the EU a million quid per day gross equivalent 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,279 Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Vesper said: yep, £3.5m PW, lololol no taxes, so like £7m PW gross if in the EU a million quid per day gross equivalent 🤣 Yeah GL paying them wages on a loan deal 🤣🤣 kinda makes 11m for Felix look like a steel haha Edited January 11, 2023 by YorkshireBlue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,224 Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said: Yeah GL paying them wages on a loan deal 🤣🤣 5 months would cost £150m just in wages (as taxes would come out, so we would have to double it up to pay him the same net) lololol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,279 Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 7 minutes ago, Vesper said: 5 months would cost £150m just in wages (as taxes would come out, so we would have to double it up to pay him the same net) lololol I'd rather meet Jimmy savile as a child, than pay that for him Blue Armour and Vesper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,224 Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 7 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said: I'd rather meet Jimmy savile as a child Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegetable 830 Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 Atleti fans claim each Felix's goal had cost them 2.4 mil euro, hope it will come cheaper for us. Btw, funnily enough Felix was claimed football god after 6 months in Benfica before he flopped after getting big move, so genuinely interested what he will show here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,941 Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 People not rating Mac Alister?? I'd take him over Mount in a heartbeat. Hes a far better player in my opinion. It's extremely worrying that we are looking to give Mount a new contract along with a permanently injured Kante. Turning into a circus here. NikkiCFC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,335 Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 16 minutes ago, Vegetable said: Atleti fans claim each Felix's goal had cost them 2.4 mil euro, hope it will come cheaper for us. Btw, funnily enough Felix was claimed football god after 6 months in Benfica before he flopped after getting big move, so genuinely interested what he will show here. For sure he will get some injury or will be dropped after bad games and in the end he will cost us 1m per game just playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,335 Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, YorkshireBlue said: At this point surely kalvin Phillips has to be looked at? I really wouldn't have a problem with him here. You are clearly biased towards home-grown players. You like Mount and want Rice and Phillips here. All 3 mid table players at best. Edited January 11, 2023 by NikkiCFC DDA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TheHulk 2,483 Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, DDA said: People not rating Mac Alister?? I'd take him over Mount in a heartbeat. Hes a far better player in my opinion. It's extremely worrying that we are looking to give Mount a new contract along with a permanently injured Kante. Turning into a circus here. Alister over Mount any day but on top of Mason staying meh. Edited January 11, 2023 by TheHulk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,952 Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 Seeing quotes from Potter now saying Pulisic is out injured again for as long as a couple of months. We need to bin this crock the moment the summer window opens. Made of glass is an understatement when it comes to him. Get the 2 lightweight wingers Pulisic and Ziyech out and replace them with some strong, powerful athletes. Vesper and Costa19 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jype 6,398 Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 27 minutes ago, Vegetable said: Atleti fans claim each Felix's goal had cost them 2.4 mil euro, hope it will come cheaper for us. That €2.4M figure for every goal contribution (G+A) is sensationalist, and would only be true if he left on a free transfer now which obviously won't be the case. But assuming the loan won't be made permanent (no buy option) I really fear a few million a goal is what we're going to be paying for Felix. Total cost of the loan is around €18M including loan fee and wages so he'd have to score or assist ten goals or more to even take it under €2M per goal contribution. Considering the amount of games remaining the more likely return would be a maximum of five goals and a couple of assists which would amount to somewhere between €2M and €3M per goal involvement. That's how fucking bonkers the loan is. The only way this deal can make any sense financially is if he somehow lightens up the whole team and we make the UCL qualification (which we won't) or we somehow fluke our way to another UCL title (which we won't). If either of those happens the deal will have been an unprecedented masterstroke but realistically the chances are very slim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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