Chelsea Transfers

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3 hours ago, Hashishi said:

Remember when we signed Ballack? I bet a buttload of clubs were after him that summer, yet he chose us. That is what really pull is. That is what Boehly lost us in one summer. That is what Potter will never have. Player like Ballack will never play for a transition club like were are now. The risk is to perpetually always be stuck in transition like ManUre.

How did Boehly lose this in one summer? Ballack was 15 years ago. We were on the decline for a long time and in need of a transition period. Last elite signing was probably Kante in 16 and even that was out of the blue. Have to go back to Eden in 12 to find the last genuine signing where we jumped the market on a surefire superstar.

We've lucked out we have a superstar (Reece) and a decent workhorse (Mount) who came through the academy. But otherwise - the very top prospects haven't considered Chelsea as an option in years. The Havertz/Werner 2020 window was an anomaly given most clubs were not active in the market during COVID crisis.

 

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9 hours ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

While I feel we've had him signed and sealed since September. 🙂 

I so hope so

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14 hours ago, Tomo said:

I didn't realise Yann Sommer's a free agent next summer.

We should be all over that.

he was horrid yesterday

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8 hours ago, Hashishi said:

Remember when we signed Ballack? I bet a buttload of clubs were after him that summer, yet he chose us. That is what really pull is. That is what Boehly lost us in one summer. That is what Potter will never have. Player like Ballack will never play for a transition club like were are now. The risk is to perpetually always be stuck in transition like ManUre.

But United have still retained their 'pull' for big players and look at where it's got them. I'd even argue the likes of Pogba, Schweinsteiger, Varane, Ronaldo, etc have damaged the balance of the team at times and been more of a hindrance than a help. 

I was a huge fan of Ballack, but it must also be noted that bringing in him and Shevchenko at the time did provide more questions than answers as to striking the right balance to the side and how to fit everyone in. Both joined a double title winning side, and we then didn't win it again for 4 years after this.

The key is good, clever recruitment, rebuilding the team from the ground up. There are players out there that will jump at the chance to join us and in turn have the right attributes to benefit us too. The bulk of players that Liverpool and City have recruited in recent years under Klopp and Pep are ones which would be achievable to sign for us, with most coming from 'mid-tier' clubs, but our recruitment/scouting has been poor for years and regular managerial changes has always left our squad completely unbalanced and strengthening in the wrong areas at the wrong times.

Players like Bellingham and Endrick wouldn't have joined us even if Roman and Tuchel were still at the club. The lack of stability here makes us unattractive to top young talents compared to alternatives. The key as @OhForAGreavsiementioned the other day is to lay the groundwork for us in 3, 4, 5 years' time to be in a position to attract that type of player in the future, and I don't necessarily mean the Bellingham now but the Bellingham at Birmingham before he moved to Dortmund. I do believe, given time, that the new ownership has a more structured long-term plan than Roman ever had or even desired, which will hopefully serve the club well in years to come.

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11 hours ago, Hashishi said:

So that's it for Endrick. Everyone is in for Goncalo Ramos now he scored a hattrick in WC finals. Bellingham probably isn't going to choose us. 

 

Time to focus on signings from Swedish 5th division where our manager has some pull.

Ettan Fotboll

third tier here in Sweden

that is where Potter started with Östersunds

AIK's (the team we follow here in Stockholm) next game is versus Östersunds in the Svenska Cupen

 

AIK:

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Linked with Sancho??

Err... no thanks.

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16 minutes ago, DDA said:

Linked with Sancho??

Err... no thanks.

yes, hell no unless it's on a free, lolol

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23 minutes ago, DDA said:

Linked with Sancho??

Err... no thanks.

 

5 minutes ago, Vesper said:

yes, hell no unless it's on a free, lolol

Swap deal for Pulisic or Ziyech, who says no? 

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17 hours ago, Hashishi said:

Benfica have pull though. Arguably rhe best team in Portugal whose language many South Americans speak, excellent record of developing players and CL every year. Have I missed anything?

We will most likely be our of CL next year based on form. All of our Portuguese and Spanish speaking players are leaving next summer or the one after. Our record of developing players is dismal at best, apart from Hazard who went on to flop at Real.

Embarrassing to say but even Benfica have more pull for South American talent than us.

Please re-read what I said and point out where I mentioned SA. I'll wait...

Have you seen our academy in recent years and those that have made the step up to the first team? Did they "develop" elsewhere and then magically appear across the EPL?

The less I say about embarrassing opinions, the better.

We're under new ownership & are clearly going in a different direction, so the past has little to no relevance to what's to come.

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2 hours ago, Jype said:

 

Swap deal for Pulisic or Ziyech, who says no? 

I'd rather keep Puli or Ziyech to be honest. 

Sancho of Dortmund, in a heartbeat. 

Sancho of United, hell no.

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sancho cant be worse than this i think. pulisic is always injured and ziyech is bad. would take the swap

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In-demand Simakan pens long-term RB Leipzig deal

RB Leipzig has handed defender Mohamed Simakan a contract extension that runs to 2027 in a bid to ward off reported interest from several of Europe's biggest clubs.

https://www.beinsports.com/au/bundesliga/news/in-demand-simakan-pens-long-term-rb-leipzig-d/2000720

 

another class CB off the table

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23 hours ago, Vesper said:

I so hope so

Yep, let's hope that, for once, I'm right and you're wrong. 🙂

As you know, my guess is based on the fact that a medical has been completed. Clubs don't do medicals on players they are merely interested in. Medicals only occur when agreements have been reached,  and legally binding paperwork has to be signed.

There is no doubt that Chelsea are very interested in signing a number of players in the next two windows. None of those, other than Nkunku, is known to have completed a CFC medical. What's more, any medical completed in summer 2022 would no longer be valid for a transfer to be sealed in 2023 so a new one would have to be done anyway. The whole exercise of a 2022 medical would have been a waste of effort and money unless the deal was signed at the time. I therefore believe that, if a medical was completed in September it can only mean the player joined us in September.

Edited December 8, 2022 by OhForAGreavsie

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43 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

Yep, let's hope that, for once, I'm right and you're wrong. 🙂

As you know, my guess is based on the fact that a medical has been completed. Clubs don't do medicals on players they are merely interested in. Medicals only occur when agreements have been reached,  and legally binding paperwork has to be signed.

There is no doubt that Chelsea are very interested in signing a number of players in the next two windows. None of those, other than Nkunku, is known to have completed a CFC medical. What's more, any medical completed in summer 2022 would no longer be valid for a transfer to be sealed in 2023 so a new one would have to be done anyway. The whole exercise of a 2022 medical would have been a waste of effort and money unless the deal was signed at the time. I therefore believe that, if a medical was completed in September it can only mean the player joined us in September.

I am not saying we will get Nkunku over the line, I just do not think its 100% a done deal.

I fully admit I may well be wrong.

I am truly worried about Gvardiol. Once a player, unprompted, mentions Real as a dream club, it is pretty much over.

Bellingham was always a massive stretch, and now, with his taking his play to truly WC levels for the past 12 months, I think the only way we have a shot is via brute force money, and if Citeh are involved and unlock the pursestrings, or Pool or Manure really splash the cash (both may soon have new owners as well), or again, IF he is under the Real spell, we are likely fucked.

Endrick was never coming here, he always was Real-bound. It is why I never put a lot of faith in all the 'news' that we were the clear frontrunner.

 

Palmeiras have an even younger wunderkind

Estêvão Willian (not William, which is how sloppy sites are spelling it)

15yo, born in 2007, a left footer as well, and a winger

Palmeiras just turned down €35m for him from PSG

 

 

 

 

https://www.palmeiras.com.br/sub-17/

Nome: Estêvão Willian Almeida de Oliveira Gonçalves
Idade: 15 anos (24/04/2007)
Local de Nascimento: Franca-SP
Altura: 1,70m
Pé dominante: esquerdo
Chegada ao Palmeiras: 2021
Palmeiras Sub-17 2022: 34 J / 23 G
Palmeiras Sub-15 2022: 4 J / 8 G
Palmeiras Sub-15 2021: 17 J / 3 G
Títulos: Paulista Sub-17 (2022), Paulista Sub-15 (2022), Copa do Brasil Sub-17 (2022), Campeonato Brasileiro Sub-17 (2022), Paulista Sub-15 e Festival TSFC Sub-15

ESTÊVÃO
Atacante

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Gabriel Martinelli 'followed' by Barcelona at World Cup amid Arsenal contract uncertainty

Arsenal forward Gabriel Martinelli has yet to agree on a new long-term deal and it has emerged that the Brazilian is being monitored by Barcelona, who are weighing up a swoop

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/arsenal-barcelona-transfers-martinelli-worldcup-28674689

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1 hour ago, ZAPHOD2319 said:

 

I wonder if they will also move for Estêvão.

They certainly are lickrish enough for 'as many super youth prospect Brasilians as possible' to do it.

Similar situ to when they moved for both Vini Jr and Rodrygo.

PLUS they also have that 20yo AMF, Reinier, out on loan, after buying him for €30m in 2020 from Flamengo

- Eder Militão €50 million
- Reinier Jesus: €30 million
- Rodrygo: €45 million
- Vinicius Junior: €45 million
- Endrick: €72 million
- Estêvão Willian: ????

If they drop around €50m or so on Estêvão, they are very close to €300m total transfer and add-on spend for those 6

RM need to start putting the Brasilian flag on their kits, lolol

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4 minutes ago, Vesper said:

I wonder if they will also move for Estêvão.

They certainly are lickrish enough for 'as many super youth prospect Brasilians as possible' to do it.

Similar situ to when they moved for both Vini Jr and Rodrygo.

PLUS they also have that 20yo AMF, Reinier, out on loan, after buying him for €30m in 2020 from Flamengo

- Eder Militão €50 million
- Reinier Jesus: €30 million
- Rodrygo: €45 million
- Vinicius Junior: €45 million
- Endrick: €72 million
- Estêvão Willian: ????

If they drop around €50m or so on Estêvão, they are very close to €300m total transfer and add-on spend for those 6

RM need to start putting the Brasilian flag on their kits, lolol

I think this is their next deal. RM is in a league of their own with turning players heads.