Chelsea Transfers

[Superblue 6,372]

20 minutes ago, Vesper said:

If we pay £80m for Chillwell and sign him to a 7 year contract at £150K PW, he will cost us £135m overall. Add that to Kepa's full cost of £142m, and that is £277m over 7 years cumulative cost for just TWO players in the 2 lowest priced positions overall: fullback and GK.

FFP? Wot

 

That is the biggest issue with this. A great keeper is worth his weight in gold (Cech is testament to this) and we are in desperate need for a left back. Having a duel threat from our full backs should theoretically have a big effect on our ability to break teams down because it will give opposition another weapon to attempt to nullify rather than just trying to pack the middle and push us out wide.

But in regards to transfer fees, they are two of the worst positions to make a mistake because the general trend is they won't command transfer fees like other positions. 

We've gotten away with a mistake like Morata because teams are more likely willing to overpay for an attacking player who is more likely to 'make the difference'. I would much rather we pursue an alternative option than Chilwell.

[Jase 43,479]

9 hours ago, Superblue_1986 said:

I agree. I don't think Chilwell is a terrible player. I think he's a pretty good player and he's still very young and should continue to develop and improve. His recent form has been pretty dreadful but has also coincided with Leicester's loss of form and is no different to some of our younger players going through a period of inconsistency this season.

Leicester's loss of form appears to have coincided with Ndidi's injury. No Ndidi, no party. 

[Jase 43,479]

 

[Special Juan 27,440]

Bet he goes to United.

Still can't get my head around that we are 20 days into the window after clambering for the ban to be lifted and still haven't made a move.

[Azul 1,615]

42 minutes ago, Special Juan said:

Bet he goes to United.

Still can't get my head around that we are 20 days into the window after clambering for the ban to be lifted and still haven't made a move.

What baffles me even more is that there are some that believe we don't need anyone and we'll still be able to make top four. 

If anyone geniunely thinks that we'll be able to get top players in the summer without playing in the Champions League next season, then they're deluded. We got Jorginho because of his relationship with Sarri. People cling to Kante but that was a one off, because Kante knew that the team we had at the time was able to win the Premier League.

Has Chelsea become a poor club? Surely we can invest around 50-80m now and 200-250m in the summer? We desperately need a leftback and a centreback, otherwise the club is moving backwards yet again. No CL = no top players, end of.

 

[NikkiCFC 8,061]

The thing is that Cavani wants only Atletico. And they offered him two and a half years contract. Can't see us doing that. Atletico offered 10m, PSG wants 30m.

They will find each other for around 15-20m.

[Special Juan 27,440]

Just now, Azul said:

What baffles me even more is that there are some that believe we don't need anyone and we'll still be able to make top four. 

If anyone geniunely thinks that we'll be able to get top players in the summer without playing in the Champions League next season, then they're deluded. We got Jorginho because of his relationship with Sarri. People cling to Kante but that was a one off, because Kante knew that the team we had at the time was able to win the Premier League.

Has Chelsea become a poor club? Surely we can invest around 50-80m now and 200-250m in the summer? We desperately need a leftback and a centreback, otherwise the club is moving backwarsa yet again. No CL = no top players, end of.

 

We are balancing on a cliff right in terms of top 4 and also potential injury to say Tammy and then we would be fucked.

As each day passes the window is close to closing, whether it be a back up striker for a 6 month period or a big signing something has to give. Sancho, Werner, Chillwell aren't coming this window but like you say, we miss out on top 4, and we could if we do not strengthen now then those players won't be coming in the summer.

[NikkiCFC 8,061]

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'I told him very clearly. I have a very clear idea of where I want to go in my career. I want to do a full season here, yes. 

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[Superblue 6,372]

33 minutes ago, Azul said:

What baffles me even more is that there are some that believe we don't need anyone and we'll still be able to make top four. 

If anyone geniunely thinks that we'll be able to get top players in the summer without playing in the Champions League next season, then they're deluded. We got Jorginho because of his relationship with Sarri. People cling to Kante but that was a one off, because Kante knew that the team we had at the time was able to win the Premier League.

Has Chelsea become a poor club? Surely we can invest around 50-80m now and 200-250m in the summer? We desperately need a leftback and a centreback, otherwise the club is moving backwards yet again. No CL = no top players, end of.

 

I don't think anybody believes that we don't need to strengthen long term, but it's not impossible for us to reach the top 4 this season without strengthening when we've been in the top 4 most of the season so far and nobody beneath us has yet shown to be capable of mounting a run of form like we showed earlier in the season (and add to that United and Spurs have both lost their main attacking player now for a large period of the rest of this season).

Ideally it would be great to get one or two players in to help the charge, but it has to be right. We can go and buy a Zaha or Dembele now and pay big money for them but we will then be stuck with them next season and unable to pursue players who were our first choice targets for those positions. We are not going to spend £80m on Zaha this window and then pursue Sancho for £100 - 120m in the summer. The likes of Zaha and Dembele would more than likely be attainable in the summer regardless of whether we're in the top 4 or not, so if we can't get our first choice targets then we can move on the likes of these players anyway. 

I think a left back could be brought this window because I believe there are better options available than Chilwell, especially value for money, but it seems that he is our first choice.

We're not going to be dropping over £300m across the next two transfer windows unless there was a big sale in the summer to go with Hazard's from last summer. It's nothing to do with us being poor, it's complying with FFP.

[Superblue 6,372]

1 hour ago, Jason said:

Leicester's loss of form appears to have coincided with Ndidi's injury. No Ndidi, no party. 

Definitely a key component in that team. They're defensive record in recent weeks has taken a bit of a hammering too.

But a number of players seem to have lost some form too offensively in recent weeks. Without Vardy firing, they seem to be in a similar position to us wondering where all the goals are going to come from to put teams away.

[Tomo 21,733]

47 minutes ago, Azul said:

 

If anyone geniunely thinks that we'll be able to get top players in the summer without playing in the Champions League next season, then they're deluded. 

Arsenal haven't won the league for 14 years and were on a third year in Europa yet managed to snap up the hottest avalible property in the market last summer. Unless you're seriously implying Arsenal are a bigger attraction in the modern day?

The only players we can't get are the truly elite ones which is the case if we make CL or not.

[NikkiCFC 8,061]

58 minutes ago, Azul said:

 

If anyone geniunely thinks that we'll be able to get top players in the summer without playing in the Champions League next season, then they're deluded. We got Jorginho because of his relationship with Sarri. People cling to Kante but that was a one off, because Kante knew that the team we had at the time was able to win the Premier League. 

 

Kovacic won CL three times in a row and left Real for us without CL footy. Also David Luiz did that twice now. Summer 2016 when he joined us from PSG and last summer when he joined Arsenal. Auba, Pepe, Fekir also did the same... 

[Jase 43,479]

3 hours ago, Jason said:

 

Lampard was asked about Cavani, whether we would move for him after his transfer request and he did not deny any interest. He even praised him. 

[Special Juan 27,440]

1 minute ago, Jason said:

Lampard was asked about Cavani, whether we would move for him after his transfer request and he did not deny any interest. He even praised him. 

Also talked about short term might be the way forward as January is a tough window

[Jase 43,479]

5 minutes ago, Special Juan said:

Also talked about short term might be the way forward as January is a tough window

Getting Cavani, on loan for example, might not be the worst of ideas. 

[Special Juan 27,440]

Just now, Jason said:

Getting Cavani, on loan for example, might not be the worst of ideas. 

Not at all. I said the other day we lack aggression, fight and a horrible bastard up front, he's all of that.

[Pizy 18,432]

Unlike Higuain for example, Cavani has always look super fit. Can't say I've seen him recently, though.

His wages are probably astronomical as well.

[ulsterchelsea 3,221]

15 minutes ago, Jason said:

Lampard was asked about Cavani, whether we would move for him after his transfer request and he did not deny any interest. He even praised him. 

Yep, take cavani all day long. Good player for Tammy to learn from/play with.