Chelsea Transfers

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Shamu off

so no hat trick

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what a fuckup going for felix instead of omorodion. it was obvious even then, let alone now.

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On the bright side, at least our scouts did well and might be right again. Samu and Duran really were not obvious picks last summer 

also there is no guarantee their purple patches will last.

 
needlessly buying Felix and Kelly man and not even getting either samu or Duran… that was simply bad business just to have that pure profit, doing villa/atleti a solid but not even getting a player we could actually use 

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17 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

On the bright side, at least our scouts did well and might be right again. Samu and Duran really were not obvious picks last summer 

also there is no guarantee their purple patches will last.

 
needlessly buying Felix and Kelly man and not even getting either samu or Duran… that was simply bad business just to have that pure profit, doing villa/atleti a solid but not even getting a player we could actually use 

I obviously don't know all the ins and out, but after Fabrizio's tweet earlier today, it leads me to believe Gallagher clearly played a big part in what transpired in the end.

Also, I feel like there has to be more to the board suddenly switching terms up where Samu was concerned (failed medical was supposedly debunked) than we are led to believe. If the main reason behind that was really because Osimhen suddenly became a real possibility, the failure to secure his signing was beyond stupid on their part. We'll know the full effect of all this if any come May.

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28 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

I obviously don't know all the ins and out, but after Fabrizio's tweet earlier today, it leads me to believe Gallagher clearly played a big part in what transpired in the end.

Also, I feel like there has to be more to the board suddenly switching terms up where Samu was concerned (failed medical was supposedly debunked) than we are led to believe. If the main reason behind that was really because Osimhen suddenly became a real possibility, the failure to secure his signing was beyond stupid on their part. We'll know the full effect of all this if any come May.

10 big questions I want answered (about BlueCo)

1. Why was Tuchel REALLY sacked?

2. Why on earth did we buy Badi AND Disasi and pass on so many far better CBs?

3. Why did we drop 75m quid for an already damaged Wes Fofana?

4. What is the REAL story behind the Shamu 'failed medical' (especially if it is debunked like you said)

5. Why the fuck did we drop £88m on meh keepers (unless Penders turns into a monster) and not one of them was named Mamardashvili?

6. Once Shamu fell through, why the fuck did we not just pay the £40m for Duran (and we could have done that before Shamu as well, plus that would have also meant no need to drop almost 20m quid on the pure dice roll teen Omari Kellyman) and instead went all fuckabout with fucking Osimhen?

7. Why the fuck did we buy a 'clearly in decline' Sterling and then double down on the mistake and give him that insane £85m contract?

8. Why the fuck did we drop a potential £89m (if all add-ons are paid out) on Mudryk?

9. What the fuck is going on with the new stadium?

10. Why have we STILL not locked down a main shirt sponsor?

 

I will be super generous and NOT bring up the insane overpays for Enzo and Caicedo, nor the KDH buy (although, even if he comes semi-good, there were 10+ better CMF options out there). I also understand (not agree with in most cases, though) some of the other dodgy buys that we dice-rolled on early on in the Boehly as Sporting Director times.

Also we did try with Sesko (as did almost every big club) and he told everyone to piss off, so no anger there from me at all.

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IF (a big if, granted) Duran and Shamu keep on playing (and even get better) at the level that they are, I can easily see them becoming the 2nd and 3rd best CFs on the planet in a couple years (behind Håland).

Kane will age out (in less than 2 years he will be 33yo)

Mbappe is NOT a CF

Lautaro is off to a meh start  and is not really a 'lead the line' type anyway

I see nothing atm in Osimhen that would place him that high

 

Duran's and Shamu's main competion for 2nd and 3rd best CF will be (IMHO):

 

Isak (IF, a HUGE IF) he stays consistently healthy

Endrick (again, not at all a 'lead the line' type of CF atm)

Gyökeres

Dušan Vlahović (have some real doubts he gets to that level)

maybe, maybe Sesko

maybe, maybe Loïs Openda

 

wild card: Nico

 

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3 hours ago, Vesper said:

10 big questions I want answered (about BlueCo)

1. Why was Tuchel REALLY sacked?

2. Why on earth did we buy Badi AND Disasi and pass on so many far better CBs?

3. Why did we drop 75m quid for an already damaged Wes Fofana?

4. What is the REAL story behind the Shamu 'failed medical' (especially if it is debunked like you said)

5. Why the fuck did we drop £88m on meh keepers (unless Penders turns into a monster) and not one of them was named Mamardashvili?

6. Once Shamu fell through, why the fuck did we not just pay the £40m for Duran (and we could have done that before Shamu as well, plus that would have also meant no need to drop almost 20m quid on the pure dice roll teen Omari Kellyman) and instead went all fuckabout with fucking Osimhen?

7. Why the fuck did we buy a 'clearly in decline' Sterling and then double down on the mistake and give him that insane £85m contract?

8. Why the fuck did we drop a potential £89m (if all add-ons are paid out) on Mudryk?

9. What the fuck is going on with the new stadium?

10. Why have we STILL not locked down a main shirt sponsor?

 

I will be super generous and NOT bring up the insane overpays for Enzo and Caicedo, nor the KDH buy (although, even if he comes semi-good, there were 10+ better CMF options out there). I also understand (not agree with in most cases, though) some of the other dodgy buys that we dice-rolled on early on in the Boehly as Sporting Director times.

Also we did try with Sesko (as did almost every big club) and he told everyone to piss off, so no anger there from me at all.

The shirt sponsor is a weird one.

There are some outlets claiming that Chelsea don't want to commit to a long term sponsor, because the club currently isn't in an elite European competition,. and that makes a big difference in terms of financial incentives from any deal.

Finding a short term sponsor like Infinite Athlete is far more difficult.

I find the whole thing far fetched tbh. Even yoyo clubs like Spurs can attract shirt sponsors worth a damn. 

And it's not like Chelsea doesn't already have a massive fan following.

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4 hours ago, LAM09 said:

 

Also, I feel like there has to be more to the board suddenly switching terms up where Samu was concerned (failed medical was supposedly debunked) than we are led to believe. If the main reason behind that was really because Osimhen suddenly became a real possibility, the failure to secure his signing was beyond stupid on their part. 

What if they backed off after seeing fans reaction? 

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9 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

What if they backed off after seeing fans reaction? 

they do not care

look at some of the other buys so many of us lost our minds over and they did it anyway

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FIFA proposes early transfer window for Club World Cup teams including Manchester City, Chelsea

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5815944/2024/10/03/transfer-window-club-world-cup-teams/

Next summer’s transfer window could open two weeks earlier than usual to allow teams competing in the revamped Club World Cup to sign new players, FIFA has announced.

A FIFA Council meeting on Thursday unanimously approved a proposal to give national associations the option of an “exceptional registration window” from June 1 to June 10, which would close five days before the start of tournament in the United States.

World football’s governing body said it took the measure to “address technicalities and equalise inconsistencies created by differences in registration periods and domestic-season timings” for the 32 competing teams.

If the English Football Association (FA) was to take up this option, the Premier League’s two Club World Cup entrants, Chelsea and Manchester City, would, in theory, be able to strengthen their squads for a tournament that is, strictly speaking, still a part of the current season.

The Athletic has contacted the FA for comment.

If the option was taken up across Europe, the likes of Bayern Munich, Paris Saint-Germain and Real Madrid would also be able to make early signings, which could be tempting in a summer when there are some huge names potentially out of contract. For example, Liverpool trio Trent Alexander-Arnold, Mohamed Salah and Virgil van Dijk, and Tottenham Hotspur captain Son Heung-Min could all be looking for new challenges.

And, in another tweak to usual rules, FIFA will let teams replace any players whose contracts expire during the Club World Cup by opening a “restricted in-competition” window from 27 June to 3 July.

This is meant to address the situation that Manchester City may face with Kevin De Bruyne, or Bayern with Alphonso Davies or Joshua Kimmich, all of whom have contracts that currently expire at the end of June, halfway through the tournament.

However, what is more likely, should any of those players, or players in a similar position, not sign new deals between now and June, is that they will agree to two-week extensions to cover the tournament’s duration.

“The FIFA Club World Cup 2025 will kick off a new era for club football across the world, with the top teams competing to be crowned the official FIFA club world champions,” said FIFA president Gianni Infantino.

“These regulations will ensure that the best possible conditions are in place in order for all 32 participating clubs and the best players in the world to shine at the highest level.”

In recent seasons, the summer transfer window in Europe has opened in mid-June but FIFA did amend the rules in the summer of 2020 when the COVID-19 pandemic extended the extended season into August.

FIFA this week confirmed the 12 stadiums that will stage the inaugural Club World Cup.

2025 Club World Cup stadiums: Full list

• MetLife Stadium (East Rutherford, N.J.)*
• Meredes-Benz Stadium (Atlanta)
• Bank of America Stadium (Charlotte)
• TQL Stadium (Cincinnati)
• Rose Bowl Stadium (Los Angeles)
• Hard Rock Stadium (Miami)
• GEODIS Park (Nashville)
• Camping World Stadium (Orlando)
• Inter&Co Stadium (Orlando)
• Lincoln Financial Field (Philadelphia)
• Lumen Field (Seattle)
• Audi Field (Washington, D.C.)

*denotes 2026 World Cup final venue

GO DEEPER

The Club World Cup Cup has venues at last - but so many questions still remain

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'Chelsea thought I was too expensive four months ago - now I'm worth twice as much'
Chelsea's summer transfer mishap could end up costing them millions.

https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1956976/Chelsea-jhon-duran-aston-villa

 

Chelsea pondered signing Jhon Duran during the summer and they may pay the price for pulling the plug on a £40million move.

The Aston Villa striker has come racing out of the blocks this season and his rapidly-rising stock received another boost on Wednesday night, when his audacious finish earned the West Midlands side a Champions League victory over Bayern Munich.

Not even Erling Haaland can match Duran's Premier League strike rate of a goal every 39 minutes so far this season. And the Manchester City striker also comes out second best when pitted against the Colombian's 40-per-cent conversion rate - which is particularly astonishing given the variety of goals the Villa man scores, such as his long-distance screamer against Everton last month.

Despite his heroics in front of goal, Duran is still playing second fiddle to Ollie Watkins at Villa Park. But he may not be for long, with top clubs sure to come sniffing around in January.

All of them will be quoted top dollar by Villa, who would turn a monster profit on the £18m they paid to Chicago Fire almost two years ago. In fact, Duran has reportedly been slapped with an £80m price tag ahead of the winter window.

That eye-watering sum would be painful for Chelsea to cough up if they reignite their interest, having passed up the opportunity to sign Duran for half that during the summer.

The saga reached its peak in June, when the Blues were given permission to discuss personal terms with the 20-year-old after an extensive period of scouting. Villa were believed to be willing to sell in order to boost their profit and sustainability position but the switch did not progress beyond that point.

Strong interest from West Ham also amounted to nothing, and Villa will now be thanking their lucky stars. There were murmurings about attitude problems last season but Villa captain John McGinn claims the youngster has got his act together, and it is paying dividends on the pitch.

"I was quite hard on him last season," said the Scotsman in August. "Just about his attitude and how he can improve that, but in all fairness I’ve been pleasantly surprised. I think the coaching staff and players have been pleasantly surprised too about how he has handled it all.

"He has all the attributes to be a world-class striker and we’re seeing glimpses of it now. He doesn’t seem to have let anything in the summer affect him. Maybe the penny has dropped for him. The way he is around people, around the staff - it has improved a lot and it’s great to see."

 

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remember this yoiung Gker's name

Kauã Santos

he was superb last night for Eintracht

https://hofoo22.fooroomtyv.com/embed/1aAb6WuPPONiN

 

[LAM09 7,091]

12 hours ago, Vesper said:

10 big questions I want answered (about BlueCo)

1. Why was Tuchel REALLY sacked?

2. Why on earth did we buy Badi AND Disasi and pass on so many far better CBs?

3. Why did we drop 75m quid for an already damaged Wes Fofana?

4. What is the REAL story behind the Shamu 'failed medical' (especially if it is debunked like you said)

5. Why the fuck did we drop £88m on meh keepers (unless Penders turns into a monster) and not one of them was named Mamardashvili?

6. Once Shamu fell through, why the fuck did we not just pay the £40m for Duran (and we could have done that before Shamu as well, plus that would have also meant no need to drop almost 20m quid on the pure dice roll teen Omari Kellyman) and instead went all fuckabout with fucking Osimhen?

7. Why the fuck did we buy a 'clearly in decline' Sterling and then double down on the mistake and give him that insane £85m contract?

8. Why the fuck did we drop a potential £89m (if all add-ons are paid out) on Mudryk?

9. What the fuck is going on with the new stadium?

10. Why have we STILL not locked down a main shirt sponsor?

 

I will be super generous and NOT bring up the insane overpays for Enzo and Caicedo, nor the KDH buy (although, even if he comes semi-good, there were 10+ better CMF options out there). I also understand (not agree with in most cases, though) some of the other dodgy buys that we dice-rolled on early on in the Boehly as Sporting Director times.

Also we did try with Sesko (as did almost every big club) and he told everyone to piss off, so no anger there from me at all.

There have been so many weird decisions made since they took control, and new reports indicate that Boehly and Eghbali aren't always on the same page.

The fact that we're dealing with the same issue with a shirt sponsor for the second season and losing a significant amount of money in the interim is really alarming. Surely, there are plenty of possible companies who would bite at the chance, which raises even more concerns about what is going on behind the scenes.

8 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

What if they backed off after seeing fans reaction? 

They didn't back out of the deal, they just wanted half of Samu's player rights. If he agreed, we wouldn't be having this conversation now.

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Fabrizio Romano confirms Chelsea plan to sell £50m star, as January transfer to unbeaten giant awaits

https://www.teamtalk.com/Chelsea/fabrizio-romano-confirms-Chelsea-plan-sell-50m-star-january-transfer-atletico-madrid-awaits

Chelsea plan to offload left-back Ben Chilwell at the earliest possible opportunity and an unbeaten European giant are reportedly showing ‘strong interest’ in making a move.

Chilwell does not feature in Enzo Maresca’s plans, with Marc Cucurella first choice and ably backed up by summer signing Renato Veiga.

According to transfer guru Fabrizio Romano, Chelsea’s plan is to sell Chilwell in the January window.

Romano wrote on X: “The plan remains to part ways in January with Chilwell expected to be one of the players set to leave Chelsea.”

The 27-year-old cost roughly £50m when bought from Leicester City back in 2020. The Blues will struggle to recoup a fee close to that sum, though they do reportedly have a suitor ready to splash the cash.

Reports claim Diego Simeone’s Atletico Madrid are showing ‘strong interest’ in Chilwell and a mid-season transfer is being targeted.

Atletico have started the new campaign in fine fashion and following Angel Correa’s last-gasp equaliser against Real Madrid last time out, they’re one of just two unbeaten sides in LaLiga after eight games (four wins, four draws). The other is Real Madrid (five wins, three draws).

Chilwell has Premier League interest too

Chelsea sought to offload Chilwell over the summer, with the defender part of the so-called ‘bomb squad’ of stars Maresca had no intention of using.

Chilwell has featured just once this season on the back of failing to secure a transfer away. His only outing came in the EFL Cup thrashing of League Two side Barrow.

In the event Chilwell were to join Atletico Madrid he’d link up with former Blues teammate Conor Gallagher.

The all-action midfielder signed to the tune of £34m and has started Atletico’s last five matches in LaLiga, scoring two goals during that span.

Chilwell may yet have options to remain in England, with the Sun detailing Crystal Palace and Ipswich Town’s interest in mid-September.

Both Premier League sides are said to be ‘tracking’ Chilwell, though given his lack of game-time there hasn’t been a great deal to observe of late.

Chelsea quoted new Duran fee / Ipswich alternative eyed

In other news, Chelsea are still chasing Brazilian wonderkid Joao Pedro Chermont despite seeing a bid rejected.

The Santos sensation, 18, is a right-back by trade and his contract contains a hefty €70m (£58.8m / $77.2m) release clause.

Elsewhere, TEAMtalk can confirm Chelsea also retain hope of prising Jhon Duran out of Aston Villa.

The Blues tried and failed to sign the Colombian hotshot last summer, though in lieu of his spectacular form this term, Villa are now demanding upwards of £80m.

Finally, we can exclusively reveal the Blues are weighing up a swoop for former Manchester City striker, Liam Delap.

The 21-year-old completed a £20m move to Ipswich Town in July and has scored three goals in six Premier League matches for Kieran McKenna’s side so far.

Chilwell can follow in Lineker, McMananan, Beckham footsteps

A move to Atletico Madrid would see Chilwell reunite with England teammate Conor Gallagher, who left Chelsea and joined Diego Simeone’s side in a £34million deal in the summer transfer window.

Kieran Trippier is the only other Englishman to have played for Atletico and he helped the club win the LaLiga title in the 2020/21 season.

Overall, 23 English footballers have played for a club in La Liga and Chilwell could be about to follow in the footsteps of some iconic figures.

The likes of Laurie Cunningham, Gary Lineker, Steve McManaman, David Beckham and Jude Bellingham have all won trophies in Spain.

But not every Englishman has been a success in La Liga as Jonathan Woodgate, Jermaine Pennant, Stan Collymore and Peter Barnes all endured difficult stints in Spain.

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Ben Chilwell will move in January but Josh Acheampong is staying at Chelsea

https://thedailybriefing.io/i/149749832/ben-chilwell-will-move-in-january-but-josh-acheampong-is-staying-at-Chelsea

It's too early to comment on where Ben Chilwell will end up next. This is gonna be a topic for December because now it's still quiet.

Chilwell is training at the best level possible to help Chelsea and to be as professional as usual. There are no contacts ongoing with any club yet, but the plan is for Chelsea to sell/offload Chilwell in January, that’s true.

Staying with the Blues, there's no "situation" at all with Josh Acheampong.

He's a Chelsea player, considered part of the project and an important talent, and he’s also really appreciated by Enzo Maresca and his staff.

No story, no talks with Newcastle or any other club, nothing.

Acheampong is one of the players trusted by Chelsea and there are no movements ongoing.

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Nothing in Frenkie de Jong to United/Chelsea rumours

https://thedailybriefing.io/i/149749832/nothing-in-frenkie-de-jong-to-unitedchelsea-rumours

 

 

There are no movements expected in January for Frenkie de Jong despite contractual rumours in the Spanish media, it's completely quiet. There's nothing in it.

He's still very happy at Barcelona and fully focused on recovering his best form after the injury.

All the rest - Chelsea, Man United - is just speculation, nothing else. I repeat, no transfer movements around de Jong.

 

 

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Gleison Bremer is out for the season but Juve won’t replace him until January

https://thedailybriefing.io/i/149749832/gleison-bremer-is-out-for-the-season-but-juve-wont-replace-him-until-january

It's a sad day for Juventus.

Although it was an amazing night for them in the Champions League against Leipzig, there was a very serious injury to Gleison Bremer.

A torn ACL and meniscus means that the season is over for a fantastic player.

He will be back stronger I'm sure, but for Juventus it means some kind of emergency option for the centre-back position.

Obviously they have Gati and Kalulu and they can maybe adapt Danilo, but they need one more centre-back.

There were rumours about Sergio Ramos, because he’s probably the biggest name on the free agents market available right now.

What I can tell you is that the current position of Juventus is to not go and sign any centre-backs.

No contacts are taking place yet, Juventus will take their time, it happened not even 20 hours ago... no rush, no panic.

So, despite the stories surrounding Ramos and any other centre-backs, Juventus will consider entering the market in January but not before.

They will discuss options with Motta and pick the best one.